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Fairy Tail 100 Year Quest Discussion Thread: Post-Void Saga

DailyFairy said:
Have you been keeping up with current chapters or no?
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Yep. Selene ends up saying

"This magic is Natsu's flame huh? Honestly I can't tell which one is the Dragon God"

This basically outright confirms that this King Fire Dragon Force Natsu has power comparable to the Unsealed Dragon Gods, which is supported by how this Natsu obliterated a Black Magic Amped Aldoron with little difficulty
 
Remus1998 said:
Remembering DGMA 😔
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They just got surprised and let their guards down. They'll come back to help with the calamity bloods (copium)

DemonGodMitchAubin said:
Yep. Selene ends up saying

"This magic is Natsu's flame huh? Honestly I can't tell which one is the Dragon God"

This basically outright confirms that this King Fire Dragon Force Natsu has power comparable to the Unsealed Dragon Gods, which is supported by how this Natsu obliterated a Black Magic Amped Aldoron with little difficulty
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Ayyyeee my dawg
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If the anime is canon shouldn't DF Wendy be 144.5 gigatons for destroying a Face Bomb... when Jura couldn't
 
Remus1998 said:
262 or 263 i think
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Ok, so I looked at the episodes and tbf, they never show Jura and Lamia scale after they claim they're gonna destroy the face bombs

The implications are definitely there though and even without that, you'd have DF Wendy stronger than Bacchus, Orga and Rufus at the very least tho she might already scale above their values
 
Speaking of changing things though

Is there a reason we never use the statement of Etherion breaking things down to their smallest components to apply that to the calc we use?
 
Pretty good chapter to start the year with. Showings of power progression and a possible hint to something going on with the calamity bloods? Erza vs Motherglare wasn't where I was expecting this to go, but I'm curious nonetheless. Elefseria finally gets off his ass and starts helping in the fight. Natsu continues to be badass, but I'm really hoping this power stays
 
Who is your favorite villain/villain organization in Fairy Tail?

Hiro Mashima: Acnologia. He's the strongest in the world. He doesn't belong to any organization, but he is absolutely the strongest in the world.

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In a recent interview, Mashima confirmed that Acnology is the strongest in the world. This interview was about a century-old quest, and there's no point if his statement is about the past. Especially when he creates a severed arm in the story, which obviously has only a small part of the magical power of Acnologia, but it has already made it possible to compete with Ignia without any problems.
 
Campo1uc said:
In a recent interview
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This was like, 2 years ago, but sure

Campo1uc said:
This interview was about a century-old quest, and there's no point if his statement is about the past. Especially when he creates a severed arm in the story, which obviously has only a small part of the magical power of Acnologia, but it has already made it possible to compete with Ignia without any problems.
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You are aware Acnologia gets a buff at the end of the series correct? This statement doesn't mess with the timeline of events the DG's compare to. Everyone knew about Pre SBT Acno. Very few people got to see Post SBT Acnologia and none of those characters have made the comparison to that specific version. That version of himself wasn't around long enough for the DG's or Elefseria to compare as well, so of course Mashima has him as the strongest
 
DailyFairy said:
This was like, 2 years ago, but sure


You are aware Acnologia gets a buff at the end of the series correct? This statement doesn't mess with the timeline of events the DG's compare to. Everyone knew about Pre SBT Acno. Very few people got to see Post SBT Acnologia and none of those characters have made the comparison to that specific version. That version of himself wasn't around long enough for the DG's or Elefseria to compare as well, so of course Mashima has him as the strongest
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In your opinion, does the enhanced arm of Acnologia store more magical power than his full body with the spirit before the enhancement? If not, then it doesn't make sense, the argument is still that the hand, which obviously doesn't have a full-fledged container of magic inside/has a small part of it, allowed the character to enter a league in which Ignia's human form is not a problem.
 
Campo1uc said:
In your opinion, does the enhanced arm of Acnologia store more magical power than his full body with the spirit before the enhancement?
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Obviously it doesn't have more power, but it
doesn't have some negligible portion of his power. It's been said many times she has Acnologia's power. Mashima always makes note when an ability is used in full compared to only a portion. He's been doing it with Elfman since the beginning. He just did it this arc with him
Campo1uc said:
allowed the character to enter a league in which Ignia's human form is not a problem
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Faris has always been noted to be as powerful as she is because of Acnologia's power + Black Magic. It's not just one on their own
 
DailyFairy said:
Obviously it doesn't have more power, but it
doesn't have some negligible portion of his power. It's been said many times she has Acnologia's power. Mashima always makes note when an ability is used in full compared to only a portion. He's been doing it with Elfman since the beginning. He just did it this arc with him

Faris has always been noted to be as powerful as she is because of Acnologia's power + Black Magic. It's not just one on their own
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Then you need to answer the question directly. If you admit that the reinforced arm after the ravine of time does not have the same powers as the full dragon body before the ravine, then the arm having part of the power of Acnology before the reinforcement combined with magic gave it the ability to easily fight Ignia, which does not put Ignia in the best light. Because, responding to the second paragraph, and similarly to your answer referring to Mashima, if he wanted to say that her power is a symbiosis of black magic and the hand of acnology, where the emphasis of power is black magic, not the hand, he would have done it. But the characters, in particular Ignia, react and register the power of Acnology, rather than focusing on black magic. This means that most of her strength comes from her arm, and going back to the first point, if the reinforced arm is weaker than the full, NON-reinforced body, Ignia's human form will be inferior to Acnology before strengthening. If you say that the reinforced arm after the gorge of time is stronger than the full body of the dragon before the reinforcement, you should prepare a stack of evidence as to why part of the arm contains a container of magic, which, as we know, is in creatures, and that this container exists at all, and how many percent of the forces are left there at all.
 
Campo1uc said:
Then you need to answer the question directly
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I did
Campo1uc said:
If you admit that the reinforced arm after the ravine of time does not have the same powers as the full dragon body before the ravine, then the arm having part of the power of Acnology before the reinforcement combined with magic gave it the ability to easily fight Ignia, which does not put Ignia in the best light.
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Starting to think you just never read FT. Acno lost his arm in the Tartaros Arc. An entire year before Acno even gets the SBT. It's quite literally just Tartaros Acno power + Black Magic that makes Faris as strong as she is
Campo1uc said:
Because, responding to the second paragraph, and similarly to your answer referring to Mashima, if he wanted to say that her power is a symbiosis of black magic and the hand of acnology, where the emphasis of power is black magic, not the hand, he would have done it.
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I said her current standing in the verse is because of a combination of Acnologia's power + Black Magic. Not that her Black Magic alone is what makes her this strong instead of Acnologia's power. That's a vastly different claim that you're trying to put on me
Campo1uc said:
But the characters, in particular Ignia, react and register the power of Acnology, rather than focusing on black magic.
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Ignia's 1st meeting with Faris quite literally likens Faris to Acnologia AND Zeref. She calls herself a Black Wizard AND a Black Magic Dragon. She's performing insane feats of Black Magic by making her own Etherious, which was something only Zeref could do. 3 chapters ago we just had another reference of her being a combination of Zeref and Acnologia. You're just straight up wrong
Campo1uc said:
This means that most of her strength comes from her arm, and going back to the first point, if the reinforced arm is weaker than the full, NON-reinforced body, Ignia's human form will be inferior to Acnology before strengthening. If you say that the reinforced arm after the gorge of time is stronger than the full body of the dragon before the reinforcement, you should prepare a stack of evidence as to why part of the arm contains a container of magic, which, as we know, is in creatures, and that this container exists at all, and how many percent of the forces are left there at all
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Never implied or stated the arm gave her most of her power, so that's incorrect. It's Acnologia's power + Faris' Black magic. That goes against the basic narrative that this series has had since chapter 2.

The evidence is the entirety of 100yq telling us that the suppressed DG'S are as strong as Acnologia. It's consistent with every statement in verse and through WOG that SBT Acno is the strongest character, as the in verse statements all apply to Pre SBT Acno. If this is your way of essentially trying to change the verse pages and downgrade the DG's then good luck, no one is going for that. Especially considering Acnologia's entire current scaling quite literally comes from the DG's he's supposedly ooms stronger than with just an arm by your logic 🥴
 
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DailyFairy said:
I did

Starting to think you just never read FT. Acno lost his arm in the Tartaros Arc. An entire year before Acno even gets the SBT. It's quite literally just Tartaros Acno power + Black Magic that makes Faris as strong as she is

I said her current standing in the verse is because of a combination of Acnologia's power + Black Magic. Not that her Black Magic alone is what makes her this strong instead of Acnologia's power. That's a vastly different claim that you're trying to put on me

Ignia's 1st meeting with Faris quite literally likens Faris to Acnologia AND Zeref. She calls herself a Black Wizard AND a Black Magic Dragon. She's performing insane feats of Black Magic by making her own Etherious, which was something only Zeref could do. 3 chapters ago we just had another reference of her being a combination of Zeref and Acnologia. You're just straight up wrong

Never implied or stated the arm gave her most of her power, so that's incorrect. It's Acnologia's power + Faris' Black magic. That goes against the basic narrative that this series has had since chapter 2.

The evidence is the entirety of 100yq telling us that the suppressed DG'S are as strong as Acnologia. It's consistent with every statement in verse and through WOG that SBT Acno is the strongest character, as the in verse statements all apply to Pre SBT Acno. If this is your way of essentially trying to change the verse pages and downgrade the DG's then good luck, no one is going for that. Especially considering Acnologia's entire current scaling quite literally comes from the DG's he's supposedly ooms stronger than with just an arm by your logic 🥴
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I did
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You didn't. Answer this question: Does the arm have the same magical power as the body? If you say yes, you'll have to prove it. If not, you'll have to prove that black magic gave more power than the arm, since we know perfectly well that Acnologia is stronger than Zeref, and black magic doesn't necessarily equal Zeref's magical power, but the arm carries a more specific measure of a specific character. Logical holes.

Starting to think you just never read FT. Acno lost his arm in the Tartaros Arc. An entire year before Acno even gets the SBT. It's quite literally just Tartaros Acno power + Black Magic that makes Faris as strong as she is
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Then I have a big problem for you. The severed arm, before its enhancement, combined with black magic (WITHOUT ZEREF'S MAGIC POWER), yielded power comparable to Ignia.
Or better yet: If, according to you, the chapters compare arm and black magic 1:1, then it follows that the small portion of Acnologia's arm yielded an equivalent boost to UNREDUCED black magic. In that case, if it were the full body, it would be many times stronger than the magic itself. In that case, how Ignia should scale is a good question.

Especially considering Acnologia's entire current scaling quite literally comes from the DG's he's supposedly ooms stronger than with just an arm by your logic 🥴
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There's no need to be afraid or nervous; I'm asking logical questions, nothing more. You just need to consider why a small piece of Acnologia's arm and black magic without a specific part of Zeref—that is, without his magical power, that is, magic of an indeterminate level but with a specific attribute—made it possible to easily play with Ignia. A piece of an arm. An arm. And that was enough to do such mischief in combination with magic. The narrative, frankly, is clear, and I'll just patiently wait for the plot to finally confirm that the Dragon Gods are cheaters compared to Acnologia, while you frantically want to avoid it.;)
 
Campo1uc said:
You didn't. Answer this question: Does the arm have the same magical power as the body? If you say yes, you'll have to prove it. If not, you'll have to prove that black magic gave more power than the arm, since we know perfectly well that Acnologia is stronger than Zeref, and black magic doesn't necessarily equal Zeref's magical power, but the arm carries a more specific measure of a specific character. Logical holes
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I did, you're just high on that copium and refuse to acknowledge it 🤷‍♂️ Takes basic reading comprehension to see that everytime Acnologia's power is brought up, it's never as a portion

I don't have to prove her Black Magic is stronger, as what's stronger between the two is irrelevant to the scaling at hand. Both of them together pushes her to the level of an Unsuppressed DG, who are stronger than Pre SBT Acnologia
Campo1uc said:
Then I have a big problem for you. The severed arm, before its enhancement, combined with black magic (WITHOUT ZEREF'S MAGIC POWER), yielded power comparable to Ignia.
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Yes, it's almost like both of these things together make her a powerful foe. Crazy how that works. Regardless, this doesn't prove your point, as again, it's never stated nor implied it's only a portion of Acnologia's power. We have actual story beats throughout the og and 100yq that show us when something is being used in full and when it's not

As for Faris' Black magic, she's very clearly portrayed as a peer with Zeref in terms of her proficiency with Black Magic. Zeref was regarded as the greatest wizard because of his Etherious demons, something that Faris is capable of replicating. So she doesn't need Zeref's magic power when she's clearly shown as a peer in that regard
Campo1uc said:
Or better yet: If, according to you, the chapters compare arm and black magic 1:1, then it follows that the small portion of Acnologia's arm yielded an equivalent boost to UNREDUCED black magic. In that case, if it were the full body, it would be many times stronger than the magic itself. In that case, how Ignia should scale is a good question
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Not at all what that means, but you can keep that headcanon
Campo1uc said:
There's no need to be afraid or nervous; I'm asking logical questions, nothing more
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No one's afraid or nervous lol, but whatever floats your boat. I've quite literally answered all your questions
Campo1uc said:
You just need to consider why a small piece of Acnologia's arm and black magic without a specific part of Zeref—that is, without his magical power, that is, magic of an indeterminate level but with a specific attribute
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Are we really calling the character who made Etherious demons, the creations that made Zeref the greatest Black Wizard of his time, indeterminate?
Campo1uc said:
The narrative, frankly, is clear, and I'll just patiently wait for the plot to finally confirm that the Dragon Gods are cheaters compared to Acnologia, while you frantically want to avoid it.;)
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It's clear you haven't read the manga, I can say that. The narrative supports none of your claims.

Lmao, cheating is when you get stronger overtime apparently to surpass the person who beat you. Acnologia's current scaling is because of the dragon gods, so if anything, Acnologia would be the cheater 🏃‍♂️💨
 
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Remus1998 said:
First one will be about Etherion scaling using the 181.4 petaton end instead of the now accepted 20.1
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This would be nice if it went through, so 🤞


Remus1998 said:
The second will be removing the At least High 6-C scaling from X792 onwards
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So the Alvarez soldiers and Doom I'm pretty sure. Would make them nicer to look at

If you end up going through with either, I can try and help with supporting arguments for both 🫡
 
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Quick question, is there an resistance we can apply for Laxus' profiles with him being able to fight against Hades for some time after being hit by his Amateratsu formation?
 
DailyFairy said:
A mashima afterword
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I have the afterword in my hand, it doesn't mention that Faust is Makarov, it says, "did you notice that the Edolas versions of Gajeel and Makarov were part of the anime...? They were original episodes not in the manga, but they were "cut scenes" ...Edo-Makarov was supposed to be there during the final. But the voice actor was the same, and I'll bet everyone noticed. If you don't understand...check out the DVDs!!"
 
Hagane_no_Saiyajin said:
I have the afterword in my hand, it doesn't mention that Faust is Makarov, it says, "did you notice that the Edolas versions of Gajeel and Makarov were part of the anime...? They were original episodes not in the manga, but they were "cut scenes" ...Edo-Makarov was supposed to be there during the final. But the voice actor was the same, and I'll bet everyone noticed. If you don't understand...check out the DVDs!!"
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The quote you just provided from the afterword tells you that Edo Makarov is in the anime and points you to the episode lol
 
Speaking of stuff to add to the CRT list, we gotta try and get one passed for characters being able to push through their magic getting exploded inside of them
 
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