Battle of the Weakened | Alastor vs. Alien X (Reboot) [2-4-0]

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Both are weakened in a sense that Alastor is in his third key and Alien X is from Reboot. Both are Low 5-B, speed is equalized.

Facts:

• Alien X upscales from 5.84 Zettatons, Alastor upscales from 917.52 Exatons, making Alien X 6.635x stronger (although Alastor arguably upscales from his value to a greater extent, making the gap less)
  • Reminder: one-shot difference is 8x.
• Alien X scales has physical LS advantage (which doesn't matter much since Alastor is not into H2H) as he has Class G vs. Alastor's Class K.
• Alastor's tentacles vary from 1 Metric Ton to 6 Metric Tons, while Alien X scales to 2.3 Metric Tons, so advantage varies on the amount of tentacles, but Alastor has an edge in 2/3 scenarios.
• Alastor has Travel Speed advantage by scaling to Mach 3.285, while Alien X seems to not have any notable travel speed scaling.
• Alastor is smarter and more skilled.

Let the slaughter begin!​

Radio Demon gets screams of an alien to broadcast: 2 (@TheOrangeGuy09, @Anonymous_Learner)
Alien X tastes a deer meat for the first time: 4 (@Ultimate-Rex1, @DemonicDude, @Reiner04, @Hellformer)
REAL Alien X comes and one-shots both via mere presence: 0

 

[Lort15]

Why match with the fodder version of x anyway uh X has Telekinesis and Decay also a good mobility with flight and instant teleport and he is 6X stronger than alastor which is close to one shot level what is Alastor doing against these?

 

[Lort15]

Wait speed wasn't equalized? Alastor stomps/blitzes then

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Why match with the fodder version of x

HH is currently at Tier 5 MUs strike, so he got in-handy

anyway uh X has Telekinesis and Decay also a good mobility with flight and instant teleport and he is 6X stronger than alastor which is close to one shot level what is Alastor doing against these?

Alastor can use teleportation to get out of TK, he is also pretty agile with his Acrobatics and Surface Scaling so they are probably even matched in terms of mobility here. Alien X is massively stronger, but Alastor canonically mid diffed much stronger Vox in a fight via skill (this will be part of his future skill section):

Even when Vox gained 100% approval and became the strongest Sinner, thus significantly exceeding Alastor in raw power at that period of time, Alastor was able to gain upper ground by constantly attacking him and giving no time to respite, eventually overwhelming him and forcing the latter to call Shok.wav to avoid loss, with Alastor himself explicitly mocking him specifcally for that.

Wait speed wasn't equalized?

Uhhhhhhhh I'm just stupid, will fix that rq
How the heck is Reboot Alien X not even FTL, he was made so dirty damn

 

[Lort15]

HH is currently at Tier 5 MUs strike, so he got in-handy

I was surprised how the verse got tier 5

Alastor can use teleportation to get out of TK, he is also pretty agile with his Acrobatics and Surface Scaling so they are probably even matched in terms of mobility here. Alien X is massively stronger, but Alastor canonically mid diffed much stronger Vox in a fight via skill (this will be part of his future skill section):

Hmm the only wincon available is Deconstruction and paralysis indicument then?

Uhhhhhhhh I'm just stupid, will fix that rq
How the heck is Reboot Alien X not even FTL, he was made so dirty damn

Reboot is jst fodder man blud doesn't even scales to omni kix XLR8 who has infinite speed

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

In my opinion, it's stomp in favor of Alastor.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Alien X has a horrible in-character.

Unfortunately, Alastor cannot deal with getting lol Class G'd by TK until he's eating dirt or is disintegrated.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

I was surprised how the verse got tier 5

Season 2 cooked hard, otherwise it was really going into Tier 9 for 99% lmao (well, that can still happen if @Eden_Warlock99 succeeds in her CRT, but we'll see ig)

Hmm the only wincon available is Deconstruction and paralysis indicument then?

Or landing a good hit, if he manages

Reboot is jst fodder man blud doesn't even scales to omni kix XLR8 who has infinite speed

In my opinion, it's stomp in favor of Alastor.

Unfortunately, Alastor cannot deal with getting lol Class G'd by TK until he's eating dirt or is disintegrated.

TK is not exactly powernull, so Al can teleport out to get free methinks

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

Ok:

• Alien x start with
  • Cutting Alastor and paralyzing him
  • Wipe him out of existence
• Alastor start with
  • Summoning his pets
  • H2h combat
  • Use his tentacles

So:
I think Alien X, would win due to he would wipe Alastor from existence or paralyzing him

In my opinion, it's stomp in favor of Alastor.

I'm still think Alastor would win via charisma

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

H2h combat

Al never does that, he usually spams AoE and keeps distance unless the opponent is vulnerable to be deal H2H

I think Alien X, would win due to he would wipe Alastor from existence or paralyzing him

Counted

I'm still think Alastor would win via charisma

Truth nuke

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

Al never does that, he usually spams AoE and keeps distance unless the opponent is vulnerable to be deal H2H

I meant he use his physical attacks sometimes

 

[Lort15]

Also Alien L has invisible barrier creation that can help to not take Attacks from Alastor

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

following

 

[DemonicDude]

HH is currently at Tier 5 MUs strike, so he got in-handy

Alastor can use teleportation

how much teleportation does he use because Alien X spams teleportation almost every few seconds. Infact that's his entire combat.

to get out of TK, he is also pretty agile with his Acrobatics and Surface Scaling ):

How is acrobatics supposed to get you out of Telekenisis ? by someone who has Class G and superior AP ?
if both spams shit tons of Teleportation then yes.

• Alastor is smarter and more skilled.

Smarter yes
Skilled......eh

alright if you wanna skill argument for both (mainly combat skill)

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

how much teleportation does he use because Alien X spams teleportation almost every few seconds. Infact that's his entire combat.

That’s like his main way of dodging when he is not casual, which he is not when weakened.

How is acrobatics supposed to get you out of Telekenisis ?

I never said that? I just said he has good mobility opportunities too.

alright if you wanna skill argument for both (mainly combat skill)

I mean, Alastor mid diffed a much stronger guy than him via pure skill as I explained above, while Alien X’s page says he is unexperienced with his powers.

 

[DemonicDude]

That’s like his main way of dodging when he is not casual, which he is not when weakened.

Alastor can get out but that would be due to Alastor's teleportation.

I never said that? I just said he has good mobility opportunities too.

yes he does, i do agree but in a match up like this you have alien x full flight user and using his abilities he has some "showings".

(that has travelled the Omniverse of Ben 10 in several dozen timelines using this "just" for reference only, the Omniverse is really big place. (This should give him somewhat of the combat experience at the very least)


Wouldn't such adventures in vast cosmos gives him a little bit more of a flight advantage based off of his arduous quest, not to mention skills of those Ben Tennysons that has died), as the battle start's taking more of a shape.

he is unexperienced with his powers.

His page says
"somewhat inexperienced with his powers"

While he has not shown full extent of his abilities like.... but this type of terrafomation or reality warping kinda does not matter for this battle

Because of this:

After all, he is a Ben Tennyson, an adult Ben Tennyson too. (His intelligence and experience would upscale from his 10 year old self)

 

[ShionAH]

Cutting Alastor and paralyzing him

Alastor dodges this quite easily, no? It has no AoE

Wipe him out of existence

Who tf said Alien X starts with EE, not even the canon version does that? And the proof is erasing a random cardboard box?? Don’t make me laugh

Alastor has a laughable intellect and skill gap, should be able to rip Alien X apart ot hold him down with his tentacles which is in character for him, can get out of TK with his teleportation

 

[DemonicDude]

can someone post skill feats of Alastor ? (ones that make a massive skill GAP)

 

[ShionAH]

can someone post skill feats of Alastor ?

Stated to be directly trained and good in combat

Spent around 70 years killing and hunting down the strongest overlords in Hell that have been fighting and dominating the hellscape for over a millennia

Could hold his own and even outpace Adam an archangel (can one shot Al) just through sheer skill and only losing when the first man used his holy light and started getting serious

Held his own against the Vees (powerful experienced versatile overlords) in a 1v3 while weakened

Defeated %100 Vox while weakened despite being FAR weaker just through his wits and skills

I never fully watched the reboot but last time I checked Alien X here was struggling against people literally weaker than him

 

[DemonicDude]

Stated to be directly trained and good in combat

Alright expected. How much ?

Spent around 70 years killing and hunting down the strongest overlords in Hell that have been fighting and dominating the hellscape for over a millennia

Good feat, depends on how skills those people are for comparsion

Could hold his own and even outpace Adam an archangel (can one shot Al) just through sheer skill and only losing when the first man used his holy light and started getting serious

Held his own against the Vees (powerful experienced versatile overlords) in a 1v3 while weakened

Defeated %100 Vox while weakened despite being FAR weaker just through his wits and skills

Good feats much respected and now comes down to specific, styles and combat

I never fully watched the reboot but last time I checked Alien X here was struggling against people literally weaker than him

(you never fully read the profiles, all those alternate Ben Tennysons wroked together to one by one steal his omnitrices which made him weak other than that he was able to whoop 5 plus Ben tennysons across various timelines for siginificant period of time)

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Since the argument here is there is skill gap, i'll start as Adult Ben Ben Tennyson the user of Alien X took on 5 ben tennysons. Ben has:

Experience and Intelligence:

• Warlord of the Galaxy Vilgax who has been a warlord conquering multiple planets and has 3000 years of expierence as you can see failed to break of his crystals.
• He defeated Warlord of the Galaxy Vilgax
• Also Ben kept up with Agent Six who is an agent of Providence Organization and given the title of "Sixth deadliest man on Earth" and swords user
• Stayed awake for 24 hours straight to save the city from every villain in Ben 24.
• Ben he was able to defeat and outsmart Hex who is a 10,000 year old magican with vast knowledgable of dimensional portals, magic and spells 0:18 (who was amplified by dozens of magic books during their battle but Ben outsmarted him multiple times despite his magic amplifications and defeat him)

For reference on how good Vilgax is:

Vilgax himself designed the co- creator of the Omntrix device that transform you into millions of aliens (Supergenius intelligence),
Conqueror of 10 planets, Basically top 5 people on Earth like Agent Six can't defeat Ben along with the villain High Override the destroyer and conqueror of planets who leads his army to conquer planets, lead to destruction of his own species planet (and has conquered galaxies) everyone on Fulmas planet are soldiers with natural warrior instinct as they are constantly battling with other planets & conquering them, yet was defeated by Ben and has all the resistances mentioned on Reboot Ben's profile. Ben scales above all previous aliens as the sole purpose of his introduction was to face "cosmic threats". infact Vilgax fears Fulmini army and describe them as the most powerful empire in cosmos and vilgax failed against them in combat.

Feats:

• Defeated Vilgax (intergalactic war lord)
• Defeated Alien V.
• Ben was not hypnotized from Zombobo's hypno machine.
• Broke free from the illusion world of Zombozo by concentrating enough.
• Defeated High Override and overcame his mind control (Who was amplified by the entire Fulmini army)
• Resisted King Koil's Hypnosis.
• Defeated many wrestlers during a wrestling tournament and held his own against Iron Kyle.
• Ben on consisent bases has defeated (1 vs 3) opponents at the same time
  Defeated Vilgax and the Weatherheads at the same time (1 vs 3 fight) even tanked their most powerful attack and was able to harm Kraab and SixSix (In a 2 vs 1) bounty hunter fight.

Ben because he has already defeated Stats Amped users and usually defeated people in 1 vs multiple scenerio. He has Supernatural Willpower.


Now that I've presented you all with this after I saw it being said in this thread that there is "massive skill GAP"

Everyone who participated in this thread whether it is in a form of liking someone's comment or by actually analyzing and voting. Read all of these be honest and whichever side you believe can win if you have sufficient counter argument then go ahead.

Much love- Demonic out

 

[Lort15]

Who tf said Alien X starts with EE, not even the canon version does that? And the proof is erasing a random cardboard box?? Don’t make me laugh

This AX doesn't have EE it's deconstruction which is in his character he used it 2 times in the movie the one used against Max and the Box he has both way one with Projectile based one with Thought also canon version starts with EE in the battle due SBA but that isn't relevant here.

Alastor has a laughable intellect and skill gap, should be able to rip Alien X apart ot hold him down with his tentacles which is in character for him, can get out of TK with his teleportation

Huh i don't think he will be able apart him cuz both have Class G and X has higher durability

 

[ShionAH]

This AX doesn't have EE it's deconstruction which is in his character he used it 2 times in the movie the one used against Max and the Box

Using it once to erase a box and then once to stop Max doesn’t mean its a starting move let alone something he does consistently. Plus what he did against Max is easily far less lethal.

he has both way one with Projectile based one with Thought also canon version starts with EE in the battle due SBA but that isn't relevant here.

No he doesnt, we have discussed this SEVERAL times and SEVERAL mods rejected the idea. Canon Alien X has NEVER and will NEVER start with EE unless bloodlusted.

Huh i don't think he will be able apart him cuz both have Class G and X has higher durability

A SINGLE tentacle is Alien Xs lifting strenght and he uses a BUNCH so yeah he could

I will answer the skill arguments probably by searching for anti feats

 

[Lort15]

Using it once to erase a box and then once to stop Max doesn’t mean its a starting move let alone something he does consistently. Plus what he did against Max is easily far less lethal.

I don't think it's been said a starter move for a general vs but like 2-3 also

No he doesnt, we have discussed this SEVERAL times and SEVERAL mods rejected the idea. Canon Alien X has NEVER and will NEVER start with EE unless bloodlusted.

Nah man ı've read the old debates literally Reiner proved that he uses EE in the start because of Serena and Bellicus, If the control was given to Ben i would agree he wouldn't start with EE cuz Ben wouldn't kill, but SBA makes three of them go for win, Serena and Bellicus wouldn't give a shit to Ben's decision they would outvote him Ben's vote isn't even needed SBA makes them go for win and they are willing to kill but still in character the only fight method we know for Serena and Bellicus is EE which they were about to use on Paradox they don't use TK or close combat or whatever Ben used in the show with AX

A SINGLE tentacle is Alien Xs lifting strenght and he uses a BUNCH so yeah he could

Hmm then he can get rid off that via teleporting before getting crushed or decay it when jt is about to hit him

I will answer the skill arguments probably by searching for anti feats

 

[DemonicDude]

Stop bringing classic Alien X into this thread (Stop derailing the thread).
If you have problem with alien X having existence erasure in a different tv show of a completely different version go make a content revision thread.

 

[Lort15]

Stop bringing classic Alien X into this thread (Stop derailing the thread).
If you have problem with alien X having existence erasure in a different tv show of a completely different version go make a content revision thread

Yeah sorry for derail

 

[Reiner04]

Guys be on topic. Classic has nothing to do with Reboot.

 

[ShionAH]

(you never fully read the profiles, all those alternate Ben Tennysons wroked together to one by one steal his omnitrices which made him weak other than that he was able to whoop 5 plus Ben tennysons across various timelines for siginificant period of time)

How strong were the Bens? Wait do you mean like human Ben?? Because this confuses me a little, how do we know he didnt just brute force them if it happened off screen

Since the argument here is there is skill gap, i'll start as Adult Ben Ben Tennyson the user of Alien X took on 5 ben tennysons. Ben has:

Again wdym took on? Did he stomp them, sneak them or was he weaker than them?

Anyways this super skilled Ben you are talking about got like no diffed by Vilgax despite being fourarms and having an advantage

• Warlord of the Galaxy Vilgax who has been a warlord conquering multiple planets and has 3000 years of expierence as you can see failed to break of his crystals.

Vilgax is so far above most planet he conquers it ain’t even funny, even then he is definitely far more skilled than Ben

Also Ben kept up with Agent Six who is an agent of Providence Organization and given the title of "Sixth deadliest man on Earth" and swords user

I guess this is sorta impressive? But from what I see he was kicking Ben’s ass despite not having any abilities

Stayed awake for 24 hours straight to save the city from every villain in Ben 24.

Cool that works

Ben he was able to defeat and outsmart Hex who is a 10,000 year old magican with vast knowledgable of dimensional portals, magic and spells 0:18 (who was amplified by dozens of magic books during their battle but Ben outsmarted him multiple times despite his magic amplifications and defeat him)

How did he outsmart him? If the guy is full magic intellect but zero actual tactician?

yet was defeated by Ben

What? The clip you showed is where Ben literally gets no diffed because he charges in like a dummy, unless I remember wrong they won through Vilgax taking them down while they are distracted :

Defeated Vilgax (intergalactic war lord)

Vilgax is consistently more skilled but loses due to power or arrogance

Defeated Alien V.

No idea who he is I can’t see the video

Ben was not hypnotized from Zombobo's hypno machine.

How is this a skill feat??

Broke free from the illusion world of Zombozo by concentrating enough.

not a skill feat either

• Defeated High Override and overcame his mind control (Who was amplified by the entire Fulmini army)

Where does he actually beat them through skill.

Ben on consisent bases has defeated (1 vs 3) opponents at the same time
Defeated Vilgax and the Weatherheads at the same time (1 vs 3 fight) even tanked their most powerful attack and was able to harm Kraab and SixSix (In a 2 vs 1) bounty hunter fight. Ben because he has already defeated Stats Amped users and usually defeated people in 1 vs multiple scenerio. He has Supernatural Willpower.

If he can “tank their most powerful attack” thats a power gap not skill…

Nah man ı've read the old debates literally Reiner proved that he uses EE in the start because of Serena and Bellicus, If the control was given to Ben i would agree he wouldn't start with EE cuz Ben wouldn't kill, but SBA makes three of them go for win, Serena and Bellicus wouldn't give a shit to Ben's decision they would outvote him Ben's vote isn't even needed SBA makes them go for win and they are willing to kill but still in character the only fight method we know for Serena and Bellicus is EE which they were about to use on Paradox they don't use TK or close combat or whatever Ben used in the show with AX

They know who Paradox is and hate his guts, he has never started with EE and never will. He lost several matches because of that before and when I debated it with Reiner eventually my point was accepted. That’s also exactly how Maxwell won their matchup before the upgrades. Whatever, stay on topic. I mentioned it once to show how exaggerated the comment was and you started a whole argument on it.

 

[Lort15]

They know who Paradox is and hate his guts, he has never started with EE and never will. He lost several matches because of that before and when I debated it with Reiner eventually my point was accepted. That’s also exactly how Maxwell won their matchup before the upgrades. Whatever, stay on topic. I mentioned it once to show how exaggerated the comment was and you started a whole argument on it.

and he won several matches with EE lol, that doesn't matter why you said this for this isn't relevant here regardless of the content in my defense i've answered a missinfo anyway i won't continue to my arguments in this crt this is my last message about OG AX EE let's continue to this in a OG Alien X vs next time

 

[ShionAH]

Bro wtf? Vilgax and Weatherheads literally stomp Ben 10 but then they turn on each other, how does this mean Ben can 1v2 them??

and he won several matches with EE lol

He shouldn’t have lol, it has never been his starting move and this was debated many times and it always ends with my stance. I mean Ben 10 is already super privileged so I am not shocked

, that doesn't matter why you said this for this isn't relevant here regardless of the content in my defense i've answered a missinfo anyway i won't continue to my arguments in this crt this is my last message about OG AX EE let's continue to this in a OG Alien X vs next time

Cornball

 

[DemonicDude]

and he won several matches with EE lol, that doesn't matter why you said this for this isn't relevant here regardless of the content in my defense i've answered a missinfo anyway i won't continue to my arguments in this crt this is my last message about OG AX EE let's continue to this in a OG Alien X vs next time

Stop brining Other tv show characters into this match

 

[Reiner04]

Alien X FRA.

 

[ShionAH]

I will hold off my vote for now in case DemonicDude can make a case for AXs skill, I want to be fair…

 

[DemonicDude]

i'm writing the response.

 

[Lort15]

i will wait for both arguments to finish

Stop brining Other tv show characters into this match

no offense but i've literally said "this is the last message" so no needed to say...

 

[DemonicDude]

Full Answers to everything as asked by the user ShionAH

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How strong were the Bens? Wait do you mean like human Ben?? Because this confuses me a little, how do we know he didnt just brute force them if it happened off screen

Ben tennysons who are alternate timeline versions of Reboot Ben

who are fully :transformed: as aliens and fighting alien x in 1 vs many battle and him killing one of them in an alternate timeline

Again wdym took on? Did he stomp them, sneak them or was he weaker than them?

"Battled" them.

Anyways this super skilled Ben you are talking about got like no diffed by Vilgax despite being fourarms and having an advantage

Vilgax > Four arms ? (We don't know how much stronger this alternate timeline version of vilgax is)
https://youtu.be/ZRKm0lzvF70?feature=shared

Vilgax is so far above most planet he conquers it ain’t even funny, even then he is definitely far more skilled than Ben

I guess this is sorta impressive? But from what I see he was kicking Ben’s ass despite not having any abilities

Because Ben's watch MALFUNCTIONED and was switching on and off from the star of this episode, DE-Transforming him back in the battle of a battle. Despite this malfunction he is able to take on sxith deadlist man on earth who is a sword user and fights aliens as part of secret agent service in such a condition

Cool that works

How did he outsmart him? If the guy is full magic intellect but zero actual tactician?

Zero tanction is not true. He's good, good on his own

He was able to go toe to toe Agent Six magic plus hand to hand


Given his talent, he made two copies of himself in one of his battles with ben

Has travelled to dimensions and faced mythical creatures such a monster who can consume all light. And has own to tame creatures from different planes of reality.

What? The clip you showed is where Ben literally gets no diffed because he charges in like a dummy, unless I remember wrong they won through Vilgax taking them down while they are distracted :

Ben was able to take on solders of fulmini army, albiet not as strong as their main leader.

No idea who he is

A plantaery threat. Who terraformd the entire Earth, Ben was able to trade blows with him. This villain was being stats amping himself too.

How is this a skill feat??

It's not. Impressive for a kid

Where does he actually beat them through skill.

High Override being army commander of fulimini a galaxy conquering threat should scale above his regular soliders. While it's not specficially a skill feat being able to take on interplertary warlord is impressive as these are warrior race.

If he can “tank their most powerful attack” thats a power gap not skill…

He's able to harm them, engage in full length battles with them. These are trained bounty hunters across the galaxy.

Bro wtf? Vilgax and Weatherheads literally stomp Ben 10 but then they turn on each other, how does this mean Ben can 1v2 them??

He can hold his own against two planetry threats. These are 3 fused together weatherheads at their strongest and Vilgax whose intelligence and combat speak for himself.
Taking advantage of momentary distraction and taking on two enemies from outerspace (prior to this he has never faced any enemy from space) is a impressive feat.


The users can now read decide for themselves, I have a class now, so i'm going off for some hours. Based off of everything i've provided regarding the feats, skill and intelligence of a child Ben tennyson and adult Ben Tennyson speak for itself.

I believe I have answered all the question with honestly, clips and replies. It took lots of times to answer but I appreciate and respect my opponents.

 

[Hellformer]

Alien L fra (based on DD's arguments)

 

[ShionAH]

I disagree with a bunch and don’t think any of this is above Alastor

Vilgax is always more skilled than Ben despite only having hands and like I said we saw this guy got stomped by Vilgax despite being Fourarms who I said has an advantage due to the well… four arms lol.

If Alien X vs Bens happens off screen and we have no idea how it went down or even the power difference I don’t think it’s anything more impressive than Alastor taking down so many heavy hitters overnight

He also wasn’t holding his own in most of these you mention? Vilgax and the Weatherheads low diff him, it wasn’t even close. Him killing the soldiers is not as impressive as you made it sound like with the whole deal with their leader neg diffing Ben lol (because he charged like a dum)

Malfunctioning or not he was getting destroyed by somene who has no abilities or powers I also doubt Ben is weaker

None of this is better than beating people far stronger, holding your own in a competent 1v3 WHILE WEAKENED, holding your own against beings completely on another level.

Alastor will prolly lose this as Ben 10 fans are majority and already voting while the debate is ongoing but I must say I can’t see Al losing this lol, Radio Demon FRA.

 

[DemonicDude]

I disagree with a bunch and don’t think any of this is above Alastor

I never once stated that all of these are above alastor.
These shows you that, interplanetary warlords, conquerors and destroyers of planets and leaders of armies along with bounty hunters throughout the galaxy.

My point, Ben Tennyson can hang in there and defeat such credible foes.

I don’t think it’s anything more impressive than Alastor taking down so many heavy hitters overnight

Leader of a technological moving planet who has enough intelligence to make such weapons and capable of conquering planets and doing invasions being defeated by Ben, who has his watch and DNA malfunctioned.

Then fine. it is not up to me convince you and make you vote for alien x.
You have every right in the world to believe in whatever you want. much respect goes to you if you are going to such lengths.

The original argument for this match.
as posted by opposition is this.

Alastor has a laughable intellect and skill gap, should be able to rip Alien X apart ot hold him down with his tentacles which is in character for him, can get out of TK with his teleportation

so if you believe that your character can grab a Teleportation SPAM user.




Then pin him down for extended period of time, one by one take his omnitrices and make alien x weak,

Then finally kill alien x despite him having six times less a attack potency is capable of ripping him apart.

Then fine you believe what you can.

 

[ShionAH]

Snip

I was under the assumption Alastor had access to Angelic Weapons, that’s the way to make this battle fair. Those scale above 42 Zettatons.

Making them 8 times stronger than Alien X, so yes I do believe Alastor can land one hit at him with the bunch of Angelic Weapons he acquired during S1 and win.

Without those I don’t think this fight is much fair, I mean it’s weakened Alastor with no arsenal against the strongest version of Alien X

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

Alastor dodges this quite easily, no? It has no AoE

Alien x can just stop him from move using his TK. Also their speed are equalized (except travel speed)

Who tf said Alien X starts with EE, not even the canon version does that? And the proof is erasing a random cardboard box?? Don’t make me laugh

He do something to Max, and he was about wipe Rath from existence. Also this isn't Classic Ben 10.

Alastor has a laughable intellect and skill gap, should be able to rip Alien X apart ot hold him down with his tentacles which is in character for him, can get out of TK with his teleportation

Same thing for Alien X.

I was under the assumption Alastor had access to Angelic Weapons, that’s the way to make this battle fair. Those scale above 42 Zettatons.

Making them 8 times stronger than Alien X, so yes I do believe Alastor can land one hit at him with the bunch of Angelic Weapons he acquired during S1 and win.

Without those I don’t think this fight is much fair, I mean it’s weakened Alastor with no arsenal against the strongest version of Alien X

This is 7.2× times stronger than X not 8×