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Bill Cipher NEP1 CRT

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Even though Bill already has NEP3, but anyways...

After Bill Cipher was erased from Stanley's mind, he still "existed" in some way; he could still think, perform actions like conversing and shaking hands with the Axolotl, and even create "The Book Of Bill".

And as stated on the Nonexistence Physiology page:

"Examples of possible portrayals include, but are not limited to, existing in a state of being prior to being born in any form or as a character who has been a victim of Existence Erasure, yet can still act and think in some way."

That actually fits Bill Cipher's situation after his existence was erased. Although he also suffers from the limitation: "As the user no longer exists, they may be unable to interact with reality"
It's pretty clear when he's lost all his power and needs our help to get him back.

Aspects: The aspects should same with his NEP3.

Conclusion:

• Nonexistent Physiology (Nature Type 1, Aspect Types 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 [Energy and Idea]; After being erased from Stanley's mind, he still "existed" in some way; he could still think, perform actions like conversing and shaking hands with the Axolotl, and even create "The Book Of Bill". With the Mindscape also not really existing while retaining both the soul and mind, and the reality of Multiverse being made of code which builds up everything in existence.)

The aspect concept has been agreed upon in this CRT.

• Additionally, adjust regeneration from High-Mid to Low-High in Mindscape form because he has transformed into liquid form and is still able to regenerate.
 
Although I think NEP1 is not applicable in combat, it can at best only result is incon in a matchup.
 
This looks fine but i will wait for Strym cause he want to say something, from his comment
 
After re-reading the CRT, and then rechecking some pages of the BoB, I realized that I was having a mandela effect, and him being in his "half-dead" state as opposed to full erasure was mainly from the reader (aka you) having a hold on the Book of Bill, thus allowing him to partially come back until he tried to trick you in making a deal with him irl.

So yeah, nothing is wrong here and this CRT is correct. However I wonder...
Vietthai96 said:
This looks fine but i will wait for Strym cause he want to say something, from his comment
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Given that Bill is currenltly NEP 3 off this:
Would this state be 1 layer of NEP 1? He's technically nonexistent due to his Mindscape nature, but always in a state where he's both existent and not (for the whole "everything I am I am also not", GF's Schrodinger cat is just weird), but given he's hard deleted here, would he be "more nonexistent" compared to his standard self?
 
StrymULTRA said:
Would this state be 1 layer of NEP 1? He's technically nonexistent due to his Mindscape nature, but always in a state where he's both existent and not (for the whole "everything I am I am also not", GF's Schrodinger cat is just weird), but given he's hard deleted here, would he be "more nonexistent" compared to his standard self?
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No, being hard to delete isn't implies layer, either there is limitation to the suppose deletion or some form of resistance

Though anyway from what i see, Bill NEP1 is only after dude get erased so probably should note about it, or having a tabber/key for post erasure like Monika
 
I just realized that Bill also mentioned that the time (past-present-future) in Gravity Fall is made from code. Should this be added to aspect 5 [time]?

(And I'm not entirely sure if we should add aspect spatial, since data also creates reality. But I guess I'll tell StrymULTRA later, and now just complete this CRT.)
 
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Thanganimator said:
I just realized that Bill also mentioned that the time (past-present-future) in Gravity Fall is made from code. Should this be added to aspect 5 [time]?

(And I'm not entirely sure if we should add aspect spatial, since data also creates reality. But I guess I'll tell StrymULTRA later, and now just complete this CRT.)
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This is waaay too controversial to be a random addition like that lol.
Vietthai96 said:
No, being hard to delete isn't implies layer, either there is limitation to the suppose deletion or some form of resistance
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...this isn't what I said. I said that he already was non-existent, and that he then got deleted harder.
 
TheOrangeGuy09 said:
The point is that NEP 1 argument, if correct, applies only to his state after dying and being revived by Axolotl, not at the time of series, and his current base key only includes the latter.
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Huh... aren't we just going to create more keys?
 
Vietthai96 said:
That will not add NEP layer cause it was a different nature type of NEP, he was NEP3, now he get NEP1 due to getting deleted.
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I do not agree with this way of thinking.

NEP 3 works as if one is technically existent, but behaves as non-existent being when interacted with, meaning that if a normal EE attacks him, he'd be unaffected due to him being considered non-existent, and be able to switch back to existence.

A higher NEP would be required due to it being beyond the normal NEP Bill both is and is not in.
 
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