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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

Is anyone still having any planned CRTs or Ongoing CRTs? Cause I have a CRT in mind regarding the piccaro feat and potential scaling upscale if it gets accepted.
 
Excellence616 said:
Pretty sure power has nothing to do as a criteria for joining the Zero Division unless Zaraki, Yamamoto and Unohana might be ask to join.

iirc the criteria for joining the Zero Division is massively contributing to the Soul Society.
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You're right about that. In the Q&A, it's stated that Senjumaru was recruited into Squad Zero because he was the one who created the Shihakusho. However, in the novel, it was specifically stated that they invited Kuruyashiki because of his "strength."
 
Specterxxxx said:
Is anyone still having any planned CRTs or Ongoing CRTs? Cause I have a CRT in mind regarding the piccaro feat and potential scaling upscale if it gets accepted.
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I had an Espada CRT to make. If your CRT isn't about Espada's rank but just increasing the AP rating of some attacks through Picarro's black hole, you might as well make the first CRT.
 
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ItsMeat said:
It might be useable for speed scaling, if you go with gillian cero=lightspeed and first episodes ichigo reacted to and blocked a cero from a Gillian, scale this to relativistic reaction speed, then go with 20% base byakuya blitzing a far faster and stronger version of this ichigo and then go with multipliers and so on. I did such a calc once(it was wrong tho) and obtained absurd values like around 2 billions of time sol for shinigami aizen. One could also use senbonzakura kageyoshi being faster than shikai ichigo who is relateable to shikai byakuya, who is superior to bankai renji, who(and now we use multipliers) is superior to the renji who went extreme diff with shikai ichigo, having 100million petals and ichigo deflecting all those 100million attacks moving towards him at double the speed that was greater than that of shikai ichigo. And then, just spam multipliers.

The only problem is gin's "mach 500" statement, but even that can be argued against to some degree.
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Will there be a debate about Senjumaru's reiatsu?
It's interesting that it started in the palace and then shook the SS, LW, and Hueco Mundo, affecting one dimension from another.
Is there any information about the interdimensional effects of reiatsu?
 
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But Like does their speed scale to their reiatsu (like passive ones yk)?. Afaik, it's kinda invisible and already there when they flex it and like no one seems to be able to dodge it.


also just wondering, can there be layers for enhanced senses? if so i think bleach character may have some layers (mainly arrancar like them being able see to orihime when she wore that braclete given by ulq).
 
SacredDao said:
But Like does their speed scale to their reiatsu (like passive ones yk)?. Afaik, it's kinda invisible and already there when they flex it and like no one seems to be able to dodge it.


also just wondering, can there be layers for enhanced senses? if so i think bleach character may have some layers (mainly arrancar like them being able see to orihime when she wore that braclete given by ulq).
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These senses and invisibility things should already be explained in shinigami and hollow psychology.

My view is that a revision of the universe's speed system is inevitable. On the one hand, does Senjumaru's reiatsu's interdimensional influence extend to the Dangai and the transition points of other dimensions, even the Garganta, or could the reiatsu originate from a single point and bypass these points towards the end of its range? After all, the reiatsu's influence is recorded as AP on the profile, and the answer to this question could have some bearing on things.
 
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Ralp0054 said:
These senses and invisibility things should already be explained in shinigami and hollow psychology.

My view is that a revision of the universe's speed system is inevitable. On the one hand, does Senjumaru's reiatsu's interdimensional influence extend to the Dangai and the transition points of other dimensions, even the Garganta, or could the reiatsu originate from a single point and bypass these points towards the end of its range? After all, the reiatsu's influence is recorded as AP on the profile, and the answer to this question could have some bearing on things.
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hmm couldn't find for hollow physiology since like they would have greater ehnanced senses than soul reaper who could even see spirit ribbon but shouldn't be able to see orihime with braclete. i just checked orihime profile, they mention this stuff there but it should be also in arrancar physiology.

well my main concern was like who would even scale to her reiatsu speed? but talking about range, i think at the very least it definitely goes through dangai given it's in between them and reiatsu has never shown to teleport.
 
its just ss to lw my bad, But I still think reiatsu speed, its range and whether it does not bypass is worth discussing.

 
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Ralp0054 said:
I'll take a look at the psychologies.

on the one hand Living world and SS are connected to each other with dangai, but there is an infinite garganta between them and Hueco Mundo, so the reiatsu speed in question should be far beyond if the conditions are right, if I'm not missing something I'll open a discussion for this.
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Please do and yeah i guess so but i can see someone raising question like "it would mean ichigo or any other soul reaper would have infinite or something similar speed if we go via this" since as in sometimes they do travel to wol or soul society via garganta.
 
SacredDao said:
Please do and yeah i guess so but i can see someone raising question like "it would mean ichigo or any other soul reaper would have infinite or something similar speed if we go via this" since as in sometimes they do travel to wol or soul society via garganta.
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The bracelet allows Orihime to pass through solid objects and be visible only to Arancars, I looked it up because I didn't remember the details.
 
Ralp0054 said:
its just ss to lw my bad, But I still think reiatsu speed, its range and whether it does not bypass is worth discussing.

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Actually, this issue I am focusing on was discussed in Senjumaru's bankai scaling in November 2023, but I think the issue was not approached solidly, I think better inferences could have been made and still can be made.
 
PizzaDante67 said:
Wouldnt only First Fusion Aizen and above, Dangai/Mugetsu/True Shikai and True Bankai Ichigo, Almighty active and Soul King absorbed Yhwach, Full power Hikone, Soul King Fragment absorbed Ikomikidomoe, Cfyow Zaraki and other squad 0 members scale to or above her feat?

Also, i don’t think that it was ever implied that base Aizen and Yamamoto scale to a squad 0 members true power. Sure they are above their suppressed state but true power? Don’t think so.

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Post Awakening Uryu, Post 0 Squad Training Renji, Post 0 Squad Training Byakuya, TYBW Zaraki, Post Zombie Revival Kid Toshiro (the one that 1 v 1’d Gerard who one shotted Renji by blowing air at him) and his stronger forms, God Size Gerard and his stronger forms and Almighty Jugram should all scale to or above Bankai Senjumaru as well. You could even argue Fullbring Bankai Ichigo based on Unohana putting him in the same tier as Renji and Byakuya as a challenge for Post Muken Kenny, and for a broken Bankai, Shihakusho-less, zanpakuto spirit-less off guard Ichigo instinctively blitzing sealed Tenjiro
 
Specterxxxx said:
Is anyone still having any planned CRTs or Ongoing CRTs? Cause I have a CRT in mind regarding the piccaro feat and potential scaling upscale if it gets accepted.
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I wanted to make a hollow regen crt, because their physiology page currently lacks it. Suggestions and input are welcome. What I have most doubts about is safwy implying hollow regen would have made Roca regenerate her smashed head(but she couldn't use it cuz she was an arrancar, therefore she was saved by her threads).

The doubts come from shinigami traditionally slicing hollows' necks in orther to kill them. Would this also give mid regen negation for Shinigami?
 
ItsMeat said:
The doubts come from shinigami traditionally slicing hollows' necks in orther to kill them. Would this also give mid regen negation for Shinigami?
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Which Shinigami killed a hollow by beheading it?

It might apply to Arrancar, not Hollows. But Ulquiorra's statement that he can't regenerate his internal organs or limbs (am I remember correctly? Did he say limbs?) seems to disprove this. Perhaps only Rooka can regenerate her head.
 
Apollonir.Scale said:
Which Shinigami killed a hollow by beheading it?
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Rukia tells ichigo in the first few chapters that's how shinigami kill hollows(orihime's brother mini arc)
Apollonir.Scale said:
It might apply to Arrancar, not Hollows. But Ulquiorra's statement that he can't regenerate his internal organs or limbs (am I remember correctly? Did he say limbs?) seems to disprove this. Perhaps only Rooka can regenerate her head.
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Arrancars lose their regen when taking off their masks. However, when in ressurection, they regain some of their regen abilities(even if most of them are traded for power). Even vizards have some regenerative capacities(like tosen regenerating his arm that was broken by komamura)
 
I've finished my CRT as far as I'm concerned and I also added the other members of Xcution to the verse page. Kinda jank, but at least people know they're there. Kanonji has his page and Jackie was changed to 443.5 PT, with Tsukishima just having a justification addition for his rating.
Didn't even take a month to complete, so I'm happy.
 
Now that the greatest charcter ever created has a page. its team to cook up matches for him. anyone got any ideas for the Don to fight?
 
This is his profile
Relevant stats:
AP is at least 10-B, 9-A with his energy attacks (0.0057 Tons)
SS is at least 10-B
Dura is 9-A (0.0057 Tons)
Speed is at least Subsonic (Mach 0.1) with Supersonic reactions (mach 1.4828)
LS is Class M (164,887.8 Metric Tons)
Go wild lol
 
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DragonZeroNova said:
I've finished my CRT as far as I'm concerned and I also added the other members of Xcution to the verse page. Kinda jank, but at least people know they're there. Kanonji has his page and Jackie was changed to 443.5 PT, with Tsukishima just having a justification addition for his rating.
Didn't even take a month to complete, so I'm happy.
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Congrats on escaping bump limbo.
 
Why is Ichigo's bankai considered a 2x multiple? Wasn't it stated by Yoruichi that Bankai gives a 5 to 10x increase?

Edit: Because it's a fake bankai?
 
Apollonir.Scale said:
Why is Ichigo's bankai considered a 2x multiple? Wasn't it stated by Yoruichi that Bankai gives a 5 to 10x increase?

Edit: Because it's a fake bankai?
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The 5 to 10x statement is treated for it's speed specifically,as that's it's specialty(bankai "boosts" are treated as a case by case basis).
It's 2x is because it clashes with Byakuya's Senkei.
Which is treated as a 2x ap boost over his Bankai,which is an Unquantifiable amount higher than his Shikai,and that Byakuya can clash with Shikai Ichigo.
Edit:the power of being able to read the profiles is truly a dark art.
 
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FKT AP and Durability Revisions [Chapters ~320-420]

FKT Invasion AP and Durability The Final Arrancar Saga AP/Dura Threadshou. So this thread is broken down into like 3 sections. One focused on some calc implemenation/vague Espada stuff. One is all the characters. And one is the tidbits from SAFWY that aid in scaling. Agree: Tracer (add...
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Here's the thread where that got changed
I can't pin down the exact moment Ichigo's Bankai became a 2x multiplier, this is just the thread linked to the revision that changed his 5x to a 2x. Maybe someone has the actual thread. (Note that Ichigo clashing with Byakuya's Senkei could be the justification for why even FKT has a 2x multi, but idk if that's true)
 
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Arc, Deceived and me meet-up, mark 2.
 
Not sure if I would need a CRT to add something like this, but I really can't add it in its current state anyways so it'll be a blog for now.
 
Specterxxxx said:
Is anyone still having any planned CRTs or Ongoing CRTs? Cause I have a CRT in mind regarding the piccaro feat and potential scaling upscale if it gets accepted.
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Apollonir.Scale said:
I had an Espada CRT to make. If your CRT isn't about Espada's rank but just increasing the AP rating of some attacks through Picarro's black hole, you might as well make the first CRT.
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DragonZeroNova said:
Planning on doing the CRT for White and Masaki soon. If you guys want to do a CRT first (looking at you two, @Apollonir.Scale and @Specterxxxx), I'll wait until tomorrow before posting my CRT and/or waiting for after your CRTs are done.
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Just in case
 
Hi Guys, I finally found a way to calc the energy of the black hole by using the normal human acute vision to get the minimum radius of the black hole from their circumference enclosure please check it out. Please.
 
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Bleach: White and Masaki Downgrade

This is a short and simple CRT for White and Masaki (@Crobatman44 reminded me that the values were still based on Isshin at full power). Currently, they scale to Isshin at 38.9448 Teratons (6-B), but Isshin was a captain at the time of their fight and would thus have a Gentei Reiin applied. To...
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It's been a day, so I rolled this out.
Imo this change is small enough that one vote should work.
 
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