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The Amazing Digital Circus General Discussion Thread [Spoilers]
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LittleGuy99
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Bubble profile when
Wait, Kinger doesn't have a profile yet either?
Wait, Kinger doesn't have a profile yet either?
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yeaaaaaaah
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Mostly reality warping for every member of the circus (but if you want, you can give it the weakness to almost everyone that they need to concentrate more)
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Isn't Caine low multi by definition?
1. The circus relies on his code to stay together, so after his death, it all gets crumbled into just a husk with the other worlds probably being gone
2. The adventure worlds don't go on the same time exactly, some are day while others are night, and we know that Caine implemented a day/night cycle in the Circus, so that means that all these worlds are low 2-C constructs
3. Everything in the Circus is code, including his body, the same code that can hold dozens of worlds together, and create multiple in rapid succession
4. He's never really been challenged in any capacity, and Bubble just has some immortality, regen, and duplication stuff
5. The only way to do anything to him by the characters POV is to DIRECTLY ALTER HIS CODE, which would mean accessing the real world to some extent, Kinger even mentions that they can manifest like Caine but just on a smaller scale with more difficulty
Long story short, doesn't Caine have more than enough justification to be low multi all around by this point? (also an "up to 2-C via computer" Kinger is really funny)
1. The circus relies on his code to stay together, so after his death, it all gets crumbled into just a husk with the other worlds probably being gone
2. The adventure worlds don't go on the same time exactly, some are day while others are night, and we know that Caine implemented a day/night cycle in the Circus, so that means that all these worlds are low 2-C constructs
3. Everything in the Circus is code, including his body, the same code that can hold dozens of worlds together, and create multiple in rapid succession
4. He's never really been challenged in any capacity, and Bubble just has some immortality, regen, and duplication stuff
5. The only way to do anything to him by the characters POV is to DIRECTLY ALTER HIS CODE, which would mean accessing the real world to some extent, Kinger even mentions that they can manifest like Caine but just on a smaller scale with more difficulty
Long story short, doesn't Caine have more than enough justification to be low multi all around by this point? (also an "up to 2-C via computer" Kinger is really funny)
Randomuser3412
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They need to be universal in size to be low 2-C
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I mean you can see stars in the background of Episode 4, and Caine pretty much has almost done some wacky sutff in general, like alter the entire art style, so there aren't really hard rules or limitations for this world (there is also the Zooble Box which has a infinite amount of parts)
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not really, low 2-C is when you go beyond the material and are talking about time, so the world could be a cubic meter, its the creation of new time that gets scaled, and his worlds are accepted as multi-solar, so they aren't anything to scoff at
Randomuser3412
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No. It does have to be universal in size to count as low 2-C, no matter how stupid it sounds. (Also, a day/night cycle does not technically imply a 4th dimension anyway)
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The things that really made me bring this up are mainly that:
1. Caine is literally the God tier and no one else (except for mebe Kinger with the computer) scales, so no worries there
and 2. All the aforementioned was committed with no actual anti-feats to downplay it
1. Caine is literally the God tier and no one else (except for mebe Kinger with the computer) scales, so no worries there
and 2. All the aforementioned was committed with no actual anti-feats to downplay it
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"An example of this is 4-dimensional spacetime continuums of universal size, but this can be generalized to any 4-dimensional structure of a similar scope."
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I would think that stary skies would give benefit of the doubt, and their currently accepted size isn't really low enough to say no (at least, I think so)
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Yeah, this backs up my point of it saying it needs to be a similar scope (universal in size or bigger). And about what I was saying, a day night cycle does not mean there has to be a 4th dimension. Typically, low 2-C is only applied when there's stated to be a 4th, temporal dimension, which is why not all universe destruction feats are low 2-C.
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I'll find something later then, because it sounds like thats the only missing piece
Though, I'd argue that if these are all on the same plane/treated as one connected place, Caine should still have all round 3-C scaling if not higher for the amount of 4-A constructs that were destroyed, Im actually gonna see a low ball by multiplying the value linked by the number of orbs I can see
The rest of my logic doesn't seem to fall short, at worst Cain just scales fully to 4-A
Randomuser3412
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Caine probably couldn't be scaled to the whole circus through stabilization because of requirement 2: "Prove that the stabilized structure is being directly sustained by the power of the character and not from the character's abilities, life force, existence, magical properties, or any unknown connection that is independent of their statistics." right?
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He IS the code, he isnt just powerful, he IS his own power given form, and he IS the circus itself
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Well... I don't think any of that's explicitly said or even implied (other than him being code, but even the humans and NPCs are)
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The opening for episode 8 shows him making the circus itself, and the end shows the whole place is destroyed because of him no longer existing, he's a load bearing file, kinda like that one Dragon Ball game where Goku being deleted caused the whole game to crash, except literally this time
Randomuser3412
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Yes, he did make the circus (but he isn't THE circus itself, he just made the thing), but I fear that all this latest episode proves is that it was also being sustained in some, non-specific way by him. Maybe I could see a "possibly" for him scaling to it, though.
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Im still curious, how do I convert foe into higher units, I can't find any good calculators and doing it manually isn't working, but I do know Caine would at least be multi-galaxy
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Have been thinking, do we have enough abilities to make a "Digital Circus Resident" Physiology page for them?
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then it should be reverted till a thread is made, tis are the rules
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Looking back at this statement... makes me feel sad for Caine all the more, like... he never had a chance, he quite literally is unable to understand the humans because he just doesn't have same amount of feelings they have, heck, he might just... not be able to FEEL empathy to begin with
If only he would have directly talked to them for them to explain it could have been resolved... but he didn't
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Kinger doesn't have a profile yet?
We also list Bubble, Gloink Queen and Gummigo on the verse page yet they all don't have a page?
We also list Bubble, Gloink Queen and Gummigo on the verse page yet they all don't have a page?
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I didn't like Caine much at first, mainly because he was so weird, but now he's one of my favorite characters in Verse. Anyways, why he didn't Information Type 2?
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Having a different day and night cycle doesn't mean having a different timeline; other planets have different day and night cycles than Earth.
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What're you referring to
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I mean, if being turned into an abstraction considered as a circus mechanism the same way the slurs filter is (so both dependant to Caine existance), technically all of them should possibly be back to normal at least.
Also considering the floor was fully deconstructed as Kinger computer has fallen into the void, so probably the same thing happened for the abstractions.
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Some people in this thread said that Cain should be 2C because the worlds he creates have different day and night cycles.
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Randomuser3412
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Fully 4-A, maybe. But 4-A creation (or maybe higher) is pretty blatant.
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Caine is MFTL+ no way (TADC)
After reading this blog: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Psychomaster35/The_Amazing_Digital_Circus:_Tour_Into_The_Void I genuinely do not understand why this feat is being used to justify MFTL+ speed. The entire calculation seems to assume that the Void is extremely far away from the...
Sorry but I need input, So please, those who are interested
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