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The Nasuverse Profiles Problem

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Good morning/afternoon/evening everyone.

As most of you already know, the Nasuverse profiles have undergone some recent changes, based on content revisions made by the user Wankbreaker. The big issue, the major stumbling block, is that this user — now banned — not only demonstrably carried out all these revisions in a shoddy manner, with lies, deception, and manipulation, purely to satisfy their personal opinions about the verse, but also these revisions left the profiles in a completely deplorable, messy state, much worse than before. Nasuverse profiles are, as far as I know, the only ones within VS Battles where such grotesque errors have not yet been corrected and left for the public. Aiming for organization and transparency — two points highly demanded by the administrators of this site — this thread proposes that all revisions made by Wankbreaker should be reverted to their previous state.

To better illustrate this thread, here are some of the profiles and their errors:

1. Space Ishtar — Listed as "Universe+ level, possibly Planetary level" in her tier.

2. Artoria — Her speed in her most powerful version is lower than in her weakest version.

3. Zelretch — His tier is set as 2-A, but the tier explanation places him as 5-B.

4. BB — The profile explains why Moon Cell is 8D; the character, however, is 5-B, despite having control over an 8D structure.

5. Kama — Relativistic speed, but described as unrestricted in relation to the temporal axis.

6. The Machine Gods — The justification for their speed lists how they are less fast than an FTL beam of light. In other words: the justification for speed is an "anti-feat".

7. Speaking of this topic, Tiamat and Kiara also have their speeds listed as Relativistic, but Kiara's profile includes an explanation of how she moves beyond the temporal axis, and Tiamat is comparable to Kiara in speed.

8. The Fate/Grand Order verse page still lists the Beasts as Low 1-C, possibly 1-C.

9. Arjuna Alter's profile has, in its tier justification, a description of how he is Planetary Level when destroying a 6D structure.


There are many other examples, but I believe the ones cited above are enough to show how poorly done these revisions were. This is because Wankbreaker's concern was never to actually update the verse: he is a person who was already banned from this wiki, but returned with a fake account, and, surprisingly, he committed the crime of using his ex-girlfriend's identity without her knowledge or permission — for one whole year. All his revisions were made with personal opinions and tastes, all with lies, manipulations, things taken completely out of context, and even an episode where the user created a cutscene that never existed to "prove his point". As if all this wasn't enough, he used third-party translations — which were very suspicious, by the way — and AI to translate the texts, even though he was a member of the translation team.

I believe this is already enough to show the true level of these revisions and why they should be undone.
 
I'd also bring up that Wankbreaker/BasedNeroScaler has a Kindergarten understanding of Japanese, AKA N5 level comprehension. Essentially, it's basically guaranteed that every single one of their translations either weren't done by them and offsite, or were done poorly at best. Mind you these translations were what they used for their CRTs in the first place... AKA, we genuinely cannot verify the quality of their translations that they used for their revisions. Were the previous ratings good? ehhhhhhh? But they were a damn side better than a rogue agent doing things poorly and whom didn't even want to apply the CRTs they made, to the point of Ghosting staff for months.
 
I agree with the CRT and hope the Nasuverse can maybe start heading in the right direction moving forward, however I also think it's important not to sway too far off topic and keep Wank and whatever they have done out of the CRT to lessen potential drama.
 
seems fine but my question is how did NO ONE notice any of this when he was here?
A lot of supporters weren't active while he was here, and he had some perceived authority as a Staff member, so people didn't question it.
This situation is so crazy that when Wankbreaker's ex-girlfriend found out what he was doing, he offered her $20 in gift cards so she wouldn't spread around that he was a criminal and a liar.
I think he also tried to grab her IP address to try to prevent her from talking about it?
however I also think it's important not to sway too far off topic and keep Wank and whatever they have done out of the CRT to lessen potential drama.
Fair enough.
 
These edits were done in a biased effort to downgrade the Nasuverse, per Wankbreaker/BasedNeroScaler's own admission (they stated that there's a point where "the wank goes out of control" or something along those lines). Combined with their poor quality and the fact that Wankbreaker/BasedNeroScaler was almost certainly using AI to translate sections out of context, I believe that this is a reasonable thing to do.

The Nasu profiles were already inaccurate and of middling quality to the point a scorched earth approach and lockdown was in the works well before Wankbreaker/BasedNeroScaler got their hands on the verse. At the very least, these poor quality revisions should be rolled back to the last point when the Nasu profiles were even semi-accurate and presentable.
 
At this point in time, all Nasuverse profiles are labeled as outdated and under construction. With 300+ profiles associated with the verse, errors are to be expected. It's an ongoing process right now. Creation of a cosmology and scaling page is pending. Once everything has been clean-up and settled, the outdated labels will be removed.
 
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At this point in time, all Nasuverse profiles are labeled as outdated and under construction. With 300+ profiles associated with the verse, errors are to be expected. It's an ongoing process right now. Creation of a cosmology and scaling page in pending. Once everything has been clean-up and settled, the outdated labels will be removed.
This thread is not meant to remove the "outdated" label, just undo the revisions Marshadow/Wankbreaker created.
 
At this point in time, all Nasuverse profiles are labeled as outdated and under construction. With 300+ profiles associated with the verse, errors are to be expected. It's an ongoing process right now. Creation of a cosmology and scaling page is pending. Once everything has been clean-up and settled, the outdated labels will be removed.
This isn't to remove the outdated label, but to at the very least have the profiles be returned to a state where they are presentable and semi-accurate, even if still of poor quality and inaccurate on the broad scale. There's a very large difference between being outdated and being... what is stated in the OP, where ratings are not even consistent within the profiles themselves.
 
At this point in time, all Nasuverse profiles are labeled as outdated and under construction. With 300+ profiles associated with the verse, errors are to be expected. It's an ongoing process right now. Creation of a cosmology and scaling page is pending. Once everything has been clean-up and settled, the outdated labels will be removed.
As Shift said, the proposal of this thread is not to remove the outdated labels, since the entire verse will receive a rework soon.

The point is to undo all the changes applied by Wankbreaker, since they are so bad that they can be considered straight up vandalism.
 
Yes. As Shift said again, the original plan was for the profiles, even if they returned, to be locked and marked as Outdated until the revisions made by the verse's supporters were posted.

Wankbreaker, however, was against this and, purposefully, wanted to start this series of revisions which, as mentioned and proven, were made based on his opinion, where he never used any translation made by him, but rather biased third-party translations or AI-generated translations.

This means that what he wanted to do was literally vandalism, and that's how the profiles are now: vandalized.
 
The original plan IIRC was to either nuke the profiles completely or lock them down and slap them with the "Outdated" tag until the big CRTs came about.
Honestly, the profiles and P&A pages were obsolete even without Wankbreaker being a schmuck, so until the Fate scholars are done cooking I support nuking the verse
 
As Shift said, the proposal of this thread is not to remove the outdated labels, since the entire verse will receive a rework soon.

The point is to undo all the changes applied by Wankbreaker, since they are so bad that they can be considered straight up vandalism.
The cause for the inconsistent edits is due to the use of a staff bot in an attempt to mass edit the many profiles, not Wankbreaker themselves.

Discussions to re-examine the previous revisions will be done in a separate thread.

Regarding rolling back all the profiles, I am neutral on the matter.
 
Honestly, the profiles and P&A pages were obsolete even without Wankbreaker being a schmuck, so until the Fate scholars are done cooking I support nuking the verse
Eh, nuking the verse didn't really do anything, and I think leaving them with the "Outdated" template is fine. Plus, I think the site's policy changed to prevent verse's that are actively being worked on to be deleted.
 
Honestly, the profiles and P&A pages were obsolete even without Wankbreaker being a schmuck, so until the Fate scholars are done cooking I support nuking the verse
Mind you, this is what a Versus Thread looks like trying to use a Fate profile with his revisions:

 
Mind you, this is what a Versus Thread looks like trying to use a Fate profile with his revisions:

I would have thought that you can't use a profile that is labeled as outdated for any matches. The point of being outdated is that the profile is subject to change.
 
The cause for the inconsistent edits is due to the use of a staff bot in an attempt to mass edit the many profiles, not Wankbreaker themselves.

Discussions to re-examine the previous revisions will be done in a separate thread.

Regarding rolling back all the profiles, I am neutral on the matter.

He was the one that did some of the AP and speed edits.

Speaking of which, he edited it so that No Name has a speed rating in his AP section.
 
Attack Potency: Large Island level+ (Possesses C-Rank Strength, making him stronger than his Fate/stay night counterpart. Can fight against and defeat Gawain), higher with Triple-Linked Crane Wings (Comparable to his Fate/stay night counterpart), Kanshou and Bakuya: Overedge (Capable of taking off one of Berserker's lives when used by Fate/stay night counterpart). Small Country level with Excalibur Galatine (Comparable to an A Rank Noble Phantasm: Excalibur Image, Hrunting, Caladbolg II. All are comparable to his Fate/stay night counterpart<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/No_Name_(Archer)#cite_note-AP0-1"><span>[</span>Statistics Values 1<span>]</span></a>). At least Large Island level+ up to Small Country level with Unlimited Blade Works (Comparable to his Fate/stay night counterpart<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/No_Name_(Archer)#cite_note-AP0-1"><span>[</span>Statistics Values 1<span>]</span></a>) | Relativistic (Should be comparable to the speed levels of the Aletheia Machine Gods. Ares barely reacted to Chaos's FTL Authority beam,which was fired from at least 20 Kilometers in the sky. Mash and Fujimaru did not register the attack or the movement of Ares,saying that his Saint Graph reading just completely vanished all of a sudden.)
Lmao what the heck is this, look what he did
 
I’m mostly a lurker and not a staff… But I’ve been around long enough and remembered the first time Nasuverse got to Tier 1 here. And I’ve heard all the stuff said here already. I think Nasuverse needs new standards, a Power System/UES page, cosmology, and all that. But that can wait!

Needless to say, I agree with the OP.
 
I’m mostly a lurker and not a staff… But I’ve been around long enough and remembered the first time Nasuverse got to Tier 1 here. And I’ve heard all the stuff said here already. I think Nasuverse needs new standards, a Power System/UES page, cosmology, and all that. But that can wait!

Needless to say, I agree with the OP.
All can be done cohesively and comprehensively. Just… jeez, it’s gonna take a lot of time. But that time shorten drastically once one starts, which we already did…
 

He was the one that did some of the AP and speed edits.

Speaking of which, he edited it so that No Name has a speed rating in his AP section.
Lmao what the heck is this, look what he did
Looking at this again, No Name straight up doesn't have an AP rating for his Mythologic Mystic Code key anymore. It's been entirely replaced by the Speed section.
 
Looking at the og profile, even the hax tier list misses justificaton:
  • Dimensional Manipulation (Merged with and can control the Mooncell, which can create 8 dimensional spaces)

  • Sealing (Can seal foes in the Imaginary Number Space)
  • Power Nullification (Aurea Bocula can nullify its target's supernatural abilities and powers. It can strip away the information and powers of others through her command over the Imaginary Number Space. Can nullify Subjective Reality with her Authority)

    no scans for it
 
All can be done cohesively and comprehensively. Just… jeez, it’s gonna take a lot of time. But that time shorten drastically once one starts, which we already did…
Pretty much this. Y'all need to have patience. The Fate Bois have been hard at work at making a big-ass cosmology page for the verse, its energy systems and what-have-you, including completely rebuilt profiles and shit. We are already doing the bare due diligence of locking the profiles up and putting the Outdated tag on them until then.

The great big evil Wankbreaker is gone now, so stop bringing his creep ass up. All his shit will be undone slowly but surely, and hopefully this time without any stupid opposition.
 
Pretty much this. Y'all need to have patience. The Fate Bois have been hard at work at making a big-ass cosmology page for the verse, its energy systems and what-have-you, including completely rebuilt profiles and shit. We are already doing the bare due diligence of locking the profiles up and putting the Outdated tag on them until then.

The great big evil Wankbreaker is gone now, so stop bringing his creep ass up. All his shit will be undone slowly but surely, and hopefully this time without any stupid opposition.
That’s awesome! Rooting for ya all.

What else would need to be done for this thread specifically though? Are we gonna delete the verse until the revamps come, or will we just revert everything to 2023/2022, before that person tampered with things?
 
That’s awesome! Rooting for ya all.

What else would need to be done for this thread specifically though? Are we gonna delete the verse until the revamps come, or will we just revert everything to 2023/2022, before that person tampered with things?
Since it's unlikely that the verse will be deleted again, I hope this thread approves the later.

Yeah, the profiles are all outdated, but they weren't also vandalized as they are right now.
 
i don't see the problem with reverting wankbreakers messed up changes
that seems to be the only solution other than deleting the verse again
 
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