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Yet another Hoyoverse cosmology downgrade


like the fact they still call universe imaginary tree and mentions they have leaves and branches and we still assume hsr takes place in one ******* branch is actually next level i swear.
 
im actually baffled that the same guy who went for 1-A hooh switched up his mind the moment he saw a blog made by a fan that self admitted that the blog might not be reliable sent by guy who wanted to make hypertimelines use that same ******* blog, this is some sahl level shit with his chat gpt scaling
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Honkai glazers when they learn that insulting the opponent isn't going to make their arguments any more valid.
 
Honkai glazers when they learn that insulting the opponent isn't going to make their arguments any more valid.
at least i dont tell i r*ped them off site, i have balls unlike you.
and what makes u think i went for the insult, its genuenly truth here yall saw an random ass blog and everyone went for it like its a ******* treasure man. thats whats actually crazy. but honestly the way u used wog and then dipped tells enough kek
 
at least i dont tell i r*ped them off site, i have balls unlike you.
and what makes u think i went for the insult, its genuenly truth here yall saw an random ass blog and everyone went for it like its a ******* treasure man. thats whats actually crazy. but honestly the way u used wog and then dipped tells enough kek
calm down bro
 
at least i dont tell i r*ped them off site, i have balls unlike you.
and what makes u think i went for the insult, its genuenly truth here yall saw an random ass blog and everyone went for it like its a ******* treasure man. thats whats actually crazy. but honestly the way u used wog and then dipped tells enough kek

Actual schizophrenic behavior.
 
like its funny when we post scans and context regarding certain stuff and we get hit with "no tracking" "illiterate" etc, somehow u get away with all that while u get butthurt that i told you something slightly offensive 🤣
 
like i would not even post these ss, but the fact you actually get away with insulting us collectively both on site and off site and then u complain when someone is slightly agressive towards you is actually next level bullshit, its genuenly sad to have this type of people on vsbw
wonder if your wonderful psw website is like that too
 
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Anyway, what’s the general consensus so far? If the debate is just stonewalling right now, then I guess both sides can wrap things up by writing a summary.
 
since like 90% of thread after nether popped out was about shit that doesnt have to do anything with the op my summary would be this
 
Havent read nether’s response i got busy so ill get to it in a bit, but aeons, specifically nous, are stated to be able to snip away at the tree’s branches to form THEIR own future. And HooH burned himself into the imaginary tree
I’ve been told that scan isn’t nearly as official as Void Nether portrayed it (which is good) so I retract that statement entirely.

As for Nous snipping branches, as Nova said this is in reference to them guiding the universe to their desired outcome so ifs more like they’re cutting off the ones that branch of their own branch (horrible wording ik, but look at a tree and see how the limbs splinter off into different large branches that themselves splinter off into many smaller branches). So it doesn’t really prove Nous can affect the tree.
As for HooH ig its fine? But I see that that wording is also a bit vague.
Anyway I’m mostly neutral now, though I don’t think the verse can drop below 5d, the argument should just be centered on whether Aeons can affect the WHOLE tree or not. (Which surely shouldn’t be hard to prove so I don’t know why there’s so much needless argumentation???)
 
(Which surely shouldn’t be hard to prove so I don’t know why there’s so much needless argumentation???)
I mean, what would be the proof for this lol. The only feats we have is them affecting the branch they are on. I dunno of any other feat where it says they can affect other branches unrelated to their current universe/timeline
 
Anyway, what’s the general consensus so far? If the debate is just stonewalling right now, then I guess both sides can wrap things up by writing a summary.
im not good with summaries, but everything I (here) and pedja have written on page 1 addresses everything in the OP. regarding what nether sent... its literally fanmade and has nothing to do with the OP. regarding what telomera sent hes literally just taking everything out of context which i disproved in page 3 (and here). regarding the dimensions, its outright stated that the bubble worlds have their own choice of inherited dimensions from the SoQ which is an 11 dimensional space (stated multiple times throughout multiple forms of media) so the bubble worlds dimensions cannot POSSIBLY refer to the SoQ or the IT in any way. they are formed as manifolds within higher dimensional spaces which should make the SoQ bare minimum 5D not counting the other 6 dimensions since apparently they arent important. dimensions can be infinite, this is from the same VN as the one with the explanation of the 11D space

edit: didnt realize i didnt link pedja's respond lol mb added it tho
 
I mean, what would be the proof for this lol. The only feats we have is them affecting the branch they are on. I dunno of any other feat where it says they can affect other branches unrelated to their current universe/timeline
Might just be cooked then 🙏 😭
They should make a rule of not attacking anything related to Hoyo on this wiki for a few months, they need a break after all this
 
Anyway, what’s the general consensus so far? If the debate is just stonewalling right now, then I guess both sides can wrap things up by writing a summary.
The general consensus is that the tree is 5D as stated by Vietthai. The CRT derailed to hell when people started yapping over an unofficial scan created by fans from the HSR Discord who self admitted that it was just their interpretation.
 
The general consensus is that the tree is 5D as stated by Vietthai. The CRT derailed to hell when people started yapping over an unofficial scan created by fans from the HSR Discord who self admitted that it was just their interpretation.
Guessing 5D tree but barely any1 scales to it??
 
im not good with summaries, but everything I (here) and pedja have written on page 1 addresses everything in the OP. regarding what nether sent... its literally fanmade and has nothing to do with the OP. regarding what telomera sent hes literally just taking everything out of context which i disproved in page 3 (and here). regarding the dimensions, its outright stated that the bubble worlds have their own choice of inherited dimensions from the SoQ which is an 11 dimensional space (stated multiple times throughout multiple forms of media) so the bubble worlds dimensions cannot POSSIBLY refer to the SoQ or the IT in any way. they are formed as manifolds within higher dimensional spaces which should make the SoQ bare minimum 5D not counting the other 6 dimensions since apparently they arent important. dimensions can be infinite, this is from the same VN as the one with the explanation of the 11D space

edit: didnt realize i didnt link pedja's respond lol mb added it tho
Are we gonna try to rebunk the 11d space every honkai crt from now on?
The debunk was pretty explicit and the supporters really didn’t manage to disprove anything. Perhaps the issue is in some language barrier? Because the word “inherit” literally means those worlds gets those dimensions from the Sea of Quanta. Ie, those compactified dimensions had to exist in that sea. Unless you have ANYTHING that says the dimensions exist in both a compactified and non compact state with the worlds choosing between both states (which is not suggested or shown in any way). There is really no way around this, you can’t inherit 1 mil from your parents if they don’t have 1 mil.
 
Are we gonna try to rebunk the 11d space every honkai crt from now on?
The debunk was pretty explicit and the supporters really didn’t manage to disprove anything. Perhaps the issue is in some language barrier? Because the word “inherit” literally means those worlds gets those dimensions from the Sea of Quanta. Ie, those compactified dimensions had to exist in that sea. Unless you have ANYTHING that says the dimensions exist in both a compactified and non compact state with the worlds choosing between both states (which is not suggested or shown in any way). There is really no way around this, you can’t inherit 1 mil from your parents if they don’t have 1 mil.
as for right now idc abt a rebunk and i dont see that happening either way, but it gives more context to the scans i sent. though i can see how it looks like a rebunk lol. it is literally stated that they choose the inheritence though but thats not important to this crt
 
Guessing 5D tree but barely any1 scales to it??
The crt isnt about who scales to tree or not. Even then, the entire argument about who scales to tree or not stems solely under the fact that people believed that the pom pom bot is an official scan. In reality its created by fans whose interpretation’s merit is the equivalent to the merit of some random bloke also thinking the verse’s cosmology is like Tier 0

if anything there were unironically more scans sent that proves that aeons and co dont cap at a single branch and refers to the entire tree as the universe while the opposition hasnt followed up with any scans.
 
if anything there were unironically more scans sent that proves that aeons and co dont cap at a single branch and refers to the entire tree as the universe while the opposition hasnt followed up with any scans.
What's the point for scans when my interpretation can just be inferred from things that can be seen in the scan you guys send.
 
The crt isnt about who scales to tree or not. Even then, the entire argument about who scales to tree or not stems solely under the fact that people believed that the pom pom bot is an official scan. In reality its created by fans whose interpretation’s merit is the equivalent to the merit of some random bloke also thinking the verse’s cosmology is like Tier 0
Damn blokes 🗿
if anything there were unironically more scans sent that proves that aeons and co dont cap at a single branch and refers to the entire tree as the universe while the opposition hasnt followed up with any scans.
Ahhh, makes sense now
 
What's the point for scans when my interpretation can just be inferred from things that can be seen in the scan you guys send.
the actual issue is that you never proved those interpetations, like u are not proving why universe isnt imaginary tree or why would they only be capped to one branch when we know entire setting of hsr is the entire imaginary tree
 
This... doesn't really disprove my point? Idk, it's just really damn weird. Cuz Nous definitely doesn't have to affect the whole Tree with that description, and Fuli also seems to only need to affect the past and present of their own branch.
Fuli’s actions are compared to soft sprigs merging with the trunk, and this reinforcement not happening would supposedly cause the entire tree to collapse on its own weight. I think thats enough to argue they scale to it tbh.
 
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