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UNDERTALE/DELTARUNE [shiny new] DISCUSSION THEAD

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Explanation, from the Deltarune Wiki:

"The page originally displayed two cryptic fields and a button. The first field expected an email, the second field expected any content. However, a 1 could be inputted and cause a "1 second" pop up to appear. After filling them out and clicking the button, the page displayed "Thank you." and the email was submitted to a remote server. Not entering a valid email in the first field displayed "Unknown contact." Entering a valid email but not filling the second field out displayed the text "She never smiled?"[14]
The next day, the page was updated and the entry fields removed. It currently only displays the text "Thank you."

Later on May 9, 2025, a (no subject) "Promotions" email was sent to users that had input their email in the first field, and are also already subscribed to the Undertale/Deltarune Newsletter.

If the second field had a number or time interval entered, the message varies, but starts with "You answered" with a listed number, then the word "seconds/minutes/days/years" depending on the inputted response.[15] If anything else was entered, the message is blank. At the bottom of the message is "You are getting this email because you       for the         Mailing List."

On December 19, 2025, a similar email was sent out, which has the words, "Another chance." and links to the page."



IMPORTANT: THE LAST TIME THIS WAS AVAILABLE, YOU COULD ONLY SEND ONE RESPONSE TO IT, & IT CLOSED SHORTLY AFTER.
CONSIDER CAREFULLY WHAT, IF ANYTHING, YOU WANT TO SEND.





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Reading the Reddit thread, it seems like, people are reminding that 1225 & 666 were tried last time & didn't work, & presumably, the days until 12/25 has been tried & didn't work, too.
I wanna research which numbers are do or don't picks, but I gotta go to sleep.

Good luck, have fun, & best wishes, all! Thanks!
 
Are we allowed to have profiles containing multiple characters?
What do you mean?
Characters who are always together, like Lanino and Elnina, are allowed to share profiles
And characters who are very similar or practically the same but in different ways are also allowed to share profiles
 
I didn't mention it here, but all the Deltarune profiles were updated after my last CRT
Furthermore, all Tenna employees now have profiles!

Why's the Ribbick so big
Are we allowed to have profiles containing multiple characters?
Yeah
 
What do you mean?
Characters who are always together, like Lanino and Elnina, are allowed to share profiles
And characters who are very similar or practically the same but in different ways are also allowed to share profiles
Just don't see it that common is all, wasn't sure of the standard cause there are some characters in a upcoming film I might have to make a combined profile for
 
How big is the UNDERGROUND?
It's a gargantuan cave system beneath a mountain with entire cities and different "biomes" spread throughout it, though this can be chalked up to simply being fiction bs. The idea of an underground cave system having a permanently snow-cold place and one filled with magma apparently hotter than the Sun's surface is, well, not exactly realistic. Yeah though as @Qurbonboev said we currently estimate the population of Monster's numbering in the range of 20,000.
 

Well well well
 
Reading the Reddit thread, it seems like, people are reminding that 1225 & 666 were tried last time & didn't work, & presumably, the days until 12/25 has been tried & didn't work, too.
Regarding this topic, there is collection of outputs to various answers to the question:
 
Seems like Chapter 5 will be pretty crazy considering "the heroes appear at world's edge"

That, or its talking about a random goofy ride at the festival and Toby is just trolling. Either way I have a feeling Chapter 5 will have some of the most wholesome and dark moments so far depending on the route
It's huge if real.
 
Okay, so, went over the doc & rambled out my thoughts:

"That's where you're wrong."
Exclusively reported by one person with the submission:
"She never did, as it wasn't her smile anymore."
Suspicious....

It isn't 30 or less hours, nor more than 999 years, & isn't anything 1225.
There should be a time.

"So she never stopped smiling" is if it was less than 10 seconds or a 1 digit number, or "Now" or "Until she made a friend".
Lowest timed instance is 3.5 seconds.

"Before the sun went down" is for longer than "So she never stopped smiling"; 11 seconds to 12 hours.

The track name 12 AM suggests Kris & Susie seal the first Dark Sanctuary's Fountain & create the 2nd Sanctuary at around midnight.

Interestingly, the track named 13AM plays during Ralsei's explanation after defeating the Sound of Justice, & after Susie destroys the Last Prophecy.
This MIGHT mean those happen at 1 AM, but the name could just be Toby being weird, as the song itself is a bit weird.

It having 2 places it plays is also weird, since one's at the end of the 2nd Sanctuary & it plays again at the end of the 3rd Sanctuary; If it were indicative of time, it, combined with the 12 AM track title would suggest the 2nd Sanctuary is cleared less than 2 hours after its creation (12:00 to 1:59.), & then there's still time before 1 AM/13 AM to clear the 3rd Sanctuary & get to the Last Prophecy panel's destruction cutscene.
In theory, both could take 1 hour.


Anyway, the fact that they're done at like, 12 AM & Noelle's Weird Route "THANK YOU" happens during the Dark Sanctuary, this along with "Before the sun went down" being for 11 seconds to 12 hours suggests Noelle, at least on WR, was awake close to midnight. Her "THANK YOU" was before 2nd Sanctuary (Which Kris & Susie entered in the afternoon, so did they spend several hours in the 1st Dark Sanctuary alone?).

It may also suggest she was awake from night time until the next day.... Does Weird Route Noelle not sleep?
What prompted her "THANK YOU" reaction if she's so vigilantly awaiting & unacting as to not even go to sleep?

"It was the first she smiled since she was a child" is mysterious, because we know Noelle has smiled before this. Before any cutscene or gameplay in Deltarune happens, even. Yet if she isn't a child now, those times before us would also qualify as when she wasn't a child, if the phrasing is saying she isn't one now.
In other words: Why haven't her [Noelle's?] recent smiles counted?
Is it looking for some kind of special smile? A sincere one? A forced one?

People who answered "4 chapters" got "It was the first she ever smiled in her life".
If this is about WR, it's strange. Is her WR smile not the "THANK YOU" moment in Chapter 4? Ergo, 4 Chapters from then is Chapter 8, right?
Or 4 chapters from the start? So the "THANK YOU moment"?

One social media post said the following about it:

"This in contrast to the since they were a child message, clearly it’s from our perspective, but that could mean their memories are fabricated for the purpose of the game. Like danganronpa v3 almost"

Either way the "It was the first she ever smiled in her life" answers are at odds; How could she have smiled when she was a child, yet not in her whole life? Her childhood is part of her life?
Does it mean a new life has begun? A life under the SOUL's influence?

What are you getting at being as low as 30 hours suggests the correct time is sometime within the next less-than-30 hours.
So from 6 or less hours before the day of the festival (It's still day but Kris & Susie are doing Dark World stuff seemingly until as late as midnight.), plus the whole festival calendar day...?

Saying 1 day or 1 night, gets "Then, "The next day you'll see her smile.".

It's interesting that the answers are framed as being quotes.
So, "She never stopped smiling" & the like.
& on successes, they conclude with "Move forward with this answer."

Is this a fortune teller? A therapist?
They ask how long it took her to smile, & respond with an interpretation that seems to know a lot.



Answers like "I don't know" & "Like probably a bit idk" get:
"So, you don't think it was really you that made her smile?".

"Too long.", "Ever", "She Didn't" "She never did again.", & "She never smiled" get:
"Do you think that means she still can?".

Yet "She never smiled again yields."
Source

"You're getting ahead of yourself".

Mind, the only source the doc lists for that interaction also says:
EDIT: Also, my reply mentioned in the e-mail is incomplete. I've written something in the vein of: "She never smiled again. It was the last time she was seen smiling. In fact, it was the last time she was ever seen.", give or take.

The fact that it's the only source saying you can get "You're getting ahead of yourself" with "She never smiled again" yet "She never did again." doesn't yield it is suspicious, even if "When the cold water falls from the sky." & "Until the end of the universe" also yield "You're getting ahead of yourself".

Something about asserting the future? Someone else's future?


Apparently, "Until she saw her friens being able to smile" [sic?] yields "Aww.".
https://bsky.app/profile/nyseeo.bsky.social/post/3majv3cvey222 (Sign-in link required.)
As do "Until she met Susie.", "when asriel smile to her." & "until the girl came along", according to the doc.

"When the heroes appear at worlds edge.", "5 chapter." & "festival" get "Then, "The next day, you'll see her smile.".

To say nothing of the suspicious answers like:
"Until she made a friend" getting "So, "She never stopped smiling.", "Not Applicable" getting "It is." & "She never will" getting "Is that really what you think?"
 
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Unverified, but I saw a YT comment claim:
"so if it wasnt clear, when you answer "angel" it gives you a blank response like a black screen, a reflection of yourself through the screen."
Would be interesting if true, but no confirmation, AFAIK.
 
Doesn't this just kinda depend on battle conditions? If Tenna is in the circus obviously he has no chance.
Tenna can't exist outside of a Dark World for too long either.

It would only make sense if you just did verse equalization and put them in the same world where they can properly function as with any other matchup.
 
Doesn't this just kinda depend on battle conditions? If Tenna is in the circus obviously he has no chance.
VS Threads are to allow impossible paradoxes like day and night at the same time just so the characters can even fight, so this isn't a factor.
 
Well yeah that's kinda what I meant but I didn't word it right. The battle doesn't make sense because the fight can't even happen. If it could then Caine would win to a default because he's essentially omnipotent within his realm. He'd just delete Tenna and move on to planning his next adventure. You'd need to put in a very different kind of character for this to be a discussion. Monika or Chara are my main choices. Or other general reality warpers ig?

But Vs. Battles aside I think Caine would love Tenna at first. Maybe he'd become increasingly agitated at how Tenna is starved for attention and he would view Tenna as competition, ultimately deleting him.
 
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These matchups are coming to an end soon
 

I can't wait for Ralsei's reaction to AM!
 
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