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arent we still outdated asf rn?
We are, but at least the Root is Tier 0... at least, it would be if someone OPENED THE PAGE FOR EDITING!
💀 what the hell? what are they waiting for, easter? 😭
Nothing, it was agreed upon that the page should be edited (there's already a sandbox with the new AP justifications and inherent Tier 0 abilities), but I guess no one unlocked the page.
Holy shit how do you get downgraded from tier 0 to Low 1A?😭
🤷‍♂️
Apparently, from what I last read in the thread, they're waiting for the Root's hax/abilities thread to just update the profile all in one go
At first, that was the case, but it was later agreed upon to just edit the page.
That might go higher in general since mystery scaling was based on the previous downplay-scaling so it might schange drastically to different types of entity
It almost certainly will go higher.

Low 1A?
I'm pretty sure going to low 1-C to 1-C pretty soon
Geez, this month has not been very nice to Hoyoverse scaling on here, has it?
Needing to list hax for a Tier 0 is absurd and pointless
Yeah, but we are an indexing wiki, after all. Still, it would be pretty funny if we list out every hax the Root would have (it would probably be the longest page on the wiki since it gets every ability in the franchise).
 
Bad page like the 9-B berserker jack page.
I didn't realize their page was that bad; that's hilarious.
Do the servants still qualify for the new invulnerability standards ?
They do.

Jujutsu Kaisen's Cursed Spirits' invulnerability was just accepted as being allowed under the new standards, so beings of Mystery/Mystics should also still qualify.
 
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Small qurstion, but would the soul=4D ever change considering the higher dimensional souls originate from the root??
 
The case of higher dimensional souls came from the fact that souls come from akasha
Not really it came from this quote on this CRT.
"Once, there had been a miracle on the earth able to materialize the soul.

That, however, was lost in the Great Collapse of the 70s. Since then, accepting their downfall, the magi incorporated the modern science they had once tabooed and gave the “soul” a new definition.

It was “the location of where the conscious was being outputted”, the magical theory of virtual spiritrons.

In the past, the conscious could only be manifested through the body.

But the magi pinpointed the location of the “soul” and succeeded in outputting it to the new frontier, projecting it as an avatar in the cyber world.

With this, the magi transferred themselves to the electronic world and became capable of more advanced information acquisition.

After all, the soul was a higher dimensional energy body and it was quite superior as an information medium. With the announcement of this theory, networking technology if nothing else made significant strides in the new world. The military industrial complex in exchange for their real world weapons development being suspended devoted their resources in development of weapons that were in the cyber world."
 
The case of higher dimensional souls came from the fact that souls come from akasha
No it because it’s from a higher dimmension , the litteral reason we could save Olga in the beginning and why the plan of Chaldea could work was because soul are from a higher dimmensionnal plan. Marisbury explain it
 
Why not? Souls aren't universally understood to be fully immaterial/aspatial.
Fate/EXTRA Material · Encyclopedia of Fate/EXTRA
A soul resides in all life forms that are intelligent. It is spiritual life that is not part of any physical phenomenon.
In the world of EXTRA it is said to be the source that enables a container to have life.
In the past, in the medical community, it was thought that the body = life, and the body was an output device needed to power the soul. Without a living body, a soul could not be generated.
However, in the magus community the opposite was thought to be true. The soul is a “will” that lies in another dimension, and that will occupies a body.
Which school of thought is correct still remains unknown today, however in the world of EXTRA Pseudo-Spiritron Theory has been established. From this theory it became clear that the soul can activate even without a physical body, and as such the soul has come to be treated as “the source of a person.”
 
To me FSF so far has been more about just hype moments and aura, not to say its a bad show or I hate it but its just so far at least the anime adaption seems way more focused in going from fight to fight or big thing to big thing then actually establishing the actual story and giving more depth to the charcthers or even having just some breathing space, But other then that its been very fun and nice to look forward to each week
 
To me FSF so far has been more about just hype moments and aura, not to say its a bad show or I hate it but its just so far at least the anime adaption seems way more focused in going from fight to fight or big thing to big thing then actually establishing the actual story and giving more depth to the charcthers or even having just some breathing space, But other then that its been very fun and nice to look forward to each week
Let them cook
 
I heard there will be some changes to invulnerability will that affect servants somehow or will they still have their absurd invul even after that?
 
From the little I've read, Invulnerability will be invalid as long as it does not have a mechanic behind it that warrants it. I.e., your typical invencibility from videogames won't warrant it.

However, servants have a mechanic behind invulnerability, that being "Mystery". So I'd say they're safe
 
Does anyone have a link for a translation of the scene where Ergo uses Divine Eyes with Flat?

After YEARS the bullshit take that gods are "insert words here" because of their Perception can be put to rest
 
Can I ask what the take was?
They basically do what MOON Cell, but instead of "calculating", Flat says it is "tracing the Karma" ( Karma here the concept of actions and consequences beyond the obvious ones and even through different lives )

They also can visualize multiple parallel universe, so they can even do What Ifs - Moon Cell doesnt do this. It makes sense as Earth has not only accepted Second Magic, but called it "beautiful".

( This is one of the possible "channels" humans have turned off / interiorized. )
 
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