Cocaine Vs Meth! Franklin Saint Versus Walter White

[Vzearr]

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[Doggo]

It literally helps you outsmart people, no one claimed it's a 100 percent value.

Dude please. Did you completely ignore the points I made against that? A higher IQ implies better cognitive abilities; simply put, it makes your brain. Better at memorizing, faster thinking speed, coming up with creative solutions, reading comprehension, and general knowledge. That's good and all, but not exactly relevant in outsmarting. You need to bring a character's capacity to strategize, deceive, manipulate, and plan, which matter more in a battle of wits. No one cares if you can read better or memorize effectively if you can't even make a decent plan.


Tell me, who is more likely to outsmart the other between Napoleon and Einstein? Einstein obviously has a higher IQ, but Napoleon is a better leader, strategist, and has higher foresight. Same thing with something like Hawking vs Hitler, the latter has better social skills, charisma, mass manipulation, and planning. You're pretty insane if you think IQ is the only determinant of intelligence, since you are ignoring other forms of intelligence. Treating IQ like some power level is insane.

Also if we are debating intelligence like this, then based on the feats shown, Walter slams Franklin in IQ. Passing the SAT is cool and all, but Walt matches that with the Nobel Prize feat. However, Walt has made meth that is 99.1% pure, which requires extreme skill in chemistry, and is impossible with the poor lab equipment he has. He has used his knowledge in chemistry to create bombs and poisons. Simply put, Franklin matches Walt in academic background, but lacks direct showings.

Never made the claim he's smarter. I'm just making the claim that he's god damn smart!

Teddy wasn't corrupt, he had the backing of the CIA on the basis of his mission, he even got help against KGB agents.

That is quite literally no where near close to what Franklin has. The projects > Mike, Gus, and Jacks crew. Teddy > The DEA. Jerome and Louie and Kane > Saul, and his criminal connections, Avi > Illegal gun salesmen.

Franklin has more number, and by a long shot, he also has more experienced people like Teddy who have handled drug dealers, KGB agents, cartels, etc.

Considering Franklin found a hiding CIA agent in less than a month I severely doubt it would take a whole heap longer for Franklin to find Walter's family.

Franklin has killed LAPD officers, I doubt he wouldn't be able to kill Hank or something.

I think we're forgetting Avi was able to handle of the high level Israeli officials going after him, which is genuinely insane. Teddy was able to handle drug kingpins with ease, he was also able to man handle KGB agents, and people like Kane where able to put a pin in Franklins kingpin temporarily.

Teddy literally killed drug king pin leaders, handled KGB agents, sent multiple people to their deaths with ease and was able to handle his operation against drug kingpins with little difficulty, silencing people by himself.

Kane has access to genuinely a heap of LA's gang scens, Avi has access to weapons Jack and Mike don't have, Skully, Teddy, etc.

Yeah, but Gus is also just as smart as Walter.

"There have been only a handful of people given the nobel prize that happens once a year, therefore it's a thousand times rarer then getting a 1540 on the SAT thats given to hundreds of thousands of students a year."

See how nonsense that logic is?

No, I debunked your logic above.

Sorry, but it kinda does!

Mind giving proof? Proof that they are better than Walt's men?

 

[Vzearr]

Dude please. Did you completely ignore the points I made against that?

No I did not.

A higher IQ implies better cognitive abilities; simply put, it makes your brain. Better at memorizing, faster thinking speed, coming up with creative solutions, reading comprehension, and general knowledge.

You're missing a fair bit of things.

Fluid Reasoning Index: Makes you better at problem solving, recognising, implementing, and thinking in complex patterns, and much more.

Generally, fluid reasoning is extremely important for outsmarting, it helps you strategize, plan, recognise and much more.

No one cares if you can read better or memorize effectively if you can't even make a decent plan.

You've misunderstood FSIQ.

Tell me, who is more likely to outsmart the other between Napoleon and Einstein? Einstein obviously has a higher IQ, but Napoleon is a better leader, strategist, and has higher foresight. Same thing with something like Hawking vs Hitler, the latter has better social skills, charisma, mass manipulation, and planning. You're pretty insane if you think IQ is the only determinant of intelligence, since you are ignoring other forms of intelligence. Treating IQ like some power level is insane.

Never made that claim, stop straw manning me. Anyway's Einstein would outsmart Napoleon by a landslide, not only would he beat him in strategy due to having such a high FRI, but he'd outsmart him in planning, and everything else other than charisma. Tell me you don't understand IQ without telling me.

Also if we are debating intelligence like this, then based on the feats shown, Walter slams Franklin in IQ. Passing the SAT is cool and all, but Walt matches that with the Nobel Prize feat. However, Walt has made meth that is 99.1% pure, which requires extreme skill in chemistry, and is impossible with the poor lab equipment he has. He has used his knowledge in chemistry to create bombs and poisons. Simply put, Franklin matches Walt in academic background, but lacks direct showings.

Franklin has better manipulation, better foresight, better everything other than chemistry knowledge, please read my replies.

Mind giving proof? Proof that they are better than Walt's men?

Avi is a israeli gunrunner with access to many men and access to many weapons, he has access to so many men he's capable of fighting Israeli officials. Teddy has access to cartels, CIA, and many more. The projects has access to hundreds of men, each with guns. Jerome and Louie have access to men across many states. Kane has access to most of LA. I don't even wanna get into how much men Franklin has access too.

 

[Deadguy999]

Never made that claim, stop straw manning me. Anyway's Einstein would outsmart Napoleon by a landslide, not only would he beat him in strategy due to having such a high FRI, but he'd outsmart him in planning, and everything else other than charisma. Tell me you don't understand IQ without telling me

Bro Einstein ain’t planning a thing except coming up with new fomulas

 

[Vzearr]

Bro Einstein ain’t planning a thing except coming up with new fomulas

Nice logic bro.

 

[Doggo]

No I did not.

You're missing a fair bit of things.

Fluid Reasoning Index: Makes you better at problem solving, recognising, implementing, and thinking in complex patterns, and much more.

Generally, fluid reasoning is extremely important for outsmarting, it helps you strategize, plan, recognise and much more.

You've misunderstood FSIQ.

Never made that claim, stop straw manning me. Anyway's Einstein would outsmart Napoleon by a landslide, not only would he beat him in strategy due to having such a high FRI, but he'd outsmart him in planning, and everything else other than charisma. Tell me you don't understand IQ without telling me.

Franklin has better manipulation, better foresight, better everything other than chemistry knowledge, please read my replies.

Avi is a israeli gunrunner with access to many men and access to many weapons, he has access to so many men he's capable of fighting Israeli officials. Teddy has access to cartels, CIA, and many more. The projects has access to hundreds of men, each with guns. Jerome and Louie have access to men across many states. Kane has access to most of LA. I don't even wanna get into how much men Franklin has access too.

Did you seriously say Einstein>Napoloean in STRATEGY?!?!? Holy what a way to discredit yourself.

FRI may make you a good problem solver,, and also applies to strategy, but going over actual feats, Napoleon negs Einstein. Mr. Fantastic has a higher FRI than Johan Liebert, but does that make him a better manipulator? Rick Sanchez has a higher FRI than Light Yagami. Does that make him a better planner than Light? Better FRI does not mean you beat the other guy in strategy at all. I'd argue Walt has high FRI too, given how creative his solutions were when dealing with complex problems, like his strategy to make Tuco agree to his terms.


FSIQ is only relevant in FS not NFS matchups like this. So no, I am not misunderstanding it.

Anywaym regardless on on who we thinkin is smarter, its irrelavant. You presented the fact Franklin has some insane influnce, I personally see no way Walt can deal with a guy who contend with folks who has fought whole governments,

 

[Doggo]

This is just stomp with the influence difference

 

[Vzearr]

FRI may make you a good problem solver,, and also applies to strategy, but going over actual feats, Napoleon negs Einstein.

You're right. I was wrong.

Anyway's Franklin wins.

 

[Deadguy999]

That’s enough arguments for me to vote for walter

 

[Vzearr]

That’s enough arguments for me to vote for walter

On what basis. Just wondering.

 

[Deadguy999]

On what basis. Just wondering.

Strategy. Way better skill for men.

 

[Vzearr]

Strategy. Way better skill for men.

 

[Vzearr]

How Mike feels after getting attacked by a crew 10x the size of Jack's and then tanking all their gunshots only to one tap all of them.

 

[Vzearr]

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[Deadguy999]

How Vzearr felt defending his favourite character

 

[Vzearr]

How Vzearr felt defending his favourite character

Deadguy99 spending 30 hours fostering up this meme.

 

[Deadguy999]

I just remembered to reply

 

[Deadguy999]

U think I just sit in front of my device all day

 

[Deadguy999]

You would do that 24/7. But I’m not like you

 

[Vzearr]

You would do that 24/7. But I’m not like you

Yo this guys PISSED

 

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[Arsuzz]

Walter seems more cunning and intelligent. He will secretly study Franklin and trap him. I vote for Heisenberg

 

[Vzearr]

Walter seems more cunning and intelligent. He will secretly study Franklin and trap him. I vote for Heisenberg

How does that even make sense. How is he gonna study someone who’s completely hidden from him.