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Immeasurable Speed Honkai is the greatest Psyop of All Time

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Mbpoops said:
Well hes not physically moving through either timeflows he just isnt bound by the flow of time and can process multiple timeflows in his brain which i guess isnt technically a speed feat
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I mean, shouldn't that at least be a reaction speed feat?
 
Mbpoops said:
I guess another question, if Aeons keep THEIR immesurable speed, how would this affect bad end jingliu? Since she fights yaoshi
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So i guess to close this question off, would bad end jingliu be inf speed?
 
PedjaTarzan said:
honestly i didnt track a good part of thread (no dont tell me i cant track you baka i can im just lazy) what is even the speed proposal after the downgrade lol
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The proposal was i believe:

Beelabog (relative to seele): sub relativistic

Post abon deer: Ftl (relative to welt/superior to fu hua’s speed feat)

Nigh-aeon level: MFTL+ (phainon, elysia (correct me if im wrong), etc (i forgor))

Inf-immeasurable (immeasurable is still weird): imaginary entities (kiana, otto, kevin Inf, Aeons possibly immeasurable but most likely Inf)
 
Mbpoops said:
Inf-immeasurable (immeasurable is still weird): imaginary entities (kiana, otto, kevin Inf, Aeons possibly immeasurable but most likely Inf)
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immeasurable is genuenly only possible if its “within img space” but path space isnt like that, time is frozen there (bcs its not img space like the actual one) but yeah just stick to what eddisher explained
 
PedjaTarzan said:
immeasurable is genuenly only possible if its “within img space” but path space isnt like that, time is frozen there (bcs its not img space like the actual one) but yeah just stick to what eddisher explained
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Yea i agree with eddisher its pretty much the same i just added the hi3 stuff in case the scale around the aeons. If aeons exist in img space i would assume they would be immeasurable but im fine with inf aswell
 
EddisherSound said:
Sub Rel for the 4-Cs
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Sub-Rel is based on a feat where Seele is statuing Bronya, where she's activating moonlight butterfly. It's really not scalable without resulting in circular scaling.

If anything, 4-Cs should be like Supersonic with Bronya reacting to a bullet.

There's also them being capable of keeping pace with the engine of creation via it's sheer size, but not sure where that would land speed wise.
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
Sub-Rel is based on a feat where Seele is statuing Bronya, where she's activating moonlight butterfly. It's really not scalable without resulting in circular scaling.
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I think at the very least it should affect svarog and luka since svarog 1v5-7 the cast and was able to keep up with seele, luka being able to keep up with svarog in a 1v1 (though prolly arguable since he got low diffed)
 
Mbpoops said:
I think at the very least it should affect svarog and luka since svarog 1v5-7 the cast and was able to keep up with seele, luka being able to keep up with svarog in a 1v1 (though prolly arguable since he got low diffed)
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The others can keep pace with Svarog just fine so it leads back to circular scaling. And Luka is still comparable to Svarog which also leads to another problem.

Plus we don't really see if Svarog can react to Seele while she's performing her Butterfly move so it's hard to scale him that way.
 
I disagree with the thread personally. Though if there would be replacements to this, Honkaiverse falls under UES and the Low 1-C justification for Emanators in which they can destroy the cosmos is easily Infinite Speed.

It was shown here that the amount of stars are infinite when Irontomb destroyed the cosmos in an omnidirectional attack, Cyrene and the others before that manages to evade it by teleporting into Path Space, so either way this would be a combat speed feat and not attack speed given we could see the same with Zephyro against Welt, then this is basically the confirmation that the universe is infinite 17 seconds after.

Anyways, those that scale to Fu Hua (3-B) would just be MFTL+ through the Scepter, their 3-B literally comes from the Scepter through the same justification and pretty sure I stated it somewhere that if Immeasurable is nuked, they would scale to this speed value.
 
Voidnether said:
I disagree with the thread personally. Though if there would be replacements to this, Honkaiverse falls under UES and the Low 1-C justification for Emanators in which they can destroy the cosmos is easily Infinite Speed.

It was shown here that the amount of stars are infinite when Irontomb destroyed the cosmos in an omnidirectional attack, Cyrene and the others before that manages to evade it by teleporting into Path Space, so either way this would be a combat speed feat and not attack speed given we could see the same with Zephyro against Welt, then this is basically the confirmation that the universe is infinite 17 seconds after.

Anyways, those that scale to Fu Hua (3-B) would just be MFTL+ through the Scepter, their 3-B literally comes from the Scepter through the same justification and pretty sure I stated it somewhere that if Immeasurable is nuked, they would scale to this speed value.
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Yea I agree with this, though I do think Aeons would be immesurable speed BC they basically exist in IS, but that doesn't matter rn
 
KingOfDarknessBelow said:
Yea I agree with this, though I do think Aeons would be immesurable speed BC they basically exist in IS, but that doesn't matter rn
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I think if we count aeons for immeasurable we should give otto, kiana, and kevin possibly immeasurable or just immeasurable aswell for simular reasons but if not infinite speed is fine with me
 
The wiki should require more specifications for speed on character pages like AS and RA etc.. the lygus thing makes a lot more sense in the context of reaction speed than movement
 
Voidnether said:
I disagree with the thread personally. Though if there would be replacements to this, Honkaiverse falls under UES and the Low 1-C justification for Emanators in which they can destroy the cosmos is easily Infinite Speed.

It was shown here that the amount of stars are infinite when Irontomb destroyed the cosmos in an omnidirectional attack, Cyrene and the others before that manages to evade it by teleporting into Path Space, so either way this would be a combat speed feat and not attack speed given we could see the same with Zephyro against Welt, then this is basically the confirmation that the universe is infinite 17 seconds after.

Anyways, those that scale to Fu Hua (3-B) would just be MFTL+ through the Scepter, their 3-B literally comes from the Scepter through the same justification and pretty sure I stated it somewhere that if Immeasurable is nuked, they would scale to this speed value.
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This
 
I mught have dimentia idk if this was answered. So would bad end jingliu, welt zephyro, and bad end TB/Cyrene have infinite speed aswell? Jingliu fighting yaoshi, welt zephyro rupturing the cosmos, TB and cyrene freezing the cosmos (including genshin)
 
Mbpoops said:
I mught have dimentia idk if this was answered. So would bad end jingliu, welt zephyro, and bad end TB/Cyrene have infinite speed aswell? Jingliu fighting yaoshi, welt zephyro rupturing the cosmos, TB and cyrene freezing the cosmos (including genshin)
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Jingliu fighting Yaoshi didn't destroy the cosmos, so no, anyone that's capable of affecting the cosmos is Infinite Speed which is the Low 1-C justification
 
Voidnether said:
Jingliu fighting Yaoshi didn't destroy the cosmos, so no, anyone that's capable of affecting the cosmos is Infinite Speed which is the Low 1-C justification
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Ok was just curious since jingliu was fighting yaoshi who was inf speed but if not fine by me
 
CastoriceTheFifth said:
SO I WASNT TRIPPIN. UES LETS GO
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Only top tier characters that is comparable to Cyrene, Irontomb and up, though Kiana have antifeat iirc in case she also get scaled, her blast take time to reach Sa which is at the outer edge of the solar system
 
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