Questions on CM type 1 hierarchy

[Ommf_Deity]

If type 1 Concept manipulated other type 1 Concept(s), does that makes the concept High 1-A?

Also if type 1 Concept existed before other type 1 Conceptual framework reality, does that also makes it High 1-A?

Thanks in advance.

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

 

[Ommf_Deity]

An explanation would be nice if possible

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

If type 1 Concept manipulated other type 1 Concept(s), does that makes the concept High 1-A?

Manipulating stuff does not imply any superiority, and for High 1A you need a 1A realm or character to argue that.

Also if type 1 Concept existed before other type 1 Conceptual framework reality, does that also makes it High 1-A?

Predating a certain concept does not necessarily imply any superiority over it. As stated above, you also need a 1A realm. High 1A also requires superiority, so no.

 

[Vietthai96]

Type 1 concept isn't default to be 1-A to begin with, let alone a type 1 concept manipulate another type 1 concept is high 1-A

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

concept is high 1-A

Fix the mistake.

 

[Vietthai96]

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

Type 1 concept manipulating another Type 1 concept is High 1-A, confirmed by a staff member. Time to argue High 1-A For my verse, I will obtain it at last.

 

[Vietthai96]

The wank is real

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

The wank is real

Unbeatable this time. No Ultima to get in the way.

 

[Ommf_Deity]

Manipulating stuff does not imply any superiority, and for High 1A you need a 1A realm or character to argue that.

Even in the same way the conceptual manipulation does?

Predating a certain concept does not necessarily imply any superiority over it.

Also meant it in the same type 1 concepts justify

As stated above, you also need a 1A realm. High 1A also requires superiority, so no.

Well, whats the difference from what I said?

 

[Ommf_Deity]

Type 1 concept isn't default to be 1-A to begin with

I mean, I already knows type 1 CM isn't in defult 1-A.
But isn't it independent universal based of plato theory, that affects reality beyond quantive measurements, also many scaling wikis accept it

, let alone a type 1 concept manipulate another type 1 concept is high 1-A

I obviously meant it the same way conceptual manipulation works or whats so ever

 

[Ommf_Deity]

Chat am I getting cooked? Or nah

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

Even in the same way the conceptual manipulation does?

yes.

Also meant it in the same type 1 concepts justify

yes.

Well, whats the difference from what I said?

like @Vietthai96 "Type 1 concept isn't default to be 1-A to begin with" and what do you mean by that

Chat am I getting cooked? Or nah

you cooked .

 

[Ommf_Deity]

like @Vietthai96 "Type 1 concept isn't default to be 1-A to begin with"

"I mean, I already knows type 1 CM isn't in defult 1-A.
But isn't it independent universal based of plato theory, that affects reality beyond quantive measurements, also many scaling wikis accept it"

and what do you mean by that

The conceptual framework reality and 1-A realm

you cooked .

I'll just hang in then

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

"I mean, I already knows type 1 CM isn't in defult 1-A.
But isn't it independent universal based of plato theory, that affects reality beyond quantive measurements, also many powerscaling wikis accept it"

plato theory is 1A and 0 here .

The conceptual framework reality and 1-A realm

Predating a 1-A realm or conceptual framework reality isnt High 1-A. You need to prove the thing in question exists in a different hierarchy than the 1A framework. Same for manipulating it.

 

[Ommf_Deity]

plato theory is 1A and 0 here .

I already knows, also depend on how it's shown in the verse

Predating a 1-A realm or conceptual framework reality isnt High 1-A. You need to prove the thing in question exists in a different hierarchy than the 1A framework. Same for manipulating it.

Well ok thanks, so a mention of it begin beyond or in a differnt scales, + the said context should be enough

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

Well ok thanks, so a mention of it begin beyond or in a differnt scales, + the said context should be enough

If the “beyond” isn’t just a vague statement, but transcends all layers, or the quality that define 1-A in that context, then it will be High 1-A. And the operating on a different scale part depending on the context it can qualify as High 1-A.

 

[Ommf_Deity]

If the “beyond” isn’t just a vague statement

When I said it, I didn't means like exist outside or something just meant bigger

And the operating on a different scale part depending on the context it can qualify as High 1-A.

On a different scale meant like higher lvl of existence.

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

On a different scale meant like higher lvl of existence.

Then it is higher in 1-A, since it is the same continuum and the same quality.

 

[Ommf_Deity]

Then it is higher in 1-A, since it is the same continuum and the same quality.

OK , also what do you mean by "same continuum and quality" in the context?

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

OK , also what do you mean by "same continuum and quality" in the context?

This: since High 1-A transcends 1-A layers the same way 1-A transcends non-1-A layers, the reason being that a higher-level existence than 1-A does not mean a change in quality. The word “higher” means within the same continuum without change, like higher than this, higher than that before, higher than the rest, etc., and “quality” refers to qualitative, so they will still be qualitative layers, they can also be quantitative layers whin baseline 1A meaning they arent meta qualitative due to the continuum.

 

[Ommf_Deity]

This: since High 1-A transcends 1-A layers the same way 1-A transcends non-1-A layers, the reason being that a higher-level existence than 1-A does not mean a change in quality. The word “higher” means within the same continuum without change, like higher than this, higher than that, higher than the rest, etc., and “quality” refers to qualitative, so they will still be qualitative layers or even quantitative layers whin baseline 1A meaning they arent meta qualitative due to the continuum.

OK cool , thx again.

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

OK cool , thx again.

You’re welcome.

 

[Ommf_Deity]

Then it is higher in 1-A, since it is the same continuum and the same quality.

F****ck. I read it as High 1-A, and thought you accepted it