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The Ultimate Human Battle Royale (1-1-0-0-1-0-8-0-1)

EnderLord8 said:
Well, now the only way for any of them to get a decent weapon is by using what's on the skate park, a human's lost weapon that they dropped during combat, or using the body of a dead human as a shield/weapon.
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That's not restricted btw
 
Well, I think I'll go with incon. I don't believe there's enough information to definitively declare a winner, since many of the human's chances of winning would depend on their personality, in my view.
 
Darkmon_cns said:
My vision of the fight

Drunken even well drunk sees the man with the knife as the biggest threat;

The knife man gose to slice him, but the drunkenness lets him go through the pain and instantly kill the knife man with one swing, but hit bottle is also mostly shattered, Pepsi man and the composit humans step away understanding that he'll be less dangerous once he kills someone else- cosply miku trys to shatter the bottole in his hand by hitting it with her Mike, unfortunately it wasn't enough to shatter it, and he retaliates with a blow to the head, killing another. At this point the bottole all shards on the ground.

Pogo stick man gose to kill him now that his weapon is used up, he dose so but composit human takes the change to knock pogo stick man down and whale on him in his shock getting his pogo stick away from him,

Meanwhile pesiman started harassing pizza cutter as he sees him as the next biggest threat, he may be quick but they still exchange blows when hits are made and one of them had a sharp edge, Pepsi man eventually changes targets to downplayed composite human.

Eventually the composite human makes use of his initial advantage and wins his death brawl with pogo stick man, leaving behind only pizza cutter, downplayed composite human, composite human, and Pepsi man.

Composite human trys to hanf back but pizza cutter approaches him intent on picking him off, well he trys to stall he's too tired from the brawl and dies to pizza cutter.

Downplayed composite human is doing his best but Pepsi man's fee advantages are causing hims issues. Well there both distracted pizza cutter slices at the back of Pepsi man's neck killing him, and wins the insuring brawl with the downplayed composite human.
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Let me justify some of my decisions here a bit.

First is my assumption hitting someone on the head with a glass bottle would shatter it enough that you could only do s0 2 times before it stops being a useful weapon, well I admit 3 or 4 times also sound reasonable I also assumed a single hit was enough to kill someone, you could aurge the drunkard may not go for the head (i think it's natural enough an action in a life or death fight to assume he would but the opposite could also be reasonable) so I think among all those possibilities it ultimately evens out that him managing to kill 2 people before his weapon becomes ineffective is the correct destination.

Average human knocking down the pogo stickman. With his 24 hours prep time and his background knowledge of the others he should understand this is realisticly his only chance to take out the pogo stickman, he needs to knock him down well he's distracted with something else before he decides to kill him, now you could aruge he could take the pogo stick and run, then try to hide it before finishing the fight (putting it at the bottom of a ramp should effectively make it useless sense the angle it would need to get out via jumping wouldn't work, then again maybe tricking him into jumping down a ramp would be a viable strategy? The uneven ground should send him off balance...) but I think ultimately that would result in the same conclusion. The only one woth a weapon left is pizza cutter, the others need to beat someone to death to kill them well pizza cutter needs to randomly hit an artery, assuming they have no combat training and maybe just vagly looked up where the spots to hit generally are on the human bodies, this should mean it's far less work for pizza cutter to kill someone then everyone else, leading everyone else to get much more tired faster.

Pogo stick killing drunkard, realistically you could aurge pogo stick attacks pizza cutter at this point leading him to lose, which I think is the main way he could lose this fight, but a pizza cutter is not an immediately obviously deadly weapon, and the drunkard would essentially instantly kill someone, Sense he is the most "accomplished" fighter I think it makes sense for the pogo stickman to see him as a bigger threat.

For the sake of aurgment, let's assume the drunkard attacks someone completely randomly; and gose for composite human, would pogo stickman then win the fight as noone is left to knock him down? Well I don't think so. Downplayed composite human is said to have genius level intelligence, so it is likely he could figure out he needs to knock down the pogostickman, or to trick him into landing in a ramp then crashing harming him.

If anyone has any disputes with my suggestion or something else to say please tell me! I feel like we haven't really been engaging with eachother's aurgments at all
 
EnderLord8 said:
Well, I think I'll go with incon. I don't believe there's enough information to definitively declare a winner, since many of the human's chances of winning would depend on their personality, in my view.
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Here's also this factor - average human (guy who have no his own equipment and got the most prep time) fully knows their personality and their weaponry, which probably might lead to him abusing their personal flaws and not getting slammed first. But personally I don't believe in a skillslop for an average human
 
EnderLord8 said:
Well, I think I'll go with incon. I don't believe there's enough information to definitively declare a winner, since many of the human's chances of winning would depend on their personality, in my view.
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Well, I think sense it's likly the glass bottle will attack the knife user, the knife will be on the ground surrounded by glass shards, anyone going for it will likly get glass in there feet causing there attention to be damaged for the rest of the fight, likly leading to them dying so I think the knife isn't going to give anyone the win

The bottle will destory itself so I'm unsure if that's an option, and noone else probably knows hoe to use s pogostick it's supposed to actually be really hard, so ua lol the only viable weapon to pick up is the pizza cutter who is who I think wins-- funny like that, do you disagree with this assessment?
 
Love how everyone agrees that knife guy gets targeted or at the very least loses to someone's else weapon
 
AppleMaker said:
Love how everyone agrees that knife guy gets targeted or at the very least loses to someone's else weapon
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It's just too obviously a deadly weapon. All the weapons are technically deadly but I think only one of them would have a drunk recognize it as a deadly weapon
 
Will everyone be barefoot, making broken glass a problem? Otherwise, you can just use your shoes to move the glass away from the knife, then grab the knife, and if a piece of glass is large enough to pierce someone's shoe, it will be large enough to be used as a weapon.

Not to mention that using the dead body of someone who recently died as a mat to hold the knife is also an alternative.

There's also the issue of adrenaline, which, depending on the person, can cause them to ignore pain and bleeding enough to kill their opponent.
 
EnderLord8 said:
Will everyone be barefoot, making broken glass a problem? Otherwise, you can just use your shoes to move the glass away from the knife, then grab the knife, and if a piece of glass is large enough to pierce someone's shoe, it will be large enough to be used as a weapon.
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Hum that's a good point tho I think spending time carefully moving away glass also gives someone else a chance to attack you well your off gaurd.

I'm pretty sure knocking someone down into the glass pile would he enough to basically guarantee there gona lose the fight in the long run even if they get the knife. There's also the fact Noone here besides knife man should know how to use a knife in a fight so they'd be pretty ineffective with it, at least pizza cutter has prep time to try to figure out how best to use the pizza cutter as a deadly weapon. Only average human should have time to figure that out and I at least think at this point he should be more concerned getting popgo man's pogostick away from him after knocking him down, so someone else would probably get it
 
A knife is a knife; it may be less efficient in your hand, but it's still enough to kill someone instantly.
 
EnderLord8 said:
A knife is a knife; it may be less efficient in your hand, but it's still enough to kill someone instantly.
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I don't really agree with that, there are plenty of spaces where you could stab someone where it won't instantly be fatal, it could also just graze someone, if you just stab in into someone's chest with all your might it could even get stuck in there chest and then the knife is out of play, I think all this comes together to the knife not being a reliable wincon for any individual, kinda making it a none factor- so I still think pizza cutter has the best chance of winning
 
Darkmon_cns said:
I don't really agree with that, there are plenty of spaces where you could stab someone where it won't instantly be fatal, it could also just graze someone, if you just stab in into someone's chest with all your might it could even get stuck in there chest and then the knife is out of play, I think all this comes together to the knife not being a reliable wincon for any individual, kinda making it a none factor- so I still think pizza cutter has the best chance of winning
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I didn't say the knife is a 100% one-hit kill, but rather that it has the potential to kill instantly. Furthermore, the pizza cutters I know would be terrible bladed weapons; I don't think a pizza cutter would cut that deeply.
 
EnderLord8 said:
I didn't say the knife is a 100% one-hit kill, but rather that it has the potential to kill instantly. Furthermore, the pizza cutters I know would be terrible bladed weapons; I don't think a pizza cutter would cut that deeply.
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I just don't feel like the knife would be a big factor sense it's likely to get tossed around and just turns the debeat into hot potato. It's a much more interesting debeat without picking up weapons

I will say downplayed composite human with genius level intelligence is probably the one most likly to be last holding that hot potato.
 
Darkmon_cns said:
But dude all you need to knock him down is good timing and for him not to be focused on you, in a all for all bawl like this many characters will have that chance, and being knocked down is a disadvantage he likly won't recover from, someone will at least kick away his pogo stick
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Can't he just use his pogo stick like a club, hypothetically?
 
Rex_Eckles said:
Oh sorry, I didn't look at them.
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Well you put, average human had prep time and is aware of the equipment of the others, and is in the position to make a plan and now to push the pogo sticker off balance, then he can get the stick away from him, alternatively this is a skate park, there are slops and pits and stuff, if the downplayed average human (who is listed with genuis intelligence so it's safe to say he could think of this) got him to bounce off a slop he'd crash and likly get seriously wounded. Either of these 2 I think have a very high chance of killing him if the other dosen't which us why I don't think he'd win
 
Darkmon_cns said:
Well you put, average human had prep time and is aware of the equipment of the others, and is in the position to make a plan and now to push the pogo sticker off balance, then he can get the stick away from him, alternatively this is a skate park, there are slops and pits and stuff, if the downplayed average human (who is listed with genuis intelligence so it's safe to say he could think of this) got him to bounce off a slop he'd crash and likly get seriously wounded. Either of these 2 I think have a very high chance of killing him if the other dosen't which us why I don't think he'd win
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I guess so.

I feel like the knife is the next best thing, I know the bottle could be stronger, but a knife doesn't need as much kinetic force to be lethal.
 
Darkmon_cns said:
If this thread closes before anyone even addresses my points against that I'll be rather pevied
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Well, I could address your argument, but I didn't really want to do it, since neither of them is really contradict one another (basically yeah, both scenarios could happen, the question is which is more likely gonna happen). And basically I have few counterarguments against Pogo stick losing:
  1. He don't have to jump on it that much and that often, also considering that he have acrobatics on his profile - he probably fairly skilled with it too. Most likely he would crash and fall only if someone actively tries to sabotage him one of the first, which most likely isn't a case. Pretty sure everyone with prep would be more worried about Knife guy or just go the path of least resistance (basically they'll just try to jump Average Human/Miku/Downplayed composite human and leave Pogo guy for later)
  2. Pretty sure guy with Pogo stick would actively try to avoid some traps and targeters mid-air. He most likely won't jump on the ramps way too often, since they are shaky and could be moved and most likely would walk around/jump around not going lower/higher. Also even if something of that fails, he might actually brace himself and try to land in a less painful way. Equipment might help him with that
  3. Your scenarios are also very probable, I obviously didn't say that he would completely stomp everyone into oblivion, more like "out of 100, he prolly wins 20-35 times, a bit more than other contestants". My argument was mostly about versatility of his weapon, which is also doesn't look that threatening as knife
 
AppleMaker said:
Well, I could address your argument, but I didn't really want to do it, since neither of them is really contradict one another (basically yeah, both scenarios could happen, the question is which is more likely gonna happen). And basically I have few counterarguments against Pogo stick losing:
  1. He don't have to jump on it that much and that often, also considering that he have acrobatics on his profile - he probably fairly skilled with it too. Most likely he would crash and fall only if someone actively tries to sabotage him one of the first, which most likely isn't a case. Pretty sure everyone with prep would be more worried about Knife guy or just go the path of least resistance (basically they'll just try to jump Average Human/Miku/Downplayed composite human and leave Pogo guy for later)
  2. Pretty sure guy with Pogo stick would actively try to avoid some traps and targeters mid-air. He most likely won't jump on the ramps way too often, since they are shaky and could be moved and most likely would walk around/jump around not going lower/higher. Also even if something of that fails, he might actually brace himself and try to land in a less painful way. Equipment might help him with that
  3. Your scenarios are also very probable, I obviously didn't say that he would completely stomp everyone into oblivion, more like "out of 100, he prolly wins 20-35 times, a bit more than other contestants". My argument was mostly about versatility of his weapon, which is also doesn't look that threatening as knife
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1 I think the idea they'd save pogo guy for later well being aware of what he an do is insane. With hours to think about it they should know they really have no practical way to deal with him. So they would deal with him when they can especially sense they should he able to deduce the drunkard is likly to take care of the knife man.

2 well idk what you imagine when you say a skate park but I picture a place with alot of deep circlear holes in the ground, that if they stood in the bottom of the pogo stick guy would have to jump across the ramp and ultimately crash to get to him (once he's down he would need to be rushed)

3 I think people who have hours to think about it should be able to see through and realize how much of a threat the pogo stick guy posses

There's also the possibility of someone acquiring skates and using them to increase there speed

Alos using a real pogo stick is like real hard. Just being able to stay on the thing should really give acrobatics.
 
I could see anyone win depending on how the battle, goes my main contenders are knife man and pogo stick man, I guess I'll just go with pogo guy
 
Imagine mod's reaction to Pogo stick human getting so many W's at once on his profile
 
I still feel like my aurgment against the pogo man is very strong.

Tho the arguments against the knife is much stronger
 
And... I added this monstrosity of a matchup to their profiles (Except Pepsi-drinker's, since VSBW prohibits that)
 
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