Ben 10 Upgrade | Part 3 [Staff Needed]

[Ultimate-Rex1]

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The other is fine, though i still have yet to evaluate Mana section, i will be busy for a while

N/A just means, I didn't make a reply for that part yet.

Can i get your input on Mana Abilities Additions. Also (ask Firestorm) are you agree with UES for Time Energy and HDP for Space-Time hax?

 

[Firestorm808]

• Danmaku (Users can project lots of mana attacks shown here and here)
  • Fine
• Rage Power (Mana depends on the emotional of a user, if their will become more stronger, the mana would be became more responsive to them, shown when Charmcaster was able to destroy her castle through anger, and Darkstar was able to destroy all monsters around him through anger)
  • You need justification that they gained power they didn't have prior because of the rage.
• Regeneration Negation (High-Mid; Their aura is a powerful energy wave that left Rock Creatures incapacitated and unable to immediately reform after destroyed into pieces despite it possessing the nature physiology of a rock monster)
  • Does the regeneration normally happen instantly after damage, or does it take time?
• Healing (High-Low to High-Mid; Mana users can heal any way of damage, such as regenerate person's hand, or regenerate Rock Creatures after destroyed into pieces)
  • The first scan is reattaching a limb.
  • Not sure if the second counts since they are rock constructs, than biological flesh.
• Memory Manipulation & Non-Physical Interaction (Memory; Mana can wipes person's memories, as shown here and here)
  • Manip is fine.
  • Memory isn't non-physical, it's a system of synapses in the brain.
• Purification (All Types; Mana can passively removing contaminants from a person, such as purified Kevin who absorbed Crystal matter. Mana can negate the effects of the Darkstar's corruption which make person become zombie and turn that attracted to him and control their minds after being drained)
  • Material Purification, Fine
  • Spiritual Healing, not demonstrated.
  • Removal of Status Effects, Fine.
• Enhanced Vision (Aura, Soul & Neutral Vision; In "Reflected Glory", it shown that users can see invisible aura/mana without need to use mana sensor.)
  • Aura vision is fine.
• Instinctive Action (It stated that "The charms seem to react to Gwen's emotional desires - like wanting to embarrass Ben". Later, in "Double or Nothing", it shown that mana punches appeared after Gwen got angry. In "The End of an Era", it shown that mana sensor activited after Maltruant use his extra senses, although Future Gwen don't activated it. In "A Knight to Remember", when the team was exhausted and wanted to know where Vilgax and the Forever Knights were, Mana immediately informed them of the Forever Knights’ and Vilgax’s location.)
  • Instinctive Action is the ability to act without the need for conscious thought. Emotion is a conscious thought.
  • Magic that auto triggered from external stimuli is fine.
• Curse Manipulation (Mana is also shown that can be "form of curse". In Official Ben 10 stickers album, Hex's powers was mentioned as "cast spells and rain, curse people, and perform even more powerful magic")
  • Fine
• 2-A Potency with Absorption; Mana users can absorb enough energy to control over Legerdomain.
  • Why does conquesting / taking over the realm of magic mean 2-A?

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

• Rage Power (Mana depends on the emotional of a user, if their will become more stronger, the mana would be became more responsive to them, shown when Charmcaster was able to destroy her castle through anger, and Darkstar was able to destroy all monsters around him through anger)
  • You need justification that they gained power they didn't have prior because of the rage.

I will give a statement for this later

• Regeneration Negation (High-Mid; Their aura is a powerful energy wave that left Rock Creatures incapacitated and unable to immediately reform after destroyed into pieces despite it possessing the nature physiology of a rock monster)
  • Does the regeneration normally happen instantly after damage, or does it take time?

Here, we see that Rock Creatures can instantly regenerate after being destroyed.

• Healing (High-Low to High-Mid; Mana users can heal any way of damage, such as regenerate person's hand, or regenerate Rock Creatures after destroyed into pieces)
  • The first scan is reattaching a limb.
  • Not sure if the second counts since they are rock constructs, than biological flesh.

So you are agree with High-Low and neutral with High-Mid?

• Memory Manipulation & Non-Physical Interaction (Memory; Mana can wipes person's memories, as shown here and here)
  • Manip is fine.
  • Memory isn't non-physical, it's a system of synapses in the brain.

It's count as more justification for Non-Physical Interaction (Mind)?

• Enhanced Vision (Aura, Soul & Neutral Vision; In "Reflected Glory", it shown that users can see invisible aura/mana without need to use mana sensor.)
  • Aura vision is fine.

Is this are count Soul & Neutral Vision? As Mana is Aura

Add Mana is aura of beings, as shwon when Gwen senses mana of beings like Addwaitya and Cash, she stated their mana is aura. Also, Gwen referred to Mana as an aura.

• 2-A Potency with Absorption; Mana users can absorb enough energy to control over Legerdomain.
  • Why does conquesting / taking over the realm of magic mean 2-A?

Legerdomain are accept as 2-A realm. Isn't?

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

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[Ultimate-Rex1]

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[FinePoint]

I was asked to comment here, but it appears I already have.

Has there been significant updates to the debate?

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Minor Bump

 

[Firestorm808]

Here, we see that Rock Creatures can instantly regenerate after being destroyed.

So you are agree with High-Low and neutral with High-Mid?

It's count as more justification for Non-Physical Interaction (Mind)?

Is this are count Soul & Neutral Vision? As Mana is Aura

Legerdomain are accept as 2-A realm. Isn't?

1. Looking at the full clip, Charmcaster waved her hand to create the constructs from the rubble. It's likely that Charmcaster is actively remaking them as they are getting destroyed. It's only when Charmcaster is knocked away that the regeneration stops since she is no longer focusing on them.
2. High-Low is fine. I'll defer to other staff regarding regeneration of inorganic constructs.
3. I wouldn't use this as an example of Non-Physical Interaction.
4. No, Soul and Neutral are different in nature.
5. Conquesting / taking over the realm is not an example of significantly affecting the entire realm with your power.

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

1. Looking at the full clip, Charmcaster waved her hand to create the constructs from the rubble. It's likely that Charmcaster is actively remaking them as they are getting destroyed. It's only when Charmcaster is knocked away that the regeneration stops since she is no longer focusing on them.

They literally regenerate even when Charmcaster don't waved her hand. At least it can accept as possibly

1. I wouldn't use this as an example of Non-Physical Interaction.

Why? There characters has Mind Interaction via affect/wipe memories; Cat Noir

1. No, Soul and Neutral are different in nature.

What? Aura, Soul and Neutral are same, as Aura=Mana=Soul, and we even can see Gwen only one who can see aura in scan, even Ben couldn't do this.

1. Conquesting / taking over the realm is not an example of significantly affecting the entire realm with your power.

What about absorb 2-A energy? Mana in Legerdomain are 2-A energy as it created entire Ledgerdomain, and Darkstar was able to absorb mana in Legerdomain overtime

 

[Firestorm808]

They literally regenerate even when Charmcaster don't waved her hand. At least it can accept as possibly

Why? There characters has Mind Interaction via affect/wipe memories; Cat Noir

What? Aura, Soul and Neutral are same, as Aura=Mana=Soul, and we even can see Gwen only one who can see aura in scan, even Ben couldn't do this.

What about absorb 2-A energy? Mana in Legerdomain are 2-A energy as it created entire Ledgerdomain, and Darkstar was able to absorb mana in Legerdomain overtime

1. The clip has been removed.
2. "The power to interact with intangible or non-corporeal beings or objects. Users can both see and interact with intangible, or non-corporeal, abstract, and nonexistent objects or life-forms and entities, allowing them to make physical contact and possibly cause harm." Cat Noir shouldn't have gotten Non-Physical interaction for that.
3. I thought we already gave Gwen Neutral vision from a different thread.
   1. Aura Vision: The ability to see hormonal output. When has Gwen seen hormonal output?
   2. Soul Vision: Ability to see souls, spirits, and ghosts. Do you have an example of her seeing ghosts or the like when others could not?
4. Absorbing or using mana isn't a 2-A feat.

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

1. The clip has been removed.

Here

1. I thought we already gave Gwen Neutral vision from a different thread.

We don't...

1. 1. Aura Vision: The ability to see hormonal output. When has Gwen seen hormonal output?

Oh aura vision aren't for see aura...

1. 1. Soul Vision: Ability to see souls, spirits, and ghosts. Do you have an example of her seeing ghosts or the like when others could not?

She see aura (mana), which is a soul/spirit of beings. It in OP.

 

[Hellformer]

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[Firestorm808]

Here

We don't...

She see aura (mana), which is a soul/spirit of beings. It in OP.

1. I'll defer to other staff opinion on the matter.
2. If it's in the mana page, using a Gwen example already, it should be fine.
3. I'll defer to other staff opinion on the matter.

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

1. I'll defer to other staff opinion on the matter.
2. If it's in the mana page, using a Gwen example already, it should be fine.
3. I'll defer to other staff opinion on the matter.

Fine, but can we pls keep with other additions

 

[Firestorm808]

Fine, but can we pls keep with other additions

What other additions do I need to go over?

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

• HDP; Time Powers has 5-D up to 26-D Potency

Feats:

• UES; All characters have feats via their time powers should be has same SS, LS, AP, Durability feat due to

And

Fixing:

Extrasensory Perception should change to this:
Extrasensory Perception (Mind, Soul, Life, Aura, Magic Detection and Awareness; Mana users can detect someone's mana as a form of dowsing, allowing them to track them down by either following their mana trail, detecting residual mana left on their belongings, or by becoming “attuned to the cosmic mana”. Sensing a mana also grants the user awareness of what the tracked person is doing at that very moment. Dowsing can even be used to identify someone, as demonstrated with Dr. Victor Valadis. Dimensional, Telescopic, Aura, X-Ray, Neutral, Soul, Multiple Vision; Users can use Mana Sensor to see invisible beings and dimension, invisible aura/mana, behind walls, great distances, and many different places at once. Aura [Life, Soul and Mind] & Emotion Reading; Users can read person's aura to know if he was lying or not, they also can distinguish beings with physical similarities, such as Ben and Albedo, by reading their auras. Precognition; User can predicting the next moves of his opponents, shown here and here. Technology Detection; By exploiting the incompatibility between mana and high-tech machines, the users can send out a wave of manna to intentionally disrupt a nearby piece of high-tech machinery)

• Add Mana is aura of beings, as shwon when Gwen senses mana of beings like Addwaitya, she stated his mana is aura. Also, Gwen referred to Mana as an aura.
• Add Mana is energy field, as stated here. Also Charmcaster referring to Mana as a mystical field
• Add Mana is spirit, as shwon when Gwen can sensing Ben's spirit, and it stated that Mana Sensor are only sense mana of being.

Nature of Mana

• Nonduality (Type 1; Mana is magic and non-magic, as it explained in "In Charm's Way", Charmcaster explain that Gwen's Mana are magic in nature, later in "Hero Generation Series Bible", stated that "Gwen's powers are NOT magical", meaning Mana are and aren't magic)
• Invisibility (Mana is the 'hidden' mystic life energy)
• Invulnerability ([Add to all Physiology except Elf] Magical things are immune to non-magic attacks)

Anodite Physiology:

• Accelerated Development (Others: Physical Statistics & Abilities; Anodite kids can use mana faster and surpass the others Mana masters)

Spells:

• Resistance Bestowal (User can make person have resistance to another person's mana abilities)
• Invisibility (User can create shield can make anyone inside it invisible to other users)
• Analytical Prediction (User can make spell that can use to try an upcoming true name of Legerdomain)
• Mind Manipulation or Purification [more justifications] (Type 2; User can remove the evil selves that take control of victim's body.)
• Power Nullification ([Just a justifications]; User can use Binding Spell to nullify another person's abilities)

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

What other additions do I need to go over?

And

Is everything here are fine or you has some issues with it?

 

[Hellformer]

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[Hellformer]

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[Hellformer]

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[Firestorm808]

Time Powers:

Ultimate-Rex1/Sandbox:Time-Powers

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• HDP; Time Powers has 5-D up to 26-D Potency

Feats:

• UES; All characters have feats via their time powers should be has same SS, LS, AP, Durability feat due to

1. What is "Higher-Dimensional Potency" supposed to be per our Site Standards?
2. Please elaborate how Time Powers meet the qualities of Universal Energy System
   1. Site Requirements
      1. Universal Energy Systems (alternatively called a Universal Power System or a Connective Energy System) are systems in which a feat, whether it is one of physical statistics (Striking Strength or Durability) or of supernatural powers (e.g. energy beams), would also scale to all other statistics.
      2. That means if such a character for instance demonstrates a Building level fireball spell, they would be assumed to have at least Building level Striking Strength, Attack Potency and Durability.
      3. If they have other spells, like for example water blades, they would be assumed to be able to output similar attack power with those spells.
   2. Blog
      1. Time-Traveling powers users have shown to be able to be channel their energy through their physicals like Eon, with a Ben Tennyson existing throughout all of space and time[6] and prior to absorbing Ben Prime and Ultimate Ben, Eon was able to damaged the timeline so much that he ended up in a parallel world.[3]
         1. I do not see how this ties Time Powers to Physicals. Absorbing generic energy to become stronger has already occurred in the series.
      2. It can amplify humans, shown when Paradox after get his time powers, when he was a regular human beforehand, could move fast enough to blitz Ben's, Gwen's and Kevin's reaction.[7]
         1. I disagree that this is a case of Time Powers translating to proportional increases in natural speed and not just Time Hax.
      3. It is also stated that Eon after absorbing enough power from alternative Ben Tennyson would have enough strength to replace the timeline with another one where he is the only Ben Tennyson that exists.[3]
         1. I do not see how this is relevant to the UES Standards.
      4. On the contrary, upon loosing their powers, users become significally weaker, as shown when Maltruant suffered many damages, such as an blasts and hits from Rook.[8]
         1. Do you have an example of Maltruant tanking attacks without damage while he had his time powers?

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

1. What is "Higher-Dimensional Potency" supposed to be per our Site Standards?
2. Please elaborate how Time Powers meet the qualities of Universal Energy System
   1. Site Requirements
      1. Universal Energy Systems (alternatively called a Universal Power System or a Connective Energy System) are systems in which a feat, whether it is one of physical statistics (Striking Strength or Durability) or of supernatural powers (e.g. energy beams), would also scale to all other statistics.
      2. That means if such a character for instance demonstrates a Building level fireball spell, they would be assumed to have at least Building level Striking Strength, Attack Potency and Durability.
      3. If they have other spells, like for example water blades, they would be assumed to be able to output similar attack power with those spells.
   2. Blog

1. 1. Time-Traveling powers users have shown to be able to be channel their energy through their physicals like Eon, with a Ben Tennyson existing throughout all of space and time[6] and prior to absorbing Ben Prime and Ultimate Ben, Eon was able to damaged the timeline so much that he ended up in a parallel world.[3]
      1. I do not see how this ties Time Powers to Physicals. Absorbing generic energy to become stronger has already occurred in the series.

Yes, it means that time energy can increase physical statistics like Strength

1. 1. It can amplify humans, shown when Paradox after get his time powers, when he was a regular human beforehand, could move fast enough to blitz Ben's, Gwen's and Kevin's reaction.[7]
      1. I disagree that this is a case of Time Powers translating to proportional increases in natural speed and not just Time Hax.

Bruh, it literally says "move" not hax even. It even accepts that Paradox has MFTL+ travel speed via this

Massively FTL+ (Moved faster than Ben, Gwen and Kevin's reaction speed. Comparable to Eon)

1. It is also stated that Eon after absorbing enough power from alternative Ben Tennyson would have enough strength to replace the timeline with another one where he is the only Ben Tennyson that exists.[3]
   1. I do not see how this is relevant to the UES Standards.

This means that Time Powers can increase physical strength

• On the contrary, upon loosing their powers, users become significally weaker, as shown when Maltruant suffered many damages, such as an blasts and hits from Rook.[8]
  1. Do you have an example of Maltruant tanking attacks without damage while he had his time powers?

He tanking attacks from Atomic-X and Kai, and doesn't even get damage. Future Ben and Kai was even superior to Prime Ben and Rook

 

[Hellformer]

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[Hellformer]

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[Firestorm808]

Yes, it means that time energy can increase physical statistics like Strength

Bruh, it literally says "move" not hax even. It even accepts that Paradox has MFTL+ travel speed via this


This means that Time Powers can increase physical strength

He tanking attacks from Atomic-X and Kai, and doesn't even get damage. Future Ben and Kai was even superior to Prime Ben and Rook

1. You are implying that he absorbed "Time Energy" from the Bens?
2. This additions to the page was done without a CRT. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Professor_Paradox?diff=8723696&oldid=8715668
3. Again, you are implying that he absorbed "Time Energy" from the Bens?
4. In the provided scene, Maltruant appears to only takes one sword attack from Kai and dodges the rest.

 

[Lort15]

1. You are implying that he absorbed "Time Energy" from the Bens?
2. This additions to the page was done without a CRT. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Professor_Paradox?diff=8723696&oldid=871566

I guess i was the one who applied that upgrade but it was actually approved here by you and qawsedf https://vsbattles.com/threads/ben-10-professor-paradox-has-immeasurable-speed.170327/

 

[Hellformer]

1. You are implying that he absorbed "Time Energy" from the Bens?
2. This additions to the page was done without a CRT. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Professor_Paradox?diff=8723696&oldid=8715668
3. Again, you are implying that he absorbed "Time Energy" from the Bens?
4. In the provided scene, Maltruant appears to only takes one sword attack from Kai and dodges the rest.

He did tank a hit from Atomic-X at 00:39.

 

[Firestorm808]

I guess i was the one who applied that upgrade but it was actually approved here by you and qawsedf https://vsbattles.com/threads/ben-10-professor-paradox-has-immeasurable-speed.170327/

"Moved faster than Ben, Gwen and Kevin's reaction speed." is not what was discussed from the OP.

He did tank a hit from Atomic-X at 00:39.

From my perspective, it seemed more like he dodged backward. Additional opinions from other staff is appreciated.

 

[Hellformer]

"Moved faster than Ben, Gwen and Kevin's reaction speed." is not what was discussed from the OP.

Ben 10! Professor Paradox has immeasurable speed?

I get MFTL+ but infinite speed can only be accomplished with a hard confirmation of travelling an infinite distance. The universes may be infinite, but if Paradox is travelling through them on the 26th or 27th dimension they wouldn't be. Not 100% sure what you're asking here but he didn't use...

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From my perspective, it seemed more like he dodged backward. Additional opinions from other staff is appreciated.

It sounded like he got punched but thanks for your input!

 

[Firestorm808]

Ben 10! Professor Paradox has immeasurable speed?

I get MFTL+ but infinite speed can only be accomplished with a hard confirmation of travelling an infinite distance. The universes may be infinite, but if Paradox is travelling through them on the 26th or 27th dimension they wouldn't be. Not 100% sure what you're asking here but he didn't use...

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At the time, I was under the impression that we were allowing his space-time hax to apply to speed, but was unsure to be immeasurable/infinite, so we settled with MFTL+ in regard to the traveling across dimensions and stuff. There was a whole line of messages about it.

I wasn't expecting that reactions tid bit in the thread with no video link was going to be used as the justification.

 

[Hellformer]

At the time, I was under the impression that we were allowing his space-time hax to apply to speed, but was unsure to be immeasurable/infinite, so we settled with MFTL+ in regard to the traveling across dimensions stuff.

I wasn't expecting that tid bit in the thread with no video link was going to be used as the justification.

So it's a misunderstanding then.

 

[Firestorm808]

So it's a misunderstanding then.

Yeah.

I was following your post: https://vsbattles.com/threads/ben-10-professor-paradox-has-immeasurable-speed.170327/post-6718780

And Qawsedf234's post: https://vsbattles.com/threads/ben-10-professor-paradox-has-immeasurable-speed.170327/post-6718800

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

"Moved faster than Ben, Gwen and Kevin's reaction speed." is not what was discussed from the OP.


From my perspective, it seemed more like he dodged backward. Additional opinions from other staff is appreciated.

How can this be “dodged” when we can clearly see that Atomix hit him?

At the time, I was under the impression that we were allowing his space-time hax to apply to speed, but was unsure to be immeasurable/infinite, so we settled with MFTL+ in regard to the traveling across dimensions stuff.

I wasn't expecting that reactions tid bit in the thread with no video link was going to be used as the justification.

I mean which this is space-time hax? When he literally says "move so fast" and "move so quickly.", even Paradox says it's “walking.”

 

[Lort15]

"Moved faster than Ben, Gwen and Kevin's reaction speed." is not what was discussed from the OP.

forgive me, this was from the time when i just became a member of this wiki, i've applied it like reaction speed instead of combat speed i was under assumption this method was approved in the crt

Ben 10! Professor Paradox has immeasurable speed?

This CRT will heavily be focused on upscales regarding Professor Paradox's speed. 1. Professor Paradox has immeasurable attack speed. Professor Paradox could effortlessly disarm Colonum Rozum before he even arrived. How does this relate to immeasurable speed? An example of immeasurable speed is...

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edit: but isn't that obvious that the Trio can't even react to his travel speed he is literally blitzing them

 

[Lort15]

How can this be “dodged” when we can clearly see that Atomix hit him?


I mean which this is space-time hax? When he literally says "move so fast" and "move so quickly.", even Paradox says it's “walking.”

yeah it's not a dodge we can hear the punch SFX as well

 

[Hellformer]

Bump

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

Fixing:

Extrasensory Perception should change to this:
Extrasensory Perception (Mind, Soul, Life, Aura, Magic Detection and Awareness; Mana users can detect someone's mana as a form of dowsing, allowing them to track them down by either following their mana trail, detecting residual mana left on their belongings, or by becoming “attuned to the cosmic mana”. Sensing a mana also grants the user awareness of what the tracked person is doing at that very moment. Dowsing can even be used to identify someone, as demonstrated with Dr. Victor Valadis. Dimensional, Telescopic, Aura, X-Ray, Neutral, Soul, Multiple Vision; Users can use Mana Sensor to see invisible beings and dimension, invisible aura/mana, behind walls, great distances, and many different places at once. Aura [Life, Soul and Mind] & Emotion Reading; Users can read person's aura to know if he was lying or not, they also can distinguish beings with physical similarities, such as Ben and Albedo, by reading their auras. Precognition; User can predicting the next moves of his opponents, shown here and here. Technology Detection; By exploiting the incompatibility between mana and high-tech machines, the users can send out a wave of manna to intentionally disrupt a nearby piece of high-tech machinery)

• Add Mana is aura of beings, as shwon when Gwen senses mana of beings like Addwaitya, she stated his mana is aura. Also, Gwen referred to Mana as an aura.
• Add Mana is energy field, as stated here. Also Charmcaster referring to Mana as a mystical field
• Add Mana is spirit, as shwon when Gwen can sensing Ben's spirit, and it stated that Mana Sensor are only sense mana of being.

Nature of Mana

• Nonduality (Type 1; Mana is magic and non-magic, as it explained in "In Charm's Way", Charmcaster explain that Gwen's Mana are magic in nature, later in "Hero Generation Series Bible", stated that "Gwen's powers are NOT magical", meaning Mana are and aren't magic)
• Invisibility (Mana is the 'hidden' mystic life energy)
• Invulnerability ([Add to all Physiology except Elf] Magical things are immune to non-magic attacks)

Anodite Physiology:

• Accelerated Development (Others: Physical Statistics & Abilities; Anodite kids can use mana faster and surpass the others Mana masters)

Spells:

• Resistance Bestowal (User can make person have resistance to another person's mana abilities)
• Invisibility (User can create shield can make anyone inside it invisible to other users)
• Analytical Prediction (User can make spell that can use to try an upcoming true name of Legerdomain)
• Mind Manipulation or Purification [more justifications] (Type 2; User can remove the evil selves that take control of victim's body.)
• Power Nullification ([Just a justifications]; User can use Binding Spell to nullify another person's abilities)

Bump

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

• Spiritual Healing, not demonstrated.

Also it doesn't need to be Spritual Healing, as mana cleanses the body and mind from control by Darkstar. They also regenerated soul/life

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

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[Ultimate-Rex1]

Yeah.

I was following your post: https://vsbattles.com/threads/ben-10-professor-paradox-has-immeasurable-speed.170327/post-6718780

And Qawsedf234's post: https://vsbattles.com/threads/ben-10-professor-paradox-has-immeasurable-speed.170327/post-6718800

Can i add other additions that what FinePoint agreed with it, if yes, so i would add it and close this thread, since you are really busy