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Yet another Hoyoverse cosmology downgrade

korea1234 said:
It's dawn in Korea, so maybe I was too tired to understand what you said. Finally, let me ask: Why is it considered a separate world when both sugar and candy are visible in that space?
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because as you can see, it can be used to travel across different dimensions something you cant do with alien space.
 
PedjaTarzan said:
because as you can see, it can be used to travel across different dimensions something you cant do with alien space.
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First, I'll sleep on it and check your message again when I wake up.
This was my first long debate about Hoyoverse, and arguing in the early hours was a mistake. It's 3 a.m. here right now.

If I caused you any discomfort, I want to apologize. Sorry.
 
Aight nah, can staff already step in? CRTs are supposed to have a whole ass i dunno 3 months or so cool down period, it's barely the end of january and there were already 3 whole ass CRTs for the Hoyoverse
 
Alright so i am done reading the thread, took me a while since i was busy with my own verse too.

Here is my opinion on the thread;

  • The Sea of Quanta contains an infinite number of bubble worlds, each of which is larger than the one preceding it. Consequently, even if a single bubble contains insignificant higher-dimensional spaces, the overall size of the Sea of Quanta would be infinitely larger than that (0.1*infinite) making it naturally significant in scale. Now how far in Tier 1? Depending on how many dimensions each bubble has.
  • Another point I noticed is that the bubble universes within the Sea of Quanta follow Quantum Mechanics. Upon reviewing the scans in the cosmology blog, I found that the splitting and merging of parallel universes follows the Many-Worlds Interpretation at a quantum level, which is considered Tier 1 by default under our current standards. Note that not all of MWI is Tier 1 but only those whose branching/splitting is occuring due to quantum uncertainity which seems to be the case here.
  • To add to the point above, one scan indicates that at every moment or point in time, infinite universes are being created within HSR. This also qualifies for Tier 1 by default.
This is all the opinion i have regarding Tier 1 of HSR.
 
Reiner04 said:
The Sea of Quanta contains an infinite number of bubble worlds
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Before getting to the main point, let me clarify that I don't disagree with your opinion. What I want to say is that there are some minor inaccuracies in the reference images on the cosmology page. To be precise, several images related to the ‘Sea of Quanta’ contain translation errors.

Please refer to the link.
 
Reiner04 said:
Alright so i am done reading the thread, took me a while since i was busy with my own verse too.

Here is my opinion on the thread;

  • The Sea of Quanta contains an infinite number of bubble worlds, each of which is larger than the one preceding it. Consequently, even if a single bubble contains insignificant higher-dimensional spaces, the overall size of the Sea of Quanta would be infinitely larger than that (0.1*infinite) making it naturally significant in scale. Now how far in Tier 1? Depending on how many dimensions each bubble has.
  • Another point I noticed is that the bubble universes within the Sea of Quanta follow Quantum Mechanics. Upon reviewing the scans in the cosmology blog, I found that the splitting and merging of parallel universes follows the Many-Worlds Interpretation at a quantum level, which is considered Tier 1 by default under our current standards. Note that not all of MWI is Tier 1 but only those whose branching/splitting is occuring due to quantum uncertainity which seems to be the case here.
  • To add to the point above, one scan indicates that at every moment or point in time, infinite universes are being created within HSR. This also qualifies for Tier 1 by default.
This is all the opinion i have regarding Tier 1 of HSR.
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I should mention that I’m fine with Low 1-C SoQ and IT too btw.

I js don’t believe anyone actually fully scales to it.
 
Reiner04 said:
Alright so i am done reading the thread, took me a while since i was busy with my own verse too.

Here is my opinion on the thread;

  • The Sea of Quanta contains an infinite number of bubble worlds, each of which is larger than the one preceding it. Consequently, even if a single bubble contains insignificant higher-dimensional spaces, the overall size of the Sea of Quanta would be infinitely larger than that (0.1*infinite) making it naturally significant in scale. Now how far in Tier 1? Depending on how many dimensions each bubble has.
  • Another point I noticed is that the bubble universes within the Sea of Quanta follow Quantum Mechanics. Upon reviewing the scans in the cosmology blog, I found that the splitting and merging of parallel universes follows the Many-Worlds Interpretation at a quantum level, which is considered Tier 1 by default under our current standards. Note that not all of MWI is Tier 1 but only those whose branching/splitting is occuring due to quantum uncertainity which seems to be the case here.
  • To add to the point above, one scan indicates that at every moment or point in time, infinite universes are being created within HSR. This also qualifies for Tier 1 by default.
This is all the opinion i have regarding Tier 1 of HSR.
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So you disagree with the thread?
 
So thats 1 staff for disagree, i dont wanna speak for vietthai (they said 5D tree but doesnt mean they agree or disagree) so 2 more staff votes?
 
Tbf, Reiner reason for 5D agreement is different from me. My reason is because the branchs are timelines so the Tree is actually a container and separator of those timelines and it is infinite so yeah it is still 5D

Also iirc Otto already said the Tree and the Sea is higher-dimensional concept, in comparison to the world they are living in which is 4D space-time or something like that and Ryusuke higher-dimension statement

I just don't want to touch scaling because i never play HSR
 
Vietthai96 said:
Tbf, Reiner reason for 5D agreement is different from me. My reason is because the branchs are timelines so the Tree is actually a container and separator of those timelines and it is infinite so yeah it is still 5D

Also iirc Otto already said the Tree and the Sea is higher-dimensional concept, in comparison to the world they are living in which is 4D space-time or something like that and Ryusuke higher-dimension statement

I just don't want to touch scaling because i never play HSR
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Do you have any thoughts on Reiner’s reasoning?
 
CastoriceTheFifth said:
Do you have any thoughts on Reiner’s reasoning?
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That just how time work, using data server as metaphorical comparison. Since by default, the term universe only mean 3D universe without time, unless space-time is mentioned alongside the universe, or context support the notion of space-time being involved

There are issues with the Universe in context too
1. If the universe in context referring to leaf world or bubble world, those are insignificant size worlds which will not really get you a tier
2. If the universe referring to the Tree and the Sea, just 4D due to how time work
 
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