hang on a minute the metaphysical aspects page says that no individual aspect can effect the other normally
That is a good point
I thought it was obvious, but would Arceus even use that against a really determined child?
Not immeditely anyway
Does the cm1 erasure affect every point in the timeline? If not the player can just turn back time
yes (it has low 1-C range and it's space-time manip upscales from dialga)
Tbh I don't even think Arceus would know about the Player (at least not right away, it's a 1-A entity still), but True Reset is still a valid BFR option.
The CM1 in question involves the very concept of time (Dialga), so...
I agree on that
Can it affect a HYPERtime tho smug face
the time manip has low 1-C range...
Abstract things like Concepts or Information are no longer tied to dimensionality iirc. This is why arguments like "5D resistance which overrides any layer of the 4D version of the hax" are not a thing anymore.
This is news to me, do you recall something to cite that policy?
Teto crying image
Nah they probably just forgot to edit the changes
They did lmao. You should ask to @Agnaa directly (in his DMs) if you can change that, as he's the one who brought that up.
Well, I think I'll stick with my vote. I mean, Arceus is resistant to Frisk's SI aura, but from the beginning it seemed like Frisk could win with their charm, even without the bonus aura, so I'm sticking with my vote for the same reason.
No, it's up to date.Game Sonic hax downgrade/adjustment
So metaphysical aspects (mind, soul, info, concept, etc) were clarified that they cant be higher dimensional smurf potency unless it was 1-A. I'm just proposing Sonic downgrades to match this, which has frequent usage of this. Here's what I found on Modern Sonic's profile where the...vsbattles.com
They did lmao. You should ask to @Agnaa directly (in his DMs) if you can change that, as he's the one who brought that up.
Info2 erasure which Arceus doesn't resist i guess
I need clarification, why are the SI based votes invalidated again?
Magic Bounce would make SI-based moves like Parting Short, Confide and Play Nice bounce back at the user, basically making ACTs null.
TRUE RESET, actually. That would act as a BFR that Arceus cannot oppose given it lacks Info 2.
DT comes from the Player who is outside Arceus' range, yuh.
It still needs to be done through Frisk regardless of whether or not the Player can do a true reset. This is a match between Arceus' avatar up against Frisk after all.
Except that isn't true? Nowhere it was said that Frisk is necessary to use it, heck the contrary actually, the Player can use the power at the end of the Pacifist Route where Frisk is basically disconnected from us at that point.
I meant it's Frisk controlled through the Player fighting Arceus. Not the Player themselves fighting Arceus. It's essentially like an Avatar fighting an Avatar.
This is also true, though there's still the fact that Frisk is still basically our Avatar as you said, meaning they do what we want them to do.
The player is controlling frisk,Frisk has barely any self will in undertale it just depends on what the player does and thats where it gets hard to answer what he will do
It's funny to read this, when Player is literally us.
If we consider us using TRUE RESET as canon, genocide route should be considered canon too. Imo best way to characterize Player is as someone who wants entertainment, and would do everything possible.Thinking about it the player did use the true reset at the end of the true pacifist even tho flowey was begging him not to do it,we might be evil
Do I take it as a vote for Frisk?
If you don't think that there is some problems with reasoning, yeah
Wouldn't the fight start with arceus 4 kilometers away and likely flying. How does Frisk reach?
Arceus would likely not be mentally effected due to sharing a not mind with the heart/original spirit and having type 4 acausality
Both are literally with Infinite/Immeasurable speeds here lol.
It still counts as BFR, though.
]
