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i just found here
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Removing CM1 from Aeons (Honkai: Star Rail)
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I might have to remove that too yo.
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Is it just me or why does HGR and infinite speed reason lowkey contradict each other
one scan assume they get hit by irontomb blast so they need to reform their essence, and other assume they react to irontomb blast and sent themselves to path space
one scan assume they get hit by irontomb blast so they need to reform their essence, and other assume they react to irontomb blast and sent themselves to path space
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Because it does.
Entering Path Space means turning your body incorporeal like what Phainon did. But this isn’t even the issue with the hax; it’s that Cyrene is literally just using Time/Causality Manip to restore things
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the profiles dont even have the specific scan of life data getting erased btw
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no, we literally see us get restored on info leve cuz u literally see like data shit restoring when she restored entire cosmos and all life
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What part of this is mutually exclusive with time manip
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That NEP also has issues. As far as I can see, there is no scan stating that an Aeon or Aeons are nothingness to justify the NEP attributed to them. The NEP in question is a property of the realm itself, not the Aeons, and some of the scans do not even work.
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I have pointed this out too hehe. I’m pretty sure it’s called “absolute nothingness” in the same way the vacuum of space is called “nothingness”.
But I’ll be addressing all of these one at a time.
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You do know the realm and the Aeons aren't differentiated, yes? Aeonhood and Imaginary Space aren't separated nor differentiated, they're the same thing, why do you think each Aeons have their own Path Space lmao? It's because when an entity ascends into Aeonhood, not only they create said Path but they also create Path Space which is Imaginary Space
There's something called references, if the references are there then it's just the matter of fetching the scans back cause we know where to get them
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You literally cannot prove a single one of these statements
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Prove Eden of Blessed Insight existing before the creation of the Path of Remembrance or the Horizon of Existence existing prior to the creation of the Path of Nihility then lol, you can't because they all only existed after the creations of said Path, play the game and read the scans for once maybe
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I see. I’m also impressed by what I’m looking at. They really created High-Godly Immortality Type 2 plus conceptual immortality type 2, even though Immortality Type 2 is tied to the physical body.
Bruh, I don’t play the game, so I don’t know. I wouldn’t have minded if I had the time, so you’re the one who needs to prove what you said with scans.
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All this talk is making me realize I should prolly downgrade LOTM regen from Mid to Low-Godly…
It also doesn’t make sense for the intrinsic, differentiating property of the Horizon [i.e non-existence], to be commonly shared across all other dimensions.
None of these are the so-called “Path Space”. They’re just dimensions.
It also doesn’t make sense for the intrinsic, differentiating property of the Horizon [i.e non-existence], to be commonly shared across all other dimensions.
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How does it not make any sense when all of them is categorized as Path Space which is again, Imaginary Space? I don't know how they're just dimensions either, like do you even like play the game..?
Since when Immortality Type 2 is limited to physical properties lol? Also if you really have contentions with them then discuss it somewhere instead of cluttering this thread more, I just explained about their NEP1 literally, you could literally see the databank on the wiki if you can't access it that bad when they explained what Horizon of Existence is
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I mean you remind me how did they restore all life across cosmos?
By either using time/causality hax or by using memories of entire cosmos to reconstruct entire cosmos using remembrance.
provide scans bcs i genuenly dont remember time being factor here, tho i dont rly see HGR that much either i just want to know exact context of the scene since neither of profiles have put scans of life data being erased and then restored just youtube clips
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Firstly, can I know where it’s stated that they are Path Space (genuinely curious)?
Secondly, there are very clear differences between Imaginary Spaces. The one in Hi3 for example has time working like space, but the Path Space in HSR has time not flowing at all.
So once again, how does it make sense for all Imaginary Spaces to share the defining property of the Horizon; it’s like saying all Aeons are non-existence because IX is.
I always thought using memories is some sort of time manip, but honestly… it’s really weird. Maybe we have to remove the hax.
Nevertheless (as you said), this isn’t HGR. Because the hax is not given by using an ability to construct yourself, but by you yourself not dying after having a fundamental aspect removed and you regenerating. (This is why Healing and Regen are explicitly different hax)
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well removing hax doesnt solve it for now, wed probably have to find another hax to replace this since its already something they did on screen with bunch of statements to back it up, but thats for another thread we should just get this concluded first.
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Went through most of the thread (I could really be doing better things with my time), and I agree with the downgrade.
As for the rest, yeah regeneration from a Type 3 concept isn't High-Godly. And while there also seem to be more issues, those are beyond the scope of this thread so they should be addressed another time. Let's keep on topic.
As for the rest, yeah regeneration from a Type 3 concept isn't High-Godly. And while there also seem to be more issues, those are beyond the scope of this thread so they should be addressed another time. Let's keep on topic.
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Scans for the entire Imaginary concept being CM1 justification is completely hidden btw, I made RVT about this, you would like to check that one before any changes to HI3 is made further, I'll make a thread to fix this issue especially for HSR first before I continue to HI3. I have to replace the HI3 scans that are hidden first especially HSR profiles and stuff with the ones on the references before continuing further onto the thread.
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i think we can propose low godly for aeons since one of the emanators of destruction have low godly already. not sure if this type of upscale works but worth trying
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“Lets keep on topic” inside of a Honkai thread
I don’t mind waiting for you to hash out a response before applying anything. Tho, it’s likely just going to be the same thing already discussed.
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Though this reminds me: souls technically weren’t addressed in this thread.
Guess they’ll be part of my general hax CRT.
Nevertheless, HGR is based on Paths and not Souls so it’ll have to go.
Guess they’ll be part of my general hax CRT.
Nevertheless, HGR is based on Paths and not Souls so it’ll have to go.
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“Lets keep on topic” inside of a Honkai thread
I don’t mind waiting for you to hash out a response before applying anything. Tho, it’s likely just going to be the same thing already discussed.
Just make it like the next 1-2 months cause I genuinely have to replace the scans for everything first, its like 90% of HI3 being affected by this and 5% of HSR lol
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So do you have a reasoning for “CM1 Imaginary”?
If not, this thread can be closed and I’ll personally remove/change all the relevant parts. Then you can just make any revisions in a posterior thread.
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I already explained my reasoning here but like the scans are all hidden so like
Post in thread 'Removing CM1 from Aeons (Honkai: Star Rail)' https://vsbattles.com/threads/removing-cm1-from-aeons-honkai-star-rail.184877/post-7358741
I linked the scans on the thread I send you there but like, everything isn't ideal rn, I can't debate stuff when the scans are gone LOL even if I know you don't read the scans cause yeah..
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If it’s just an earlier post then it’s meaningless because all of that was already argued and debated in later comments. I remember that specific post pretty well and all of the relevant parts should just be in my summary.
I think this thread can be closed then. If you reallyyyyy want to, you can try in another thread. Nobody is stopping you.
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Not only is the thread 3 months old, but it also had unanimous approval. There’s no grace here
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Yeah but this is probably going to be applied after like we crosschecked everything, since CM1 is from the Imaginary anyway that's eventually going to be nuked cause scans aren't there
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Ah fairs
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Again, as long as there are references, the scans aren't invalid. You can move on as usual on that end.
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I can get on to applying changes in a little bit 
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Aigh so I downgraded all the CM unrelated so Souls and also put the corresponding regen at Low Godly. So I believe this thread can be closed
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No you didn'tAigh so I downgraded all the CM unrelated so Souls and also put the corresponding regen at Low Godly. So I believe this thread can be closed
Imaginary Energy (Honkai)
Paths are congregations of Imaginary energy, born as manifestations of universal philosophical concepts. Those who believe in and practice the concepts behind a certain path become Pathstriders,[1] and the path that they happen to follow will change in accordance with their own philosophies and...
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oh ye. I removed it from the Honkai page only... I'll fix rqNo you didn't
Imaginary Energy (Honkai)
Paths are congregations of Imaginary energy, born as manifestations of universal philosophical concepts. Those who believe in and practice the concepts behind a certain path become Pathstriders,[1] and the path that they happen to follow will change in accordance with their own philosophies and...
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Ok done
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To be clear, are there still any type 1 concepts in the setting aside from this? I noticed that being able to interact with concepts is still labelled as Type 1 on the IE page.
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