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Game-point; Ready...Slap! | Travis Touchdown (No more heroes) vs The Player (Slap Battles) | [7-1-0] (Grace)

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Resistance to [...], Time Manipulation (Can move normally in Yojohan where time moves backwards[37])

Word to the wise if you're trying to argue it's a stomp you should probably not also be arguing it's a win at the same time
ok while i admit that was a mistake on my part, dosent change the fact slap has several ways in order to stun travis. Also this has to be some manner of association fallacy.

Travis is immune to time rewinding so therefore he is immune to all types of time manipulation????
 
can you quote where?

majority of stuns don't really work against him though

travis is gonna aggro slap while outrunning bob...

because of the massive skill difference and time dialation slap can't really do anything about it ig
ok ignore the 2 pages ago, it still was yesterday
Insulting me won't make your argument any better especially since that's what you're doing this whole thread. Besides if we go by you're half baked logic this is a stomp and IIRC we don't add stomps
No, one stun dosenjt work against him using association fallacy and being very generous (gods hand time stop), stun would still work as well as brick trap etc
Dude I spent 10 minutes of my life reading this.

Anyway, your win-condition wont work without prior knowledge. Because lets be real here, I read your main argument about having multiple wincons and i do think its valid. But would you think they'd really go for it? over like 200+ gloves? Without your input lets just say thats a guy in front of you, he doesnt seem strong or whatever. Would you summon bob over like anything else?
because they want to fight to be over quickly, most people they fight in game do look like average people but yet are on their level so i dont see why this is any differnet. We can use this same logic for travis too, why would he use time dilation and immedeatly mega blitz the average block guy
uld work on him as well as brick bind stop i realluy dont feel like going on. what does aggro slap even mean in this case slap is not stupid enough to fall for a taunt to come closer to someone he knows would kill him. As for the time dilation in all the clips ive seen for travis in close combat (as stated earlier but was yet again ignored), hes just bum rushing
 
Also key mechanics of bob is that he hinders your vison and goes faster the further he is from you, so bobs at least going to be in relative range of him
ok ignore the 2 pages ago, it still was yesterday

No, one stun dosenjt work against him using association fallacy and being very generous (gods hand time stop), stun would still work as well as brick trap etc

because they want to fight to be over quickly, most people they fight in game do look like average people but yet are on their level so i dont see why this is any differnet. We can use this same logic for travis too, why would he use time dilation and immedeatly mega blitz the average block guy
uld work on him as well as brick bind stop i realluy dont feel like going on. what does aggro slap even mean in this case slap is not stupid enough to fall for a taunt to come closer to someone he knows would kill him. As for the time dilation in all the clips ive seen for travis in close combat (as stated earlier but was yet again ignored)
 
You really don't like it when someone doesn't actually care about the long extended stamina debate you want, huh? I have the same points, You have the same points, and we won't get anywhere rewording them ten times.
no, i dont like it when my points are continously straw manned with the same fallacies and hypocritical arguments
 
Lets go with athels logic for a second here

''Without your input lets just say thats a guy in front of you, he doesnt seem strong or whatever. Would you Immedeatly blitz him with time dilation and telekenetic hax over like anything else when youve never done that in character to any other enemeis;;;?
 
Either way during this whole thread its been like this

A;Xyz cant use this because abc
B:Actually xyz would use this because def
A:But what about ghi
B:adresses ghi
A: k but what about abc, you never adressed that!
 
ive brought up points actually debunking the other side, to disregard my points because i may be acting in a way you dont like isint really fair...
 
ok ignore the 2 pages ago, it still was yesterday
even then why were you arguing for him still winning????
No, one stun dosenjt work against him using association fallacy \
What is with people yapping about fallicies they don't know about...

No, this dosen't fit guilt by association (what I assume you mean by association fallacy) because we aren't saying "travis resisted one stun therefore he resets every stun!" we're saying travis bypassess the stuns because most of them are LS based and travis humiliates slap in LS
and being very generous (gods hand time stop),
once again ESP, IA, ANPR, Time dialation

moment it ends and he tries to hit him he'll just dodge
stun would still work as well as brick trap etc
Again, lifting strength
 
ive brought up points actually debunking the other side, to disregard my points because i may be acting in a way you dont like isint really fair...
You mean the same points just reworded or being countered by your fellow Roblox aficionado?

Yeah, totally convincing people, there...

Anyways, gonna unfollow now, no need to get spammed for another hundred posts.
 
even then why were you arguing for him still winning????

What is with people yapping about fallicies they don't know about...

No, this dosen't fit guilt by association (what I assume you mean by association fallacy) because we aren't saying "travis resisted one stun therefore he resets every stun!" we're saying travis bypassess the stuns because most of them are LS based and travis humiliates slap in LS

once again ESP, IA, ANPR, Time dialation

moment it ends and he tries to hit him he'll just dodge

Again, lifting strength
you never brough up lifting strength till now stop backtracking. I was still arguing for him because the half baked consensus was that travis would mega blitz and one shot and i said IF we went by that logic that would be stomping. That is literally what you are doing though, youre saying because travis can moved in reverse time he can moved in stopped time despite stopped time being a completley different medium. I also dont see how lifting stregth would help with para inducment. he dosent even have to try and hit him in time stop bob would just walk over to him and absorb him (or float)
 
You mean the same points just reworded or being countered by your fellow Roblox aficionado?

Yeah, totally convincing people, there...

Anyways, gonna unfollow now, no need to get spammed for another hundred posts.
no, i mean the same points that have been consistently dodged or countered by arguments that dont make sense, bye
 
well either way this probably cant be added if we use their logic and im honestly tired so unless anyone replies to this im done. Gonna make different matchups till delusion makes the player crt
 
you never brough up lifting strength till now stop backtracking.
We need to get actual LS for slap bruv, its sad to see his class 5 TK get done like this in every thread
That's a weakness of this ability, the NMH one ragdolls people of much higher LS.
I was still arguing for him because the half baked consensus was that travis would mega blitz and one shot and i said IF we went by that logic that would be stomping.
He isn't blitzing and one shotting he's just skill clowning
That is literally what you are doing though, youre saying because travis can moved in reverse time he can moved in stopped time despite stopped time being a completley different medium.
Both of them are time manipulation abilities that prevent the victim from moving forward so idk if thats even accurate

that said this wasn't really the main reason why travis could handle timestop so it dosen't really matter
I also dont see how lifting stregth would help with para inducment.
You brought up TK and traps...not para inducement

thats why I said MOST of his stuns get LS diffed not ALL
he dosent even have to try and hit him in time stop bob would just walk over to him and absorb him (or float)
Bob can't catch him

anyway I don't have any interest in the thread anymore, arguing again and again like this is just repetitive, I'll stick around to count votes but this is gonna be my last major response here
 
He isn't blitzing and one shotting he's just skill clowning

Both of them are time manipulation abilities that prevent the victim from moving forward so idk if thats even accurate

that said this wasn't really the main reason why travis could handle timestop so it dosen't really matter

You brought up TK and traps...not para inducement

thats why I said MOST of his stuns get LS diffed not ALL

Bob can't catch him

anyway I don't have any interest in the thread anymore, arguing again and again like this is just repetitive, I'll stick around to count votes but this is gonna be my last major response here
That was in refference to travises telekeniss, not the plaeyrs stgun. One prevents moving by rewinding one prevents by stopping, totally differnt. And either way gods hand is the best stun in the game so i dont see why he would use it. Bob wouldnt have to catch him hed get time stopped diffed
It's called dodge, time slow, and Slap getting their tender ass quite literally handed to them.

I know your precious baby boy is getting his ass kicked but he ain't all that.
''its not blitzing its skill diff''. Also want to brought up you said slap dies before he does anything, defenition of blitz
 
That was in refference to travises telekeniss, not the plaeyrs stgun. One prevents moving by rewinding one prevents by stopping, totally differnt. And either way gods hand is the best stun in the game so i dont see why he would use it. Bob wouldnt have to catch him hed get time stopped diffed

''its not blitzing its skill diff''. Also want to brought up you said slap dies before he does anything, defenition of blitz
it is quit literally going to go like this

1.bob summoned
2.Travis chops up slap
3.slap uses elude to escape in tim
4.slap continues to dodge travises attacks with elude until travis uses ranged options
5.In that time, slap uses time stop and lets bob eat travis, gg
 
Time manip is resisted by Travis. Legit established in like the first or second page when the keys got changed.
resistance toone type of time manip is not justification for every sort of time manip. Being able to walk normally in a world where time is being rewinded is not the same as being able to move when time is stopped. Association fallacy
 
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Well either way my debunking was done too late, most people won't even notice this thread. Can we even add this if this is a stomp
 
@Naito-desu yeah no not what im doing, im saying if were using the logic of travis supporters that he mega dodges all of slaps attacks and time dilation blitzes before slap can make a single action

(that i personally disagree with), then it is a stomp Sorry im pinging my reply option isint working
 
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The rest don't seem to think so. You can't just take their argument to your own interpretation of its conclusion. Arguing that Slap wins on top of trying to say it's a stomp makes it hard for anyone to see the stomp claim as one made in good faith.
 
The rest don't seem to think so. You can't just take their argument to your own interpretation of its conclusion. Arguing that Slap wins on top of trying to say it's a stomp makes it hard for anyone to see the stomp claim as one made in good faith.
Im not arguing both at the same time im doing a hypothetical. Travis supporters won because hes faster, more combat experienced, stronger, and could blitz slap before he could do anything. WHile i disagree with that, im just saying that if a travis supporter wants to add it because of the reasons why he won thats not gonnna work because you cant just say travis stomps and then decide to add it despite it being a stomp
 
The rest don't seem to think so. You can't just take their argument to your own interpretation of its conclusion. Arguing that Slap wins on top of trying to say it's a stomp makes it hard for anyone to see the stomp claim as one made in good faith.
and im not making it up they literally said thats how it would end
It's called dodge, time slow, and Slap getting their tender ass quite literally handed to them.

I know your precious baby boy is getting his ass kicked but he ain't all that.
Not trying to ping you reaper jut using u as an example
 
The threshold for a stomp is very high and you arguing on behalf of the player does in fact demonstrate a possibility that the one-sided win being spoken of isn't as one-sided. By actively advocating for him, you say that he has a chance of winning, and if there's a chance, it's not a stomp.
 
The threshold for a stomp is very high and you arguing on behalf of the player does in fact demonstrate a possibility that the one-sided win being spoken of isn't as one-sided. By actively advocating for him, you say that he has a chance of winning, and if there's a chance, it's not a stomp.
And while he does have a chance of winning that chance has been disregarded, insulted and strawmanned with half baked reasoning. Still haven't seen a single clip of Travis using his time hax and blitzing someone in character instead of using just his beam sword
 
Not how a stomp qualifications work. The wiki actively says

Both characters have several methods of winning. However, one character can reliably use/activate their winning move(s) first. (Check, using your logic)
One character has more ways to win than the other, but the other character wins more times than not due to matchup specifics that allow/cause them to use their winning move(s) immediately.(check, using your logic)
Both characters are otherwise evenly matched in terms of statistics and abilities, but one has regeneration that the other can possibly, but not easily, surmount. (Even more so check since Travis has almost 3x slaps value)
One character having a level of regeneration that prevents them from being killed, but the other has an ability that would allow them to win despite the former's level of regeneration, such as mind manipulation, soul manipulation, etc...(check, Travis mega chopping or smth)
on the page these are described as conditions for a decisive win, not a stomp? or is that what you're describing
 
And while he does have a chance of winning that chance has been disregarded, insulted and strawmanned with half baked reasoning. Still haven't seen a single clip of Travis using his time hax and blitzing someone in character instead of using just his beam sword

on the page these are described as conditions for a decisive win, not a stomp? or is that what you're describing
Well shit. But either way wouldn't one character being able to instantly kill another before he even gets the chance to do anything a stomp. If it's not then this just feels like a really cheap win
 
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