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My takes aren’t bad, there’s logic behind everything I say
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It a possibility not a standeredLow 1A Medaka Box
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Anyway we’re getting side tracked
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Generally confused about High 1A+ tiers seems just layered High 1ASaw this, thought of you guys
Umineko Cosmology
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I don’t think it’s supposed to make sense, I mean for starters High 1A+ can’t be transcended (unless by a tier 0) or layered.
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I know I just dont see how any realm that is not Sea of Oblivion can be argued for High 1A+. Tbf I am unsure if Type 1 realm can exist
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I agree
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I have some question
1. If High 1-A+ type 1 as all logical possibilities is a collection of all possible layers so type 2 as a logical space where encompasses all logical possibilities technically beyond the hierarchy?
2. Does Creator and theology detail including relationship with it have a reference from God in Divine Comedy? Is it a good reason to say that Creator is a singular god by default?
1. If High 1-A+ type 1 as all logical possibilities is a collection of all possible layers so type 2 as a logical space where encompasses all logical possibilities technically beyond the hierarchy?
2. Does Creator and theology detail including relationship with it have a reference from God in Divine Comedy? Is it a good reason to say that Creator is a singular god by default?
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For first question it is + itself beyond hierarchy
Type 2 > Type 1. But Type 2 doesn't transcend Type 1. So technically they are both beyond and unbound by hierarchies thus they don't have layers
Idk second question never read DC(Divine Comedy)
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Sadly, I'm expecting that having a reference from God in Divine Comedy may completely end the controversy about Creator being plural/singular but just forget it
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I wouldn't be surprised since Umineko is big inspiration from Divine Comedy
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Hmm... I think, and that's a big if, that while Umineko leans into Christian lore (there's Santa, who is a great wizard, Jesus image as a God, and such), in general Creator is his own thing.
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Yeah, if Creator will be tier 0, it will be in spite of the connection to Divine Comedy (which is flimsy as hell)
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The tier 0 of the Creatorhood is completely and utterly unrelated to Dante's work.
Anyways, currently reading Taraimawashi-hen (36.96% of Higurashi Hou cleared)
Anyways, currently reading Taraimawashi-hen (36.96% of Higurashi Hou cleared)
ExcelsisBerny
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It is completely irrelevant. Divine Comedy's framework is limited to Beatrice's cosmology. 07th Expansion works on a Buddhist/Hinduist framework.
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No, Shion is actually tier 0 fr
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I agree
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Started Yoigoshi-hen.
50% of Higurashi Hou cleared.
50% of Higurashi Hou cleared.
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i'm thinking about Golden Truth stuff
If Ange in CoB created High 1-A Golden Truth and the existence of it sustains the existence of Golden land/Ushiromiya family and grant them the same nature as the truth itself which means EOS Ushiromiya should be High 1-A although they exists in 1-A realm (yes, it's smurf High 1-A) because their existence are sustained by High 1-A Golden Truth somehow similar to this.
If Ange in CoB created High 1-A Golden Truth and the existence of it sustains the existence of Golden land/Ushiromiya family and grant them the same nature as the truth itself which means EOS Ushiromiya should be High 1-A although they exists in 1-A realm (yes, it's smurf High 1-A) because their existence are sustained by High 1-A Golden Truth somehow similar to this.
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You should stop thinking (nah I'm joking).
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I heard that Logic manipulation was accepted and there is a page. Umineko has any notable feat of logic manipulation?
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Logic Manipulation
Logic Manipulation is the power to alter, overcome, or negate the fundamental principles of logic and rationality that govern existence and perception. This ability allows users to create scenarios that defy normal understanding, enabling contradictions or nonsensical reasoning to function...
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Game board shenanigans I guessI heard that Logic manipulation was accepted and there is a page. Umineko has any notable feat of logic manipulation?
Logic Manipulation
Logic Manipulation is the power to alter, overcome, or negate the fundamental principles of logic and rationality that govern existence and perception. This ability allows users to create scenarios that defy normal understanding, enabling contradictions or nonsensical reasoning to function...
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Truths are straight up this. Might actually be the verse with the most usage of this hax.I heard that Logic manipulation was accepted and there is a page. Umineko has any notable feat of logic manipulation?
Logic Manipulation
Logic Manipulation is the power to alter, overcome, or negate the fundamental principles of logic and rationality that govern existence and perception. This ability allows users to create scenarios that defy normal understanding, enabling contradictions or nonsensical reasoning to function...
ExcelsisBerny
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Yeah. Stuff like the modal quantum nature of the catboxes are explicitly logic manipulation. They can create para-consistent systems where logical contradiction can exist in reality.
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Well, this means Red Truth is based on the level of logic in question since it connected with the gameboard with logical nature from the catbox?
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Truths are far more fundamental than the catboxes. Everything in the verse that is not Oblivion is defined by truths.
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What kind of abilities would that grant?
ExcelsisBerny
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Logic manipulation, law manipulation, plot manipulation, every form of conceptual manipulation, and basically any ability you can think of at this point. Blue Truths allow you to literally do anything.
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Is that possible for non-tier 0 to have something more fundamental than logic which is the ground of possible effect? or I misunderstood this
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I like the sound of that
ExcelsisBerny
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Truths are the propositions or properties that allow nothingness to “exist” as 1 rather than as complete non-being, that is, 0.
They are not the "ground" of all beings. That is Oblivion.
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Oblivion H1-A+?
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Yeah. It is the zero from which Creator(s) simply “create” everything.
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And it’s a consistent idea that in order to create anything in reality it has to come from “0”
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