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Now i want him/her/them to keep going
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UNDERTALE/DELTARUNE [shiny new] DISCUSSION THEAD
- Thread starter ZillertheBucko
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You can wank AP and speed all you want I don’t care (I mean I do, it’s all getting axed), but you NEVER fake LS.
LS is sacred…..
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I was tood that i could probably try to calculate the LS for that feat, so I just did it. Tomorrow I'll correct various thing about thd calc (and ask a cgm for some questions i have)
Anyway, I'm going to sleep now, so enjoy the class t calc before I delete it.
Oh, and any suggestions for improving the calc will be appreciated.
Anyway, I'm going to sleep now, so enjoy the class t calc before I delete it.
Oh, and any suggestions for improving the calc will be appreciated.
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Stop downplaying pluey he obviously has multi stellar LS
SnakesCity
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You know damn well LS is not sacred on this site be so fr
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Pardon the foolish question, please, but what is/are the feat(s) being used as the basis for Lifting Strength there?
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Very good question.
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I wasn't trying to call out your calc (Even if it might have some concerns about it as expressed by other users.), I genuinely didn't know what the basis for the LS calc was, flawed or otherwise & was asking....
Ah well.
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A little bit of me asking around and being told that I possibly could calculate LS, and that I just saw Mettaton's calc where he moved his legs (i think it was agreed to be removed In the CGT)
EnderLord8
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Has anyone ever tried to calculate Omega Flowey's attacks in battle?
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Qurbonboev
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Considering how fast(no) debunks are on this site(not pointing at particular individual), it would probably came after Deltarune is already finished.
Btw, what exactly are your problems with main calcs of the verse?(I know some faulty calcs that are currently on the verse page, but none of them are pillars for scaling)
Qurbonboev
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I wouldn’t be so sure…maybe after Chapter 5 but realistically I don’t see it dropping after 6.
Everything
Btw figured I should say this in case yall get the wrong impression: I love Undertale and Deltarune, just really good games and I vibe with them a ton. I ain’t doing anything out of spite, merely to fix some issues I see (lowkey I wouldn’t do anything if it was only a lil wanky but yall got some biblical greed on some of this stuff lmao).
Qurbonboev
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Bruh, I was joking. I didn't expect you to unironically drop "in best case after chapter 5"(though it should have expected, you probably got many verses to upgrade, overhaul, debunk).
Before chapters 3-4 we had only 1 9-A feat for most of the verse. Chapters 3-4 had serious escalation with power levels(both narratively and calc wise). And I would expect from chapter 5 to continue the trend. So debunking feats from earlier chapters prolly wouldn't change power levels
Can you talk in DMs or Discord? I was already planning to get rid of faulty(or irrelevant for now) calcs. It would be geniunely faster
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Lowkey true tbh
Perhaps, but perhaps not. The revisions I've got in mind have an, uh, "ripple effect", we'll call it, that might make future chapters not really matter all that much unless big things change plot wise.
'Fraid I can't do that. This is a tight lipped operation, and it ain't just me working on it, so I doubt they'd appreciate me leaking args.
Qurbonboev
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I thought about this when I sent it LMAO, that's fair.
For Undertale, Rod kinda said all that's needed to say, especially the Mettaton legs that shouldn't even BE a feat in the first place.
Deltarune I could write a decent list but I'm also lazy so like
maybe I will, maybe I won't.
Qurbonboev
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Check here
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I mean, it could be argued that the Elements (which all Darkners possess) could be UES.
Qurbonboev
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Elements are just elemental alignments of certain darkners. UES is totally different thing
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Hey man, friend, buddy, pal. You know that just popping out of nowhere to repeatedly give in basic intimidation tactics like "I'll downgrade y'all verse in the future but won't tell HOW or WHY" is borderline instigation, and thus a rule violation, right? You've been doing this for a while in UTDR threads, and now you're doing it in the Main Discussion Thread because? Do you want a certain reaction from us or what?
Just drop this shit because trying to make up drama like this is reportable, ya know.
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Imma be fr, why do we even bother to calc stuff from a Tier 1 being anyways.
SnakesCity
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Hmmmmmmm i have a sneaking suspicious i know who some of the other people are.
Eden_Warlock99
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Didnt Chariot do this with Demon Slayer?
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Yeah LMFAO. Atp I just think people want to annoy others for pointless self-entertainment.
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I don't really see any rule violation here, especially after what happened with Chariot a few months back. Regardless, it was never my intention to intimidate anyone (mostly just small talk from my POV), and personally I never got the vibe anyone was intimidated considering me and Qur were having a pretty cordial conversation about it. But, if it came off that way, my bad ig, I won't mention it anymore.
Though, I will say, I was planning on detailing a few of the calcs that I had issues with as he requested outside of the downgrade. Might still do it tbh, if nothing else out of respect for him.
Qurbonboev
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You can do it here
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I know the standards a bit ill defined at the moment, but you shouldn't get anything from a jump that does visibly zero damage to the floor their on when it ought to absolutely destroy everything around it. Like, the floor is visibly made of wood, and jump worth nearly half a kiloton of TNT that isn't even denting a single board probably aint worth half a kiloton.
Aaaaaanndddd....that's it (
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Are we using the AoE fallacy in my Deltarune unironically?
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If you're trying to get KE from the feat uh, yeah, the damage needs to be comparable to the value gotten. Given that the damage here is exactly, let me check my notes here....zero, it's not valid. There is no AP or LS to be derived.
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Eden_Warlock99
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Something something AOE Fallacy Fallacy™
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But there's no damage because... he didn't strike anything in the air. What is this.
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He….jumped. Off the ground. With his feet. That’s what this is.
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Yeah, that's for the jump, not the handclap
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Yeah, I’m targeting the jump, hence why I said I could be anal but I want more opinions on the clap with the big crossed out text in parenthesis. As in, I’m not going to touch it for now.Yeah, that's for the jump, not the handclap
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