Underwater Pressure

[Shadowslash125]

There's a calc for Kamen Rider Ryuki where all the riders can survive being 10 kms deep underwater due to withstanding the pressure of the waters. As one can see, the comments on the page seem to be evenly split (tho it is debatable if Psychomaster still has the same thoughts on this now). More calc members we have asked are also conflicted (afaik), with some ok with LS and water pressure, while others don't accept it due to different reasons. So I've made a calc discussion page to see the consensus for any water pressure calcs and scans, and how they'll be evaluated in the future and what not.

 

[GrayCraft_Dragon]

I will also be mention this blog calc because Shadow forgot about it.

 

[Shadowslash125]

bump

 

[KLOL506]

IIRC pressure underwater can't be calculated into AP sadly since the pressure there acts omnidirectionally on you.

 

[Shadowslash125]

Then it should've been a clear cut on the calc a while ago, though DMUA did rectify it. Just that I made this post checking if everyone unanimously agrees to this point or not, since I heard differing opinions on whether underwater pressure is usable or not (and the multitudes of profiles that use them). Basically, to clear the confusion once and for all.

 

[KLOL506]

@DontTalkDT What is our stance on underwater pressure? Any way to quantify it into durability or no?

 

[Shadowslash125]

I do know DT rejects the usage afaik

 

[Vzearr]

@DontTalkDT What is our stance on underwater pressure? Any way to quantify it into durability or no?

It's wrong, although you didn't ask me I feel like I have to clarify, on his behalf, it doesn't equate to durability, a deep sea water creature wouldn't be able to tank a strike from a human, therefore durability from staying in the deep sea can't be quantified by using the pressure at that level. Their tolerance is withstanding uniform compression over the body, and it wouldn't equate to being able to tank a sudden force embarked onto you. Therefore it doesn't equate to durability in the standard sense.

 

[DontTalkDT]

@DontTalkDT What is our stance on underwater pressure? Any way to quantify it into durability or no?

As said in the last thread, you don't get anything from water pressure. The calc neglects to consider the direction the pressure is exerted from.

 

[Shadowslash125]

So basically, anything with water pressure is uncalcable?

 

[Huesito88]

As said in the last thread, you don't get anything from water pressure. The calc neglects to consider the direction the pressure is exerted from.

Not even a ability?

 

[Shadowslash125]

Btw, I don't really mind if we have to roll back our LS from the currently accepted water pressure calcs; I just wanna have this cleared up since there are different opinions on how it should be implemented. Best if we have a note on it in the calculation wiki page or something of that sort.
That said, wouldn't the pressure hamper people trying to swim upwards back to the top? Especially for those in 10 km depth of the deep sea.

 

[DontTalkDT]

Not even a ability?

Pressure resistance.

So basically, anything with water pressure is uncalcable?

No, it's calcable, just won't give you the impressive results you think.

 

[Vzearr]

No, it's calcable, just won't give you the impressive results you think.

It doesn't equate to durability though.

 

[Shadowslash125]

No, it's calcable, just won't give you the impressive results you think.

Calcing LS is possible, just that it'd yield lower value than normal ones, right?

 

[KLOL506]

Calcing LS is possible, just that it'd yield lower value than normal ones, right?

Something something "Lifting things underwater requires half as much force as on the surface" or something

 

[DontTalkDT]

It doesn't equate to durability though.

Ye ye ye.

Calcing LS is possible, just that it'd yield lower value than normal ones, right?

The LS you would get from being in the water pressure is pretty exactly equal to the LS required to dive into the water at your local pool.
And lifting something underwater would just be normal weight - buoyancy.

 

[Floxy178]

Pressure resistance.

No, it's calcable, just won't give you the impressive results you think.

Oh, it seems you linked wrong thing. Here's correct one.

 

[DontTalkDT]

Oh, it seems you linked wrong thing. Here's correct one.

Comes down to more or less the same.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Bump

 

[Shadowslash125]

Well that settles it then, goodbye water pressure