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UNDERTALE/DELTARUNE [shiny new] DISCUSSION THEAD



The chapter will probably be out by the next six months based on 3/4 dev updates, especially considering it’s only one chapter this time and they’re not working around the Switch 2’s release.
 

Preliminary bugtesting on PC being done. (Preliminary implies it JUST started.)
First draft of the Japanese translation will be received next week.... (So Sunday February 15th at the earliest, depending on your definition of "week".)
Heavy bugtesting across every console will happen when the Japanese translation is done. When it's done.
ARGH.
Shit is probably mad funny,if only i could see images
"We'll receive the first draft of the Japanese translation of Chapter 5 next week!

Meanwhile, we've been polishing the game and doing some preliminary internal bugtesting on PC. Heavy bugtesting across every console will happen when the Japanese translation is done."
 


The chapter will probably be out by the next six months based on 3/4 dev updates, especially considering it’s only one chapter this time and they’re not working around the Switch 2’s release.

Is it being too optimistic to assume the chapters won't take as long since Chapter 3 experienced several partial remakes?
Plus, Chapter 5 is a free update, 3 & 4 were the first paid release, so the 6 month wait may have been because of the Switch release, as a form of marketing, & Toby's been quite reserved about showing us anything.
Half the chapters, & optimistically, they won't do as much as remaking.... Surely it'll take like, 3 months, not 6, right?

On the other hand, considering the above, will Chapter 5 even get a trailer?
 
These 2 set of calcs got accepted

Lanino and Elnina temperature feats: 16.35 MegaJoule to 0,012628775 Tons of TNT -Lanino- 0,005581767 Tons to 0,017371152 Tons (A 3.22986573x and 3.11212417x)
Another 8-A Feat and Class M: 127,72003207 tons / 37136.6033765 tons (Class M)
Tenna's Weather Report: goes from 7.28 Tons of TNT to 32.793657877579 Kilotons (4504.27829x higher)
Miss Mizzle storm: 3.3644010516252 Megatons
 
These 2 set of calcs got accepted

Lanino and Elnina temperature feats: 16.35 MegaJoule to 0,012628775 Tons of TNT -Lanino- 0,005581767 Tons to 0,017371152 Tons (A 3.22986573x and 3.11212417x)
Another 8-A Feat and Class M: 127,72003207 tons / 37136.6033765 tons (Class M)
Tenna's Weather Report: goes from 7.28 Tons of TNT to 32.793657877579 Kilotons (4504.27829x higher)
Miss Mizzle storm: 3.3644010516252 Megatons
Do we have a UES? cuz the latter calc sounds like an upgrade for the city level scaling
Oh and can we use that Tenna calc for anything
 
Undertale powerscaling:
"I need to find any 8-C calc somewhere, we are gonna lose MHS at this rate. Goddamn, another 9-B calc"
Deltarune powerscaling:
These 2 set of calcs got accepted

Lanino and Elnina temperature feats: 16.35 MegaJoule to 0,012628775 Tons of TNT -Lanino- 0,005581767 Tons to 0,017371152 Tons (A 3.22986573x and 3.11212417x)
Another 8-A Feat and Class M: 127,72003207 tons / 37136.6033765 tons (Class M)
Tenna's Weather Report: goes from 7.28 Tons of TNT to 32.793657877579 Kilotons (4504.27829x higher)
Miss Mizzle storm: 3.3644010516252 Megatons
 
These 2 set of calcs got accepted
Thanks for new calcs(and validating waves we make during this fight as sound waves, it is helpful).

There is a problem with Force calculation though. Can't write in the comments, so will write here.
You are multiplying mass to velocity, instead of acceleration. To find acceleration we need formula a=2*S/(t^2)
Ball of cats moved 77px | 1.37 m
Sound waves moved 9px | 0.16 m
Actual timeframe is 0.16/334=0.000467 seconds
Acceleration=(2*S)/t^2=12567422 m/s^2
Force = 12567432*124107 = 1559704970000 newtons, or 159 million tons(Class G)(slight upgrade for 7-Bs(Gang, Knight, Gerson, Titan)?
You should add this below other calculations, and ask CGM to evaluate it again.

Do we have a UES? cuz the latter calc sounds like an upgrade for the city level scaling
Oh and can we use that Tenna calc for anything
Nah. Closest thing we can have it's arguing that Soul works same way in both UT and DR, adding things from library(about how SOUL is lifeforce, etc..) and get UES for Lightners, but only for them.
Besides, city scaling for Darkners would be outliers.
 
Hey, in a battle against Bloodlust, Asgore could use the six souls, right? Is that a viable win condition for him? And perhaps for any monster with prior knowledge fighting near the barrier?
 
Hey, in a battle against Bloodlust, Asgore could use the six souls, right? Is that a viable win condition for him? And perhaps for any monster with prior knowledge fighting near the barrier?
No lol, we don't even know what that would look like.
 
I mean, Asgore has the human souls close to him and he’s fully capable of using them, there’s just never a point in the game where he wanted to. To me it doesn’t seem that different to Illumination Bowser having a Super Star key.
 
I mean, Asgore has the human souls close to him and he’s fully capable of using them, there’s just never a point in the game where he wanted to. To me it doesn’t seem that different to Illumination Bowser having a Super Star key.
It seems like way too much speculation though given that the times we see SOULs being absorbed it's done by Flowey who is very much not a normal example, like we can't just assume Asgore with the SOULs would have the same hax as Omega Flowey.

Like with the power star at least both Mario and Luigi use it and they share the same general effects, it's easy to reason those same properties would apply to Bowser if he got one, simple enough. I just don't think the SOUL stuff is as simple.
 
It seems like way too much speculation though given that the times we see SOULs being absorbed it's done by Flowey who is very much not a normal example, like we can't just assume Asgore with the SOULs would have the same hax as Omega Flowey.

Like with the power star at least both Mario and Luigi use it and they share the same general effects, it's easy to reason those same properties would apply to Bowser if he got one, simple enough. I just don't think the SOUL stuff is as simple.
I see your point, but I don’t think Flowey being not technically a monster would change much about his powers. It’s also fairly clear which powers are based on Flowey’s own magic and which are powers granted through the souls/DT, so we could just list powers that aren’t Flowey-coded.

I agree that it’s a bit theoretical, but it doesn’t seem too theoretical imo.
 
Edutyn did it already, but that matchup didn't fire, so I am starting it anew:
 
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Tried to do by myself, before realising that these hands inflict same damage when they ram into SOUL and when SOUL touches them while they are in rest. Same thing got us Mettaton legs feat invalidated
Just wondering, the speed is fine or is also invalid?
 
I finished most (I think) of Mike calcs. Since there are some major errors, due to assumptions, and because im tired rn i will correct them tomorrow.
 
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