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MCU Phase 6 General Discussion Thread

A certain scene in Wonder Man episode 6 has some peculiar implications when you remember that in the MCU, dreams are canonically glimpses into alternate universes...
 
So it looks like the abilities demonstrated by Wonder Man include:

  • Superhuman Physical Characteristics
  • Ionic Energy Manipulation
  • Shockwave Generation
  • Explosion Manipulation
  • Resistance to Fire and Poison Manipulation (unaffected by fire and smoke inhalation at age 13)
  • Limited Technology Manipulation (shorted out a security camera and caused lights to flicker)
  • Aura
  • Flight
  • Social Influencing


I guess the most impressive feats that could potentially be calculated would be the ionic energy explosion at the end of episode 7, and the cell door tearing, plus probably the flight feat from episode 8. Simon destroys a decent amount of reinforced concrete leaving the Supermax Prison, too.


As another note, Doorman doesn't really seem to have any feats that would put him above tier 10, and his abilities would seem to fall under:
  • Portal Creation (can use his body as a portal to let other people pass through walls)
  • Intangibility (can pass through walls, and also allow thrown objects to pass through him)
  • (Situational) Absorption and BFR (accidentally absorbed Josh Gad, leaving him alive but trapped)
 
Dinobot1996 said:
I guess the most impressive feats that could potentially be calculated would be the ionic energy explosion at the end of episode 7, and the cell door tearing, plus probably the flight feat from episode 8. Simon destroys a decent amount of reinforced concrete leaving the Supermax Prison, too.
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If you can provide the scans, I can calculate one or two of these feats.
 
I quite liked Wonder Man. The pacing was a bit slow (but it doesn't really matter since they dropped the whole series in one go anyways) but I thought the acting was great and the emotional parts of the story were pretty strong. I found myself getting emotional at parts to be honest.
 
Depending on which universe's New Jersey is getting destroyed, these are the major established Jersey-based locations in the MCU that might be at risk:
  • Camp Lehigh
  • Westview
  • Eastview, home of Billy Kaplan
  • Jersey City, home of Kamala Khan
 
darkphantom9805 said:
Considering the stakes of the film and how many high tiers are on it yeah doomsday and secret wars will be huge
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This. Doomsday is supposed to be a massive multiversal sized event so it's expected that it would bring some spectacular feats and power ups
 
Dinobot1996 said:
According to the latest reports, Tramell Tillman’s character in Spider-Man: Brand New Day will be William Metzger. According to the report:

"Metzger will serve as the leader of Damage Control in the Marvel Cinematic Universe and will be an anti-mutant character. Sources tell Nexus Point News that Tillman signed a multi-picture deal which potentially includes Marvel Studios’ upcoming X-Men films."
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So Damage Control is really going to stay and get more importance huh? Care to make them a bit more competent so they can actually be credible MCU?
 
At this point, I assume that Damage Control will end up being involved with creating Sentinels in the MCU, as that seems like the most straightforward way to boost their threat level.
 
Dinobot1996 said:
The best versions of the feats I can find right now:
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Someone had already calculated this and got a 9-A result.
Dinobot1996 said:
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Unfortunately, I can't calculate that.
Dinobot1996 said:
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I will calculate this as soon as possible.
Dinobot1996 said:
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I'll try to calculate that.
 
darkphantom9805 said:
The devils Anus is a collapsing magnetar


The Statesman withstood the Devils anus and Thor survived it’s destruction from the power stone is there a calc for it ?
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These are probably being dismissed as resistance and overlooked. However, I think these are possible tangible feats.
 
ArkhamDC06 said:
So Damage Control is really going to stay and get more importance huh? Care to make them a bit more competent so they can actually be credible MCU?
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I think that's what they're going for. DODC is working up to eventually be a massive anti-mutant organization, which'll really kick off when more mutants pop around in the MCU. Wonder Man really shows that DoDC is kind of null right now, given the severe lack of enhanced humans in their prisons.
 
Magnetar statement is specifically from the novel:
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The movie has Banner describe it as a collapsing neutron star inside of an Einstein-Rosen bridge.
 
Well, I assume surface area stuff would prevent Emil Blonsky from being able to get an upgrade through that.
 
RoTt35 said:
The Mid-End Was also accepted
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If we go with the mid-end for Super Soldiers then that would make street level tiers like Black Widow and Daredevil 8-C via downscaling that value by 10x which would be insane high-balling.
 
Lacku said:
If we go with the mid-end for Super Soldiers then that would make street level tiers like Black Widow and Daredevil 8-C via downscaling that value by 10x which would be insane high-balling.
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Personally, I'd love to see Daredevil and Black Widow at 8-C.
 
ByArrow said:
Personally, I'd love to see Daredevil and Black Widow at 8-C.
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It’s not that I don’t like the ratings themselves it’s just that I’m not sure if it’s consistent with the feats we’ve seen from these characters up to now. So far the upper end of street tiers have been consistently 9-A, going from that to straight up 8-C is a really big jump.
 
Lacku said:
It’s not that I don’t like the ratings themselves it’s just that I’m not sure if it’s consistent with the feats we’ve seen from these characters up to now. So far the upper end of street tiers have been consistently 9-A, going from that to straight up 8-C is a really big jump.
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Yes. Agreed. We should strive for reliability, not for fanservice. 🙏
 
Lacku said:
It’s not that I don’t like the ratings themselves it’s just that I’m not sure if it’s consistent with the feats we’ve seen from these characters up to now. So far the upper end of street tiers have been consistently 9-A, going from that to straight up 8-C is a really big jump.
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Can you list the 9-A feats in question? Because when I look at the MCU page, I only see one 9-A feat.
 
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