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The Smartest Man Alive vs The Strongest Alien Alive (4/4/0)

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DaReaperMan said:
Permanently? Yes.

But you sort of have to prove said Immortality is actually combat applicable. And since Alien X is kinda the god tier...

Smurf doesn't exist Planck, remember?
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Planck69 said:
Oh. Yeah. Huh.

I guess Kratos just senses Mimir is in danger and vaporizes X's body for good with Sinmara's Cinder. Alien X doesn't have any evidence of regenerating his body from conceptual destruction.
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Actually smurfs for abstract abilities like info2 can still exist if you can prove they can be concentrated.
 
Forgive me if I missed a vote or two, as it stands I don't THINK Ben would TK restrain fast enough? Shit usually takes a moment or two and that's enough to lose the quick draw
 
DaReaperMan said:
Forgive me if I missed a vote or two, as it stands I don't THINK Ben would TK restrain fast enough? Shit usually takes a moment or two and that's enough to lose the quick draw
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Apparently if match does not mentions only Ben in control so default should be all personalities in control in which case, it comes down to devisive serena bellicus, who can apparently ignore ben. Furthermore, Alien X can do things with just thought and body is not necessarily needed as they made ben's omnitrix non functional, so even if body is destroyed, Action will proceed. Alien X EE is also thought based that is almost instant (they'd blink and we are gone).
 
Reiner04 said:
Apparently if match does not mentions only Ben in control so default should be all personalities in control in which case, it comes down to devisive serena bellicus, who can apparently ignore ben. Furthermore, Alien X can do things with just thought and body is not necessarily needed as they made ben's omnitrix non functional, so even if body is destroyed, Action will proceed. Alien X EE is also thought based that is almost instant (they'd blink and we are gone).
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And they also take a moment to ignore Ben, too.

At least if the Gladiator scan was any indication, that guy was beating their ******* ass and they pulled a don't care.
 
DaReaperMan said:


Rules​

  • Speed is Equalized
  • Both are at their peak (Ben is in control of Alien X)
  • Battle takes place in the Frozen Lake on Midgard
  • Start 5 meters away
  • Mimir has prior knowledge on Alien X's... everything.
  • Gabagool.

Votes​

Standard T-Pose: 4

Standard Head Pose: 4

Inconclusive: 0
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Also I pulled a fairly fast one before I went to bed and everything happened, so.......
 
What even was the counter argument? Was asleep.
 
Lort15 said:
Anyways, I'm leaning to Alien X
Reasons:
  • Alien X has immortality type 9 that allows them to exist outside of the cosmology which is 1-B (26D) Kratos or Mimir has no way to hit personalities from that range, they are Low 1-C (5D) and Alien X demonstrated the ability to use powers without said body as shown when they nullified Omnitrix and it's powers and said they can save dinosaurs from extinction without limbs
  • Alien X would just hit them with EE, Serena and Bellicus are the personalities of the Alien X that they are also affected by SBA mindset, they can make quick decisions when they are in serious situations as shown with Galactic Gladiator, Serena and Bellicus are also decisive enough to create a new universe quickly also another proof that them absorbing the Annihilarrgh's energy wave without said body actually, if they weren't influced by SBA mindset Serena and Bellicus wouldn't care about the vs because the vs wouldn't affect them as well let's see what can Alien X do if he is in Ben's control


Alien X under Ben Tennyson's control:

Ben Tennyson wouldn't kill opponents unlike other Celestialsapiens like Bellicus and Serena wanting to erase Paradox from the existence or Kevin stating that Celestialsapiens would blink and they would've be gone, Ben's standart move with Alien X is telekinesis, body puppetry, flight, attack reflection and many more except EE.
Alien X has Immeasurable LS Mimir doesn't has that but Kratos has Immeasurable LS however lifting a universe with 26 dimensional aspects should be superior to lifting a universe/realm with 5 dimensional ascepts from my knowledge otherwise that would be NLF to assume that anyone with Imme LS can lift any universe even if they have Infinite higher dimensions. So Ben can restrain both, Ben can use body puppetry to affect them yes Kratos has resistance to Body Puppetry but all of Alien X's haxes are 26D so that would ignore his resistance, i think this is a stomp in Alien X's favor, Kratos and Mimir have no way to interact or affect Alien X's pocket dimension cuz of lacking range
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@Planck69

DaReaperMan said:
My preparation to make the match possible after the future CRT has paid off!

As the Great Sun Tzu once said, in his book, The Art of War: Skill Issue ~ lol
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He also said: Ban this ***** off the wiki
 
Anyways, ya'll want me to make a match where all three have control?

And then repeat that twice just using Kratos' profile instead of Mimir's?
 
Lort15 said:
Uh how would that help? Regardless of who is controlling Alien X still stomps
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"How does that help? This thing that has a history of standing there t-posing for Eons will--"

Give me a few minutes, I'm gonna go into that Cosmic Gladiator fight and count how many punches are thrown(times Kratos gibs) before AX actually does something.
 
DaReaperMan said:
Anyways, ya'll want me to make a match where all three have control?

And then repeat that twice just using Kratos' profile instead of Mimir's?
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Kratos is restricted to Norse here, and wouldn't really have to be if it were just his own profile (granting him access to his thought based stuff). Also, a large chunk of the win con (EE) is about to be null and void tomorrow.

Reiner04 said:
@Planck69


He also said: Ban this ***** off the wiki
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Smurf isn't a thing anymore apparently so Alien X doesn't really have 26-D anything. So at the very least that Body Puppetry argument can go.
 
Hellformer said:
I'm pretty sure Alien X doesn't do debate stuff anymore after Ben got complete control. So he can simply restrain with a thought.
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But DOES he is the question. Cause I lost count after 20.

Ya'll should formulate a Standard Tactics section for Alien X.

Probably something like when Ben is in constrol, when the two dickheads are in control, and when they all have some form of control.
 
Planck69 said:
Kratos is restricted to Norse here, and wouldn't really have to be if it were just his own profile (granting him access to his thought based stuff). Also, a large chunk of the win con (EE) is about to be null and void tomorrow.
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Then we can have MORE Kratos vs Alien X fights! One for every tier 1 Key!
 
DaReaperMan said:
But DOES he is the question. Cause I lost count after 20.

Ya'll should formulate a Standard Tactics section for Alien X.

Probably something like when Ben is in constrol, when the two dickheads are in control, and when they all have some form of control.
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Telekinetic restrain was his go to move after Ben's control. And then he can bring mimir close to him then crumble him to non existence.
 
Hellformer said:
Telekinetic restrain was his go to move after Ben's control. And then he can bring mimir close to him then crumble him to non existence.
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And how fast did it take? Give me an overview of matters, because I know Cosmic Gladiator was a special case.
 
DaReaperMan said:
"How does that help? This thing that has a history of standing there t-posing for Eons will--"
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DaReaperMan said:
Give me a few minutes, I'm gonna go into that Cosmic Gladiator fight and count how many punches are thrown(times Kratos gibs) before AX actually does something.
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Me when bros aren't affeccted by sba mindset in that vs literally they didn't even care the vs in there man but this is different, if they want to do something they do it immediately like when they recreated the universe, because of SBA they want to defeat Kratos literally so they won't wait for like in the galactic gladiator fight
 
Lort15 said:
Me when bros aren't affeccted by sba mindset in that vs literally they didn't even care the vs in there man but this is different, if they want to do something they do it immediately like when they recreated the universe,
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You realize that took until the entire thing was destroyed, right?

Like, literally, Alien X stood there for like thirty seconds while the universe was being destroyed and only recreated it after it was nuked. Alien X has unlimited Cosmic Power, he could have Aladdin Genie'd that shit.
Lort15 said:
because of SBA they want to defeat Kratos literally so they won't wait for like in the galactic gladiator fight
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They flapped their jaws at Paradox. That constitutes as "too long of a wait".
 
Reiner04 said:
Alien X doesn't creates his body, atleast its not combatt applicable. Tho, he can function without body with his mind space alone.
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The problem is I don't recall him fighting like that.
 
DaReaperMan said:
Forgive me if I missed a vote or two, as it stands I don't THINK Ben would TK restrain fast enough? Shit usually takes a moment or two and that's enough to lose the quick draw
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Ben's TK is ikstantabeus, he just needs to think.
And yeah, like everyone else said, we've seen that when they do actually care, they ignore Ben, and it doesn't matter at all that they (in theory) take a second or two, as Ben would still be able to restrain him or not be affected thanks to their immortality
 
Reiner04 said:
Alien X doesn't creates his body, atleast its not combatt applicable. Tho, he can function without body with his mind space alone.
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 So Kratos can't reach him while Alien X can attack from outside 26-dimensional space? This seems like it would be a stomp for Alien X against Mimir and this key of Kratos.
Hellformer said:
"Too long" bro how fast does mimir use his wincons?
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Functionally, it's Kratos fighting here, and in his Norse keys, his fastest ones are gesture based.
 
Lort15 said:
Me when bros aren't affeccted by sba mindset in that vs literally they didn't even care the vs in there man but this is different, if they want to do something they do it immediately like when they recreated the universe, because of SBA they want to defeat Kratos literally so they won't wait for like in the galactic gladiator fight
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Abusing SBA like non other aren't we.

DaReaperMan said:
The problem is I don't recall him fighting like that.
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His functionality is thinking. As long as he thinks, its get done. Body should be non factor as was seen during when they made omnitrix non functional.
 
GeneralSol16 said:
Ben's TK is ikstantabeus, he just needs to think.
And yeah, like everyone else said, we've seen that when they do actually care, they ignore Ben, and it doesn't matter at all that they (in theory) take a second or two, as Ben would still be able to restrain him or not be affected thanks to their immortality
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English, please? Because the scan I was given for Ben was AX using gestures for that shit.
 
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