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Looking back, I think there is potential with Sparda's storyline for next DMC. He is soo mysterious.
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Devil May Cry Discussion Thread
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Inb4 they also reveal Eva didn't die that night, and Trish actually is Eva without her memories.
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Isnt Sparda whole charm being that there is so less known of him outside legends combating the demons and all?
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I feel bad for Viewtiful Joe Dante then
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Well, if it turns out that Trish is Eva, let's hope they don't have Dante or Vergil marry her before revealing that fact...I feel bad for Viewtiful Joe Dante then
In all seriousness, they're more likely to just release a DMC game with just one mission available and lock the other missions behind 19 or more paywalls. Literally pay for each mission.
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Going full EA sports
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Not quite. Isn't there some controversy about EA using the players' likenesses or something?
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Capcom already did that with Asura's wrath tho
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Asura didn't have 5 different games already made
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They also repeated it with one of the Deadrising games later, if I'm not mistaken.
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Yeah with Dead Rising 4
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Yeah, I thought it was 4.
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Mega Man 13 (release date 20XX) but you get only one Robot Master stage at checkout and have to buy the rest individually. You get to choose your own order to purchase them in, though!
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Is DMC3 gonna stay at tier 4 at max or gonna get higher stuff? Especially is tjat poc boss is supposedly fodder to a post DMC3 Dante/Vergil but pre DMC1 selves
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I'm thinking PoC might merit its own key or that any buffs to earlier characters is gonna need a big fat "Possibly XYZ" instead of a clear-cut buff.
Is Hellfilth the boss you refer to as DMC3 Dante beating, or is that another boss you're referring to?
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PoC is its own alternate timeline like Void Mundus' timeline from novels. It doesn't fit into the main story as you and I understand. It was also said that Pluto died in the old timeline but here he is alive
The devs said that it's a parallel world that is both canon and non-canon at the same time and told is to find out by playing the game why that's the case, which we did. We also have discussions between PoC's director, Itsuno and Capcom team that how hard they worked on the game to make it consistent with the lore and so on. I wish to clear this notion in the future when the story is finished.
Helfilth did interrupted Post-DMC3 & Pre-DMC1 era PoC Dante and Vergil but there is no sign they fought Helfilth directly. The one that fought Helfilth was DMC5 era Dante and Vergil.
As for scaling, Nightmare and DMC1 Base Dante would only scale to DW aka 2-C whereas DGs tier beings will be 2-A.
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According to sonic it is a parallel universe and has nothing to do with the one we know. In short, this scales to no one but PoC original profiles.
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Ignore Tony. He is currently seething that I'm not buying into his fanfictions.
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So, new keys or new PoC-only profiles for Dante & company? I'm inclined to prefer the former. Especially since all the abilities should be the same, maybe plus little things like anti-paradox Acausality (if that wasn't applicable before for Sparda dudes via the Argosax stuff).
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We'll decide that in the PoC explanation CRT I would make later when the story is finished.
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PoC only profiles. Think of Void Mundus and regular Mundus but its different profiles instead of another key.
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When was it decided PoC gets separate profiles?
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Never did. He is tripping out here.
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They always were supposed to be new profiles, only the 1.0 story was supposed to be in the main canon.
It's an alternative timeline with feats beyond what the "normal" is for the main canon. Dontchu worry.
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I really want to emphasize that everything you just said was amazingly and consistently wrong. Let's begin from the heart of the matter. What is PoC. PoC is a storyline authorized by the then director of DMC's vision to be a follow up filling the gap between DMC3 and DMC1. Now regardless, of multiversal shenanigans it should be noted that the scaling must be consistent because again this fills a gap between DMC3 and 1 in accordance with Itsuno's essential vision. So, even if PoC details a character from another timeline keep in mind that there is only a miniscule deviation and all events go the way they're supposed to. Even PoC 2.0 was worked on by Itsuno going by the video interview I linked you to in the comments link earlier in this comment that affirm this. If PoC is an alternate universe it would be on such minor grounds that Itsuno considers it easily slated in between these time periods with no consequences. So no we will not be differentiating PoC and canon characters on any real scaling basis as there is no valid grounds to do so seeing as the only difference between timelines is that Pluto is killed in og whereas he's sealed in PoC.
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You do realize this was for the now extinct 1.0 version of the game, right?
It doesn't matter anymore because, as you saw in the discord server, they explicitly said it's an alternative universe.
Mucho texto. Different universe, different scaling.
I could list you the reasons sonic gave in the discord as for why the universe is different and I could add more as someone who actually played the game.
Point is, main canon does not scale to PoC.
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Tony you are a different breed I swear.
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Nah, Tony is arguing out of his ass here. PoC's story was always meant to be same and it still is. It was stated to be alternate timeline back then and despite all his hardships he used to prove it's canon by literally claiming Pluto revived coz Mundus did or smth, the recent Q&A again proved him wrong.
Now, does it scale to main timeline? I believe it still does but that will be argued later on in the scaling thread. As for now, let's post-pone the argument right here.
Now, does it scale to main timeline? I believe it still does but that will be argued later on in the scaling thread. As for now, let's post-pone the argument right here.
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We haven't even gotten to the meat of the problem.
Imagine this, a non canon mobile game that presents feats that dwarf anything else in the series and to top it off the one doing it is considered fodder...
That's a textbook definition of outlier.
Imagine this, a non canon mobile game that presents feats that dwarf anything else in the series and to top it off the one doing it is considered fodder...
That's a textbook definition of outlier.
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I don't know if you have schizophrenia or not but Beastheads literally exist right there in the corner.
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Notice how you ignored the video concerning PoC 2.0 and how Itsuno just like with 1.0 was concerned with an experience that maintains integrity with what DMC is meant to be. He portays PoC 2.0 as building off from where 1.0 was meant to go. This is to say that the same mission for a genuine sequel in 1.0 is carried forwards. The only issue with 1.0 was the gameplay being altered. That's about it as far as Itsuno was concerned (0:28-0:30, 6:17-7:20, and 9:05-9:26)
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A non canon mobile game only non canon in the sense of being an alternative timeline with so little difference it fits between 3 and 1 seamlessly according to the team working on its story. Ah yes, such outliers.
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Ah yes, because having cosmic awareness is the same as nuking the multiverse, how come I never realized this...
Like I said, I won't waste my time anymore and roll with the whole alternative timeline and make sure y'all know what you got into.
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Tony... You forgot how it was labeled canon too?
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The other universe in volume 2 is canon too and we don't scale trish or Mundus to their counterparts.
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Btw @Tony_di_bugalu in the face of the very "one thing leads to another/continuation of the original template" talk Itsuno implied in the PoC 2.0 interview video with differences only being localized in specific places centered around gameplay, minor issues, etc. from the previous 1.0 which was declared canon he needs to provide evidence Itsuno retracted canonicity from 1.0. A clear statement would suffice.
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But, Volume 2 diverges more sharply with humans betraying Sparda that leads to the timeline differences. PoC follows up from 3 and is slated between 1. So barely a discernible difference with 2.0 following off where 1.0 left off directly with no true segue in alignment with Itsuno's essential vision.
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For starters, you should know what 1.0 was about and how it severely changed to what 2.0 is and I'm talking about story.
This is not to mention how the majority of the team involved in 1.0 (I think it was 80%) left and the new one has no idea of what 1.0 was about.
Then we can move on to what Itsuno did and it mostly was to introduce Nero and oversee gameplay.
From there on we can keep talking about all the changes but like I said, I won't waste my time. I will either wait till someone tries scaling main canon Dante to PoC or make a downgrade after the fact.
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So you're arguing Itsuno had no say in the story when his job as director of DMC implies implicitly his involvement storyside. The 1.0 team leaving is irrelevant. What gives canon PoC talking power is and has always been Itsuno. Now provide evidence that Itsuno retracted canon status to the 2.0 build for clarification or there's no need to speak further.
