It very much
appears to be invisible even though the punch doesn't hit the opponent from completely outside their vision.
Yeah, because that's the manga's way of portraying how the jabs work, but it's impossible to actually turn your fist invisible just by attacking from a blind spot. That's just not how the human eye works. The attacks are difficult to deal with because dealing with stuff from your blind spot is difficult in general but they are not actually turning invisible to the naked eye.
This is just downplaying the technique shown. Of course, irl boxers can throw jabs outside of their opponent's vision but no irl boxer is throwing a series of fast jabs aimed at their opponent's blind spots. That's just dumb. It's also not something any fighter can account for, because you simply can't if you don't see it coming before.
So irl boxers can do it but they also can't? The Phantom Jab is just throwing blows outside of your opponent's vision, being able to throw them in succession doesn't make them a feat that's impossible to replicate or deal with in real life. Why would it be?
His danger sense and instincts work together. His danger sense enables him to distinguish blows he can't take head on and his intincts enables him to block, evade and slip them.
Then why mention them individually? On its own the danger sense does nothing.
Can't quote the next part on mobile cuz it's all blue text, but, he didn't completely evade the first blow, you can see on the second page the effects of the blow on his face. You can "evade" something without cleanly dodging it, not to mention the guy only says Riku only evaded it "pretty accurately." Slipping punches also only mitigates the damage, it's not like he was completely dodging the guy's blows, he was just moving with them to lessen the damage as much as possible and then countered. Even Jean can do this. In the end, Riku will still take some damage no matter what he does.
You can't "glance around a bit" in a fight lmao. That'll just make you get hit by punches coming straight to yoyou.
Jean has been in fights with multiple armed people at once, he can afford to split his vision while also avoiding attacks. Riku only has two arms to begin with, he has a limited number of attack variations he can throw that would require Jean to massively look away from him and get hit. Not to mention he would only ever need to split his vision if Riku spends the entire fight constantly throwing Phantom attacks.
I just listed some attack evasion feats from Riku. Never said he'd drop his guard aganist Jean.
You literally said he moved without a guard. The profile lists him being able to move better without a guard. What are you talking about? Those feats also, again, don't show him flawlessly evading attacks, he just mitigates the damage and counters.
This doesn't mean he's above them in acrobatics and body cocontrol.
He is definitely above them in terms of body control because his entire thing is that he trains body control, and K, one of the best boxing coaches in the world, considers people on Ryu and Qasim's level as "a dime a dozen" in comparison to people on Jean Pierre's level, despite having seen both of them and recognized their talent.
Also, Riku's acrobatic style is much more than this. Another character who used Riku's style stated that they were so light as if gravity didn't exist for them anymore, and that their punches can come from anywhere.
That's just an expression, and doesn't really sound any different from Ryu's stuff, which can also launch attacks from anywhere.
Explain to me how this makes him bypass Riku's acrobatics.
Because he would be able to move with more fluidity than Riku if he needed to. All geniuses in The Boxer have "freedom," and even people like Siha can pull off moves like Ryu's due to their talent, despite being far lower on the talent chain. Jean's level of genius and freedom surpassing Ryu's means he could replicate or counter moves like his relatively easily, especially since we know that people like him are merely big fish in a small pond in comparison to the real deal like Jean Pierre.
Riku can fight a whole round with a fractured, later broken ribcage and even used that injury as bait to counter his opponent. Fought another dude while having a busted eardrum for multiple rounds. Continued fighting for multiple rounds despite having broken ribs, busted left eye, fractured fist and an injured foot. He also boxed for 3 hours aganist two boxers above his weightclass. If anyone's getting outlasted, it's definitely Jean.
Unless Riku is getting particularly egregious hits against Jean, I really doubt he will go down before Riku, especially since he is nearly twice as strong and with his punching accuracy. Riku was also taking breaks between rounds and wearing head gear, so it's not the same as actually fighting 3 uninterrupted hours with your bare flesh. And even if he doesn't, Riku will still be the one worse off than Jean the more he gets injured, making it that much easier for him to continuously keep Riku in check the more injuries pile up. It's not like Riku fought for 3 hours but was still able to maintain full form, he was barely making it.
It's been stated early on (in his second pro match to be exact) that Riku's punches have their own peciluar timing. Him having standard habits has never been stated to be a thing, so I assume that he doesn't have them either.
What? Just because it's never said he has habits doesn't make him have none. Everyone has habits unless it's explicitly said they have none. And if Riku's punches have their own timing, then that is LITERALLY a peculiar habit of his that can be exploited and predicted.
Riku can also partially change his fighting style. He can box with both southpaw and orthodox stances, fight as a counter puncher, outboxer and in fighter. He was stated to be just as dangerous up close as he is from middle range.
Jean can also do this, and this still doesn't explain why Riku would have no habits simply because he can do something Jean can also do. Does Jean now have no habits?
This doesn't change the fact that his anpr got bypassed by Ryu though.
What's your point?
Not what that means. Having a lot of attack variations doesn't mean they are unpredictable, it's how you throw them out that matters. The fact that Riku can even specifically note out the changes in his rhythm and timing means he was reading them, he just didn't have the skill to respond at the time.
Sure. On screen feats wise though, Ryu has the most so I'll obviously compare him to Hyodo rather than Jean who can supposedly do this but never showed that he does (at least I don't see it in his profile).
The profile is old and bad, and Jean doesn't even specifically need to use this kind of fighting, he's a very technical out-boxer, it just gives him the know how required to predict and respond to it.
Hyodo having to train while Ryu never having to doesn't mean that Ryu's above Hyodo. Potential wise, sure, but just being gifted doesn't neccesarily mean he's above someone who isn't as "gifted" him.
It kinda does mean that, tho. If you achieve something through training and someone else achives it simply because they are born that good, then that difference is notable. Ryu's fighting style is like Hyodo's when he's playing around, and when he gets serious it can get a lot more unpredictable.
Where's the rest of the scene? I wanna see how he got shut down.
Just read chapter 25. Can't screenshot it all rn.
EDIT: Lied, got a chance to get
the scans. He basically slips the blow, body shot, then switched stances and delivered a right.
I already explained this above so.
And as I explained in turn, you're still wrong.
His instincts aren't a state he gets into. He has them from his past traumas. They're a part of his style.
I meant that it's not like he's dodging every attack via instincts, he can still get normally hit or not respond completely intuitively to attacks all the time. Just like most characters with Instincts, unless they're really busted.
