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Umamusume Pretty Derby Discussion Thread

I really do think we need something to set what is and isn't canon just so we know what feats can be used
 
Perhaps that was already decided on the first page of this thread? There was a long debate there I haven’t actually read through it yet.
 
not really sure how series that don't have explicit canons are handled on here but considering umamusume falls into that category and the fact that party dash doesn't give the umas some massive jump in power, i think it'd be fine to merge them together rather than making entirely separate profiles for both. it'd just buff them up to subsonic plus it'd give them items from various minigames they can use and some skills that might be useful
 
either way if what's canon is agreed upon it still needs a CRT to set it in stone (even the most obvs canon stuff needs CRTs lol)
 
not really sure how series that don't have explicit canons are handled on here but considering umamusume falls into that category and the fact that party dash doesn't give the umas some massive jump in power, i think it'd be fine to merge them together rather than making entirely separate profiles for both. it'd just buff them up to subsonic plus it'd give them items from various minigames they can use and some skills that might be useful
I mean, the subsonic difference is huge. That’s casual 195 kmph vs 134 kmph at best that only lasts for like, 7 sec or so. And this is sports media, where the horse girls themselves consider a gap of seconds to be significant since that’s enough to get you a win in race.

-ig I’ll go with treating each as separate continuities, that’s a safer option me thinks.
 
I don't think just because there's an outlier feat means it's a separate continuity

also makes sense rice shower's subsonic showing would be slower since she's in a maze where she has to make sharp turns constantly while the party dash feat is in a straight line
 
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I don't think just because there's an outlier feat means it's a separate continuity
There was a huge difference in stats (both AP and speed) and power sets, so I still think it would be too reckless to merge them together and call it a day.

Idk it’s just me.
also makes sense rice shower's subsonic showing would be slower since she's in a maze where she has to make sharp turns constantly while the party dash feat is in a straight line
It doesn’t matter that Rice is in a maze duh? Not like she’d stop to think about which direction to go when she’s instantly turning. That’s quite the same exact thing as running in straight lines, just factoring in skill and the like.
 
It doesn’t matter that Rice is in a maze duh? Not like she’d stop to think about which direction to go when she’s instantly turning. That’s quite the same exact thing as running in straight lines, just factoring in skill and the like.
Constant quick turns is gonna slow you down more than spacious wide turns

You can literally test this irl
 
Constant quick turns is gonna slow you down more than spacious wide turns

You can literally test this irl
irl doesn’t look as similar to what Rice is shown doing with her momentum not getting disrupted, and on a closer look she didn’t actually take a complete 90-degree turn or anything. Or, yk, just calc her dashing in a straight line in that same feat and get the same result.

(and also it’s uh not massively faster than when they put into the last spurt).
 
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(and it’s uh not massively faster than when they put all into the last spurt).
I mean, the subsonic difference is huge.
You seem to be contradicting yourself a little here

Personally I feel like Uma running at Superhuman speeds is more consistent but if there's multiple showings of Subsonic then I'm fine with it
There was a huge difference in stats (both AP and speed) and power sets, so I still think it would be too reckless to merge them together and call it a day.

Idk it’s just me.
Party Dash got 9-A and Subsonic
Pretty Derby got 9-A+ and Subsonic
that doesn't seem like a huge difference, if anything it seems like Pretty Derby has the higher AP showings
irl doesn’t look as similar to what Rice is shown doing with her momentum not getting disrupted, and on a closer look she didn’t actually take a complete 90-degree turn or anything
It doesn't need to be 90 degrees for it to be slower/harder

She is constantly making far sharper turns than she would in a race (imgur ****** up the order of images but I'm too lazy to rearrange em)


You are far more capable of building up speed in a straight line with wide turns
 
You seem to be contradicting yourself a little here
Last spurt speed is over 100 kmph
The dash is ~134 kmph
They’re what I’m comparing and so I dunno what’s being contradicted here when they’re definitely closer to each other than the Party Dash value.
Party Dash got 9-A and Subsonic
Pretty Derby got 9-A+ and Subsonic
that doesn't seem like a huge difference, if anything it seems like Pretty Derby has the higher AP showings
That’s an 18x AP difference, one is Subsonic in combat and travel speed, the other is only in quick bursts, and once again, Party Dash have different power sets. They literally have piercing shots in dodgeball, explosive auras and can create huge blasts from them or something afaik. Obviously the main game has Cafe and Marvelous Sunday creating pocket dimensions, but still-
It doesn't need to be 90 degrees for it to be slower/harder

She is constantly making far sharper turns than she would in a race (imgur ****** up the order of images but I'm too lazy to rearrange em)
I mean fair on the angles, but the point is that she isn’t losing any speed as she swiftly takes turns- just readying, bursting forward, and maintaining that velocity toward the end.
Putting this feat aside, we know the main game girls aren’t as fast even when running at the exact same last spurt thing, so like, eh.
 
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Eh, I feel like we need some more Subsonic feats to prove it's consistent (We got two Subsonic calcs then a few supporting stuff) since there's some anti-feats for that level of speed

It's seen as impressive for one of the fastest Umas (Calstone Light O) to run on water when that's a Superhuman speed feat, if everyone is Subsonic then it should be an easily replicable feat

Plus Umas being comparable to Ostriches which are Superhuman in speed
 
Actually...
The common feat reference puts it at Superhuman travel speed and Subsonic striking speed
 
The common feat reference puts it at Superhuman travel speed and Subsonic striking speed
Like I said, still gotta take Uma weight into account.
 
Nevermind about the weight part. I remember having seen it somewhere but can't provide a source for it and many of our calculations already assume normal human weight for Umas.
 
Nevermind about the weight part. I remember having seen it somewhere but can't provide a source for it and many of our calculations already assume normal human weight for Umas.
i believe urara's spinoff manga specifically mentions her weight being somewhere around 300-400kg. pretty sure that's the only instance of an uma's weight being explicitly stated afaik, though that's kind of it's own thing separate from the games so i'm not sure if we should really use that value for the game versions of the characters
 
i believe urara's spinoff manga specifically mentions her weight being somewhere around 300-400kg. pretty sure that's the only instance of an uma's weight being explicitly stated afaik, though that's kind of it's own thing separate from the games so i'm not sure if we should really use that value for the game versions of the characters
why does she weight nearly half a ton at only ~5ft 3 with a slender build 😭

that seems more like gag than a serious weight for her
 
i believe urara's spinoff manga specifically mentions her weight being somewhere around 300-400kg. pretty sure that's the only instance of an uma's weight being explicitly stated afaik, though that's kind of it's own thing separate from the games so i'm not sure if we should really use that value for the game versions of the characters
Agnes Tachyon straight up says that Umas have disproportionately low muscle mass despite their strength.
 
why does she weight nearly half a ton at only ~5ft 3 with a slender build 😭

that seems more like gag than a serious weight for her
i mean to be fair in a series where umas can apparently see ghosts, have their own pocket dimensions and apparently warp entire universes is urara being disproportionately heavy for her size really something to be super surprised about lol
 
Here are the changes we gonna make to the stats and the new VR key for Gold Ship
I took the Gentil recognizing Gold Ship’s strength bit from other wikis, it likely comes from the JP Uma and I obviously don’t know Japanese, so uh could someone here find the scans?
 
Stego can rewrite the history, bro got fate hax
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Stego can rewrite the history, bro got fate hax
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She is not lol
Is more like the world influence to correct things can't reach her(resistance to fate manipulation letsgooooo?????),she using that to help other umas with doomed fates like suzuka(while not touching their racing fates),stego also hage something similar to neo universe,ability to travel dimension,time travel(?) or something like that,and possible pocket reality manipulation like marvelous sunday (only mentioned not showed like marvelous)
 
Here are the changes we gonna make to the stats and the new VR key for Gold Ship
I took the Gentil recognizing Gold Ship’s strength bit from other wikis, it likely comes from the JP Uma and I obviously don’t know Japanese, so uh could someone here find the scans?
So, Gentildonna and Gold Ship had an arm wrestling match in a spin-off manga where they were kindergarteners. Gentil slammed Goldshi so hard she literally dug a hole straight to Brazil.

 
So, Gentildonna and Gold Ship had an arm wrestling match in a spin-off manga where they were kindergarteners. Gentil slammed Goldshi so hard she literally dug a hole straight to Brazil.
Vro- Yeah It's a spin-off, which means that unless it’s directly stated to be canon in the game (never), it can’t be used, that manga even has multiverse shenanigans too- Game Gold Ship doesn’t get anything from this 🥀.

The tunnel digging thing is like, resistance to heat because of the Earth’s mantle. We don’t really know how fast they can do it or anything like that anyway.
 
Vro- Yeah It's a spin-off, which means that unless it’s directly stated to be canon in the game (never), it can’t be used, that manga even has multiverse shenanigans too- Game Gold Ship doesn’t get anything from this 🥀.

The tunnel digging thing is like, resistance to heat because of the Earth’s mantle. We don’t really know how fast they can do it or anything like that anyway.
manga golshi probably warrants her own profile tbh, she's basically a gag character in her spinoff series lol
 
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