Strongest 5-D Characters on the Wiki

[Vietthai96]

Just need something Low 1-C related.

Ngl, you should use spoiler tab like top strongest thread for non-smurf and smurf

 

[Robo432343]

• Meng Hao should be bumped to 2nd spot since Seal the Heavens Hex is passive.
• Overlord GAIA should be included alongside Diablomon for digimon characters, since Gaia has passive 13 layers mindhax.
• Why is Diablomon above MG?

I talked to a supporter and he told me Diablomons the strongest low 1-C for this list and that every ability in the data manip page is 10-D

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

I talked to a supporter and he told me Diablomons the strongest low 1-C for this list and that every ability in the data manip page is 10-D

Thats just range, it doesnt help with anything.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

"10-D hax" isnt a potency thing anymore. It's either just range or AP. And digimon does not have enough layers for their hax to affect/incap Anos.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

I thought the only abilities that don’t apply for higher D hax was CM and Info or something?

It's not a matter of them being higher-d or not. They still are smurf range, it just doesn't matter for smurf potency.

Digimon's main stuff is RW/Info/Law/Concept, all of which cant have smurf potency unless it's 1-A.

 

[Shar122]

"10-D hax" isnt a potency thing anymore. It's either just range or AP. And digimon does not have enough layers for their hax to affect/incap Anos.

Except if it's dimensional, space-time hax etc. or Haxes that are related to dimensionality still.

 

[SuperNova55555]

Robo, if dimensionality was smurf, HSR would be no.1 on the list.

 

[SuperNova55555]

Nah I heard HSR’s 12-D thing isn’t really combat applicable

It can affect up to 12 dimensions; it’s just not 12 infinite dimensions. The smurf here would lie on the quality of higher dimensionality, not the size of them. But in fact it’s neither.

 

[Robo432343]

the chinamen are dominating

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your goat gao chuan is here

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Ao_(Dungeons_and_Dragons)

this guy beat amaterasu

Outdated, leave it out the list

 

[Eseseso]

For the Smurf list, what 1-A hax do #3 and #2 have?

I know that no one is touching Gao Chuan lol

 

[Deonment]

If we're actually having them on the list, Digimon characters should be above VHD, they can actually interact with and bypass their NEP (Negamon exists), resist all their hax and can just hit them back with their own hax

 

[Deonment]

But Negamon is 1-C. Who else can bypass their NEP apart from Negamon

No?
Negamon is the mon with the NEP 2, High Tier Digimon and Light can interact with it. GAIA and Diablomon, in addition to other high tiers, can interact with Negamon

 

[Mbpoops]

2-D hoyo in a conversation with 5D mfs

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

guys i made a separate list with smurfs this time in the OP
correct me if the list is wrong

If you added smurfs characters from PGR should be higher, since there are some smurfs that are 1C and in fact...some of them have 7D+ smurf immortality. Unless this has already been taken into account

 

[Robo432343]

If you added smurfs characters from PGR should be higher, since there are some smurfs that are 1C and in fact...some of them have 7D+ smurf immortality. Unless this has already been taken into account

which characters specifically have 1-C stuff

 

[Vietthai96]

HSR should be above DMC in smurfs list

 

[SuperNova55555]

2-D hoyo in a conversation with 5D mfs

Hoyo gonna be fighting for a spot in the top 10 of Tier 3 soon enough

 

[Mbpoops]

Hoyo gonna be fighting for a spot in the top 10 of Tier 3 soon enough

Phantylia back to 3B?? Agree fra

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

which characters specifically have 1-C stuff

Of the L1C characaters namely just Cradle has smurf immortality now, you can choose to wait until I rework her profile to decide where you wanna put her if you want

 

[Mbpoops]

Hoyo gonna be fighting for a spot in the top 10 of Tier 3 soon enough

maybe if the crt gets accepted...

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

HSR should be above DMC in smurfs list

nah I disagree

 

[Mbpoops]

nah I disagree

12D HDE smurf bruh

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

12D HDE smurf bruh

So? lol

Having HDE just means you are too big to get killed not that they can win against DMC characters

DMC chars resist everything except Info 2 and as seen with the Kratos threads (before they also got info 2) that just means incon matches

 

[Vietthai96]

nah I disagree

IX and Irontomb have passive haxes, especially Info 2 EE, IX also have NEP2 and 12D HDE

 

[Mbpoops]

So? lol

Having HDE just means you are too big to get killed not that they can win against DMC characters

DMC chars resist everything except Info 2 and as seen with the Kratos threads (before they also got info 2) that just means incon matches

honkai energy has info 2 tho and irontomb should have that not to mention how are they gonna touch 12D hde?

 

[Mbpoops]

info 2 wank

low 1-C because one character uses the ues gotta be top 5 things ive heard this week

 

[Robo432343]

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bro

 

[Vietthai96]

bro

Not this shit again, what Whis mean was the sequence of events, or what we often call "causality", this mean the events will always flowing from the past to the future rather than backward or loop or whatever weird sequence out there fiction can think of. Well in game there is also time where past, present and future was mixed into one moment and happen simultaneously but anyway which this mean is abstract direction of causality, not physical dimensional axis of direction.

 

[Robo432343]

nah bro
db only has 1 time direction it clearly states
insane antifeat

 

[Vietthai96]

 

[Mbpoops]

Tsundere viett

 

[Vietthai96]

Viett falling for the robait

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

bro is a master baiter

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

IX and Irontomb have passive haxes, especially Info 2 EE, IX also have NEP2 and 12D HDE

The only relevant hax is info 2 and DMC chars can regen back just fine, the others are all resisted

NEP 2 just means they can't interact for now and HDE makes them too big to be killed

They can just stare one another for the end of time for all I care lol I never said DMC should be above honkai yet

 

[Vietthai96]

The only relevant hax is info 2 and DMC chars can regen back just fine, the others are all resisted

You need feat of DMC characters can regen from Info 2 erasure, also, even if they can regen, IX and Irontomb passive can constantly delete them, which, in a sense, eternal incap

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

You need feat of DMC characters can regen from Info 2 erasure, also, even if they can regen, IX and Irontomb passive can constantly delete them, which, in a sense, eternal incap

nah you don't, the whole asriel vs kratos was us debating about it and then someone linking a post in DT wall saying that if nothing prevents something else from creating the body/matter then the deleted party can come back just fine and since neither IX or Irontomb can nuke the soul/concept then demons will exist as such (Dante can as seen with Nero in DMC4 but has no feats of doing anything releveant) and several demons including void mundus can act as disembodied whatever they are, so not really incap


To quote him "Information is different from concepts, as getting rid of it usually doesn't prevent the recreation of the original.
Like, if a rock is actually information, then anyone that has feats for creating a rock from nothing kinda has feats of indirectly creating the information of the rock from nothing.
That's different from concepts, as creating a rock from nothing doesn't require the creation of a new rock concept."

basically info 2 wank the only thing that prevents honkai broskis from getting stomped at that point is NEP and HDE

also also the Kratos vs Dante match ended in a sort of incon

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

which characters specifically have 1-C stuff

Revision is done, they got 1C range now. So ig remove them from the normal list, since iirc it isn't allowed? I might be misremembering tho

 

[Tanin_iver]

The first two spots on the Non-smurf list, i.e

1. Yang Qi
2. Characters from What a Beautiful Series (Alva Avan Edison and M)

Shouldn't even be on the list.
Yang Qi has like the most textbook meta-qualitative state of existence(High 1-A) and the Characters from What a Beautiful Series have BDE-2(atleast Low 1-A)

 

[Orioreeem]

The first two spots on the Non-smurf list, i.e

Shouldn't even be on the list.
Yang Qi has like the most textbook meta-qualitative state of existence(High 1-A) and the Characters from What a Beautiful Series have BDE-2(atleast Low 1-A)

Well they are currently that tier so they qualify until someone updates them