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Some of TCG Lore had statements of uncountable or infinite number of Duel Monster Spirit Worlds, But from what Gx showed there was 12 so I've always been unsure what to make of that
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Yu-Gi-Oh! General Discussion
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Yu-Gi-Oh! verse Cosmology Blog
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Would have to go through GX again to double check but there is some merit
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Actually, isn't the manga's cosmology different to the animes? The Duel Monster Spirit world and its lore is almost entirely from the anime and tcg, The manga for the most part doesn't have the tcg art and thus stories, The Duel Links game is the only thing that treats them as the same multiverse, but I feel that game itself is also a bit nebulous in canon (Though i'm not an expert on the game either so i could be very wrong), I've always been hung up on the Gx thing for me, it's what makes or breaks fitting the canons together in my opinion, I'd probably want someone to double-check the translations of the Yubel stuff because they talk about the 12 parallel universes a majority of the time so them mentioning 12 spatial dimensions for 1 statement seems confusing could it have just been a misnomer or mistranslation?
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It woul definitely be best to look into it thoroughly to double check, but from what i found while researching Yugi theye all part of the same multiverse/cosmology, just different universes. And Duel Links isnt non-canon, its meant to be secondary if not fully canon in the way that FGO is canon to the Fate series.
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Not sure if the 5ds manga helps, since it does alude or mention the anime stuff like BBT as a different timeline, and Yusei becoming zone as another
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@TsukasayaEmmaDCD
Regarding the “Ash vs Yugi Q&A Part 2” blog on db, how was Yugi's speed feat explained? Could you post the detailed section?
Regarding the “Ash vs Yugi Q&A Part 2” blog on db, how was Yugi's speed feat explained? Could you post the detailed section?
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Some argue Necrozma’s light illuminating Ultra Space is also infinite. If it is, Horakty does the same thing, except across an infinite multiverse. And the Light of Destruction does the same thing except across all of time. Speed would be equal if we used either standard.
Outside of that, Yusei’s Accel Synchro is probably a legitimate infinite speed feat, even under scrutiny.
To summarize all the Yu-Gi-Oh feats you could argue reach infinite speeds…
Horakhty moved an infinite set of universes and spread light across all of them. (Dark Side of Dimensions)
Kaiba processed information and dueled while ascending to a higher dimension. (Transcend Game, Ch. 2, Pg 11)
Atem beamed in from the Afterlife, travelling between it and the world of the living at the end of Dark Side of Dimensions.
At the dawn of creation, the Light of Destruction sent shock waves across countless eras of time that set innumerable calamitous events into motion. (GX, Episode 100)
Accel Synchro is described as transcending the laws of speed. Stardust Dragon and other Duel Monsters can keep up with Yusei’s bike as it’s achieving these speeds.
While utilizing Accel Synchro, Yusei harnessed ‘Momentum’ to such an extent that he entered a ‘world of speed’ beyond space and time. Within which infinite possibilities were contained, and from which he created an entirely new one. He specifically needs to be moving ‘beyond speed’ to enter this state. (5D’s, Episode 107)
Yusei can achieve an even greater version of this through Limit Over Accel Synchro. (5D’s, Episode 150)
Outside of that, Yusei’s Accel Synchro is probably a legitimate infinite speed feat, even under scrutiny.
To summarize all the Yu-Gi-Oh feats you could argue reach infinite speeds…
Horakhty moved an infinite set of universes and spread light across all of them. (Dark Side of Dimensions)
Kaiba processed information and dueled while ascending to a higher dimension. (Transcend Game, Ch. 2, Pg 11)
Atem beamed in from the Afterlife, travelling between it and the world of the living at the end of Dark Side of Dimensions.
At the dawn of creation, the Light of Destruction sent shock waves across countless eras of time that set innumerable calamitous events into motion. (GX, Episode 100)
Accel Synchro is described as transcending the laws of speed. Stardust Dragon and other Duel Monsters can keep up with Yusei’s bike as it’s achieving these speeds.
While utilizing Accel Synchro, Yusei harnessed ‘Momentum’ to such an extent that he entered a ‘world of speed’ beyond space and time. Within which infinite possibilities were contained, and from which he created an entirely new one. He specifically needs to be moving ‘beyond speed’ to enter this state. (5D’s, Episode 107)
Yusei can achieve an even greater version of this through Limit Over Accel Synchro. (5D’s, Episode 150)
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For certain card destruction effects, can we use the term “destruction manipulation”?
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I think it's a mix of Deconstruction and BFR?
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If you don't mind, could you go more in depth on how they specifically stated Yugi wins hax (even if a bit obvious), and how manga Yugi would still win?
If you don't mind, could you go more in depth on how they specifically stated Yugi wins hax (even if a bit obvious), and how manga Yugi would still win?
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Horokathy stuff is manga canon. Transcend game and DSOD basically provide the higher dimension arguments and Horokthy speed feat of her light shinning across the entire multiverse
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They say that Yugi basically resist most of Ashs hax. The only one that would give Yugi trouble is Toxic.
Yugi wins via God's being immune to all of Ashs hax, dark magician can help him get out of ultra space, yugi can use spell shattering arrow to fuse mammoth graveyard to sogaoleo. Swords of revealing light, time wizard and non of ashs pokemon resist soul manip aside from lucario. Also that yugi has alot of ways to redirect attacks
Yugi wins via God's being immune to all of Ashs hax, dark magician can help him get out of ultra space, yugi can use spell shattering arrow to fuse mammoth graveyard to sogaoleo. Swords of revealing light, time wizard and non of ashs pokemon resist soul manip aside from lucario. Also that yugi has alot of ways to redirect attacks
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I thought we would finally have lore about the Sacred Beasts, only for the staff to say they have no idea what they are lol
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I can look into this but do you know what it says before hand?
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Scan about the holactie light can travel across multiverse ?
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DSOD Horokthy shown to move the infinite universes
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Holactie not appeared in dsod and there no video show her doing that.
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I mean its heavily implied it is, given multiple guide books saying that shes the creator god, and the fact shes the one also doing.
最終章で、もう一人の遊戯が三枚の神のカードを束ねて、唯一創造神を出現させ、「闇の邪神」を滅ぼします。
“In the final chapter, another Yugi bundles three god cards, makes the only creator god appear, and destroys the "evil god of darkness". - Yu-Gi-Oh Bunkoban Edition Afterwords, Volume 14
しんすべやみ だいじゃ全てを破壊し尽くす闇の大邪たいこうゆいいつ神に対抗しうる唯一の力、それそうぞうはホルアクティが持つ創造の光。そうぞうしんవి創造神が放った光で、しょうめつクは消滅した。
"The one and only power capable of fighting back against the all-destroying dark god of malice is the light of creation possessed by Horacti. The light the creation god fired annihilated Zorc." -Millennium Book, pg 225
Given that dsod is the manga. no reason to doubt this. Im sure weekly has more.
最終章で、もう一人の遊戯が三枚の神のカードを束ねて、唯一創造神を出現させ、「闇の邪神」を滅ぼします。
“In the final chapter, another Yugi bundles three god cards, makes the only creator god appear, and destroys the "evil god of darkness". - Yu-Gi-Oh Bunkoban Edition Afterwords, Volume 14
しんすべやみ だいじゃ全てを破壊し尽くす闇の大邪たいこうゆいいつ神に対抗しうる唯一の力、それそうぞうはホルアクティが持つ創造の光。そうぞうしんవి創造神が放った光で、しょうめつクは消滅した。
"The one and only power capable of fighting back against the all-destroying dark god of malice is the light of creation possessed by Horacti. The light the creation god fired annihilated Zorc." -Millennium Book, pg 225
Given that dsod is the manga. no reason to doubt this. Im sure weekly has more.
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I don't think that is good answers because there no statement of Holactie create the world itself. I don't mind put yugi into 2-A as long there some statement in the show,databook or auhor about holactie create the world.
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It's literally right there. (The only creator god) (the light of creation) sure there other creators but none of them were giving the status of a creator god. It's pretty clear that horakhty is the ultimate force in yugioh
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still thinking that Yugi should be 2-A and immeasurable speed.
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Maybe there are several sets of multiverses? Kinda like what Final Fantasy does.
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no, but i heard that there are some infintie speed arguments in 5Ds from the Yugi vs Ash blog part 2 with Yusei reaching Delta Synchro Summoning which is beyond time or something.Would any of you need help with Zexal at any point? I'm currently watching through the anime and reading the manga, and have been really wanting to see the Zexal pages here get an upgrade in quality
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Oh. Well unfortunately I am far less experienced with 5Ds, Zexal is more my bread and butter. But if help isn’t needed then alright I guess
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Watching Zexal rn
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It’s peak, isn’t it
And also the possibilities for the pages are so vast! The numbers’ powers like Lucky Straight, Force Focus, Big Eye, etc. Zexal l/ll/lll. Chaos. The Numeron Code. And apparently there’s some good scaling from the World Duel Carnival arc where Dr Faker talks about Barian World (haven’t gotten to that episode yet, but I’m getting there)!
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It is. It's just my personal preference with Gx
Atm my series is GX > Zexal > 5ds > Arc-V > DM > VRains (mostly cause of what happened to the female cast)
Atm my series is GX > Zexal > 5ds > Arc-V > DM > VRains (mostly cause of what happened to the female cast)
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Can’t really comment on the later series’ and 5Ds, but my ranking for the ones I have watched would be
Zexal > GX > Duel Monsters.
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Honestly I'd like to argue
It's the DM > GX and the timeline split there.
Since Zexal has rainbow dragon.
It's the DM > GX and the timeline split there.
Since Zexal has rainbow dragon.
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Heard there are arguments for Low 1-C Yugi given the tie in manga for the Darkside of Dimensions movie kind of openly treats the afterlife as a higher dimensional place.
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Yea since kaiba himself was getting close to breaching the higher dimension.
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I agree, Kage shouldn’t be helping you, you should be helping him. I think a general increase in the quality of Yu-Gi-Oh pages would be good to prepare for Origin’s Ben vs Jaden.
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Poor Jaden, man.
Buuuut i admit it would be great if somehow, Jaedn wins by using super poly and fusing himself with Alien X and making Elemental Hero X and killing Ben that way.
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Watching GX is good if you like Jaden but if you watching for another characters trust me the treatment of character aside Jaden is too horrible due lack of screen time.
Watching GX is too boring due Jaden always put more spotlight. Erased Asuka and the other characters trust me the plot Will barely change.
