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Jin Mori vs Pochita (4-0-0)

Yeah this would probably need to be like, 6 megaton vs 16 megaton keys to not be a complete stomp
 
Mori Jin unfathomably outskills in everywhich direction in which most of Pochita's options are literally unable to do anything.
Chains? Class Y LS lmao.
H2H? Shitslammed, ragdolled, and probably accidentally torn to pieces.
Pochita's only wincon is his regen and even then, nothing is stopping Mori from.. well..

Going with Mori, low-mid diff.
 
Also, before you guys say that he can throw his heart... well being yeeted full force with class Y LS would literally result in you probably being outside of the visible solar system at like mach chicken or maybe even more than that. And thats a lowball.
 
Mori Jin unfathomably outskills in everywhich direction in which most of Pochita's options are literally unable to do anything.
Chains? Class Y LS lmao.
H2H? Shitslammed, ragdolled, and probably accidentally torn to pieces.
Pochita's only wincon is his regen and even then, nothing is stopping Mori from.. well..

Going with Mori, low-mid diff.

dawg ts just sounds like a stomp tbh.

like Regen wouldn't even help
 
dawg ts just sounds like a stomp tbh.

like Regen wouldn't even help
Honestly I'm a little worried about that too ngl. But Pochita did win against Garou who also steamrolled him in skill (and while HH Garou is unfathomably less skilled than this Dan key, it kinda stops being a difference after a certain level).

And Pochita does start with a decent enough stat advantage plus some solid abilities. So personally I'm not 100% sure whether it is or isn't a stomp
 
Honestly I'm a little worried about that too ngl. But Pochita did win against Garou who also steamrolled him in skill
difference between Garou and Mori, is that HH Garou doesn't have a massively bullshit LS Advantage
And Pochita does start with a decent enough stat advantage plus some solid abilities.
meh, the AP could only do much, when your opponent Massively Outskills you in combat and LS Diffs you
 
difference between Garou and Mori, is that HH Garou doesn't have a massively bullshit LS Advantage

meh, the AP could only do much, when your opponent Massively Outskills you in combat and LS Diffs you
Mori isn't really a LS spammer. He's primarily a user of an enhanced taekwondo which centers more around strikes and kicks. He'll only use LS to crush or BFR people if he deems it necessary to bypass their regeneration or other abilities.

So it's still a big advantage ofc, but it's not like Mori dodges and insta-yeets Pochita to space or something.
How is bro High 7-C and yet Class Z?
It's a long story ngl
 
I'm curious
So Mori was previously actually a 3C possibly 3B God that wielded a staff heavier than the planet mars.
However he got depowered and reverted to an unknown level where he can still withstand the weight of his staff but doesn't scale to any of his past feats. And the series introduces the concept of controlling your energy to minimize your DC but maximize your AP, which means he doesn't get high level destruction feats anymore making the highest fear he scales to kinda low.

Frankly I'll probably get him upgraded somewhere around 6B-6A later on but the problem is he usually lowers the weight of his staff to not seem super suspicious, which makes using it for calcs a pretty difficult.
 
So Mori was previously actually a 3C possibly 3B God that wielded a staff heavier than the planet mars.
However he got depowered and reverted to an unknown level where he can still withstand the weight of his staff but doesn't scale to any of his past feats. And the series introduces the concept of controlling your energy to minimize your DC but maximize your AP, which means he doesn't get high level destruction feats anymore making the highest fear he scales to kinda low.

Frankly I'll probably get him upgraded somewhere around 6B-6A later on but the problem is he usually lowers the weight of his staff to not seem super suspicious, which makes using it for calcs a pretty difficult.
Yeah, I was gonna say him even moving with the staff is an AP feat because it'd be KE (and GPE).
 
I mean are there any times where you know he wasn't holding the weight back and moved with it?
Not confirmed. The commissioner even goes out to say that even a reinforced arena made for superhuman fighters can't take the weight while Mori used to run around regularass buildings and whatnot so I'd even say it's implied he was lowering the mass basically every time we've seen him.
 
Not confirmed. The commissioner even goes out to say that even a reinforced arena made for superhuman fighters can't take the weight while Mori used to run around regularass buildings and whatnot so I'd even say it's implied he was lowering the mass basically every time we've seen him.
If he never is holding the full mass of it, then why does he have Class Z to begin with? Am I missing smth?
 
If he never is holding the full mass of it, then why does he have Class Z to begin with? Am I missing smth?
The rating itself is longer on the wiki than me tbh but I assume it's because of how Yeoui works.
You need to have enough power to manipulate it and it's mass.
 
The rating itself is longer on the wiki than me tbh but I assume it's because of how Yeoui works.
You need to have enough power to manipulate it and it's mass.
weird. maybe it just means they need the potency of some hax or ability to control its weight. But if it specifically means LS then I'd just say bare minimum calc it as if he can support its weight while standing on the ground. GPE.
 
weird. maybe it just means they need the potency of some hax or ability to control its weight. But if it specifically means LS then I'd just say bare minimum calc it as if he can support its weight while standing on the ground. GPE.
Maybe, maybe not.
Overall this key will definitely undergo changes at some point but I'm honestly too busy with fixing other keys while also making new profile sandboxes because honestly a lot of the current profiles are just ass.
 
Any chance there will be a potential upgrade for Mori in AP?

Class Z LS translate to AP? (any chance ;-;?)
 
The feats can't be that hard to calc...
Soooo here's the thing. This profile covers Mori after he gets depowered by the end of part 6 and his body remains damaged. Meaning he lacks power and his body can't properly withstand his power (he compares it to a shitty car with a god tier engine - the rest of the car can't keep up with its own engine).
As a result basically the entire part 6 Mori spends by trying to maximize his efficiency. He's been doing this in the earlier parts too but here it goes from a side effect of him just improving to being literally the primary source of his improvement.

The manhwa uses this to canonize the concept that reducing your DC by concentrating your energy improves your AP. It unironically becomes an in-universe flex when your attacks DON'T cause destruction.

Basically Mori is actively DC-minimizing on purpose and the stronger he gets the less destruction he causes. This makes it so there's very little actual feats to calculate and even the KE ones using Yeoui would break KE rules (the DC contradicting the calculated results) on top of Mori canonically lowering Yeouis mass by an unknown amount.
Well I don't see how that'd be hard either tbf
To put it simply, Mori in this key is a powerscalers worst nightmare as he canonically avoids giving us anything calc-able
 
Basically Mori is actively DC-minimizing on purpose and the stronger he gets the less destruction he causes. This makes it so there's very little actual feats to calculate and even the KE ones using Yeoui would break KE rules (the DC contradicting the calculated results) on top of Mori canonically lowering Yeouis mass by an unknown amount.
KE isn't automatically disqualified due to lack of destruction. Context matters. For starters, if KE is explicitly mentioned it's usable. But in this case the damage they caused is intentionally minimized, so imo lack of destruction isn't a detractor. You should still be able to use it. Or at the very least GPE from merely holding it. Since most of the time GPE is used for giant characters who don't cause Tier 7 destruction despite having Tier 7 GPE.
 
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