The power comes out in the form of smoke.
Yes, how does that contradict what I said+
We see no smoke. Therefore, the power isn't coming out.
Yes so Saitamas punch wasn't what power null him…
And even if the mask was cracked, it still goes against your argument of it being purely because the mask was destroyed.
It being cracked = it being destroyed.
The broken pieces remaining together doesn't mean they are not broken. It's like how Lego pieces can hold together despite not being 1 solid thing.
It does, though. Not all haxes are instantenous,
Yeah but it was instantaneous with Garoub
For all we know, the character could lose their power when they regain their consciousness after being hit, reason why Garou lost it instantly and with Empty Void it took some time.
So your answer is even more headcanon. That seems to be your answer to all arguments.
Why didn't Saitama power null all other monsters? Headcanon about it maybe only working on God avatars.
Why didn't Saitama power null Garou countless times? More headcanon.
Why didn't Void lose power right after Saitamas punch? Even more headcanon.
What this does, however, is go against your argument, once again. If it were purely based on the damage done, then it wouldn't take arguably minutes for the power to leak out; i.e., your example of "a vessel holding some gas" doesn't work.
It doesn't. The power leaks out of the hole in their mask like a gas leaving a container.
We don't see details in his face, but we see fragments coming from his face. You don't need a literal potrait or statement of his face being intact when we see that several fragments came later as if nothing happened.
I'm not saying you need literal portrait, I'm saying basing the state of his face mask on scans where his face is not visible at all is absurd and flawed.
I'm saying that you claiming over 500 to 1000 punches is not factual. The amount of times being punched is unknown.
Yeah, 500 was a hyperbole. I literally gave you multiple options showing how it's most likely in several hundreds regardless
I concede the amount is bigger than 20, I kinda forgot about that part of the fight when I wrote the comment.
Aaand how are you going to address these countless contradictions?
But the amount of punches is unknown.
Sure but we can make safe estimates. Like we canonically have at least 1400 jumps around the very outside of Io and potentially several times more inside.
Saying Saitama jumped thousands of times without even hitting Garou a few hundred times doesn't seem even slightly absurd to you?
Yeah. The damage done to Empty Void's monster shell was less than the damage done to Future Garou,
It wasn't. Voids mask completely crumbled off his face. Meanwhile future Garous mask remained on his head even long after the punch and after God took away his power from Garou
So no, the damage Void took was greater and no losing God's power doesn't remove the shell from your body despite it literally killing you.
or the one Blast did yet the power leaked out.
Blast didn't leave a scratch on the shell on Voids head.
Not 1000x weaker, again. If you wanna be precise, he'd be
something more than 58x;
No because Saitama punched present Garou before he copied Saitamas strength.
Garou before copying Blasts strength only scales
150x below present Saitama. Saitama then grows 58x stronger making the gap between future Saitama and present Garou around 8700x.
Or he could've developed said ability at the end of the fight to save present Garou, as others have purposed.
More headcanon… And if he could magically develop an ability like that why wouldn't he do so from the start? He could have saved both present and future Garou if he punched gods power out of him
The author is not hiding anything.
Then there were no secret retcons and this whole point is moot.
In the previous redraw, we got Empty Void specifically eating Garou's god power to get his.
Yes, AFTER Garou already started losing power due to it leaking from the crack in his face made by Saitama.
If that does not sound like a retcon to you, I cannot do anything.
The old version of Voids origins was retconned sure but not Saitama having power null because again, that would require the entire cosmic Garou fight to be retconned when it wasn't.
Again, if Saitama's strength was the cause, then your argument will fall under the damage done to the vessel itself. Which:
1. Will contradict why Future Garou and Present Garou got nearly the same damage to the vessel yet future one didn't leak his power, but present one did
They didn't. Future Garous damage was visibly lower and didn't spread even while God was actively taking away his power while present Garous was visibly bigger and spread further.
2. Will contradict why Empty Void leaked his power despite his damage being less than both future and present Garou.
It wasn't, we didn't see the damage on Voids mask and it eventually completely crumbled off his head.
Which again, we saw doesn't happen as a result of losing God's power because Garous shell didn't fall off at all when God took away his power.
3. Will contradict why Blast severely damaged Void, doing far more damage than what Saitama did yet Void didn't lose his power.
It wouldn't because like I already said about 10x, the damage Blast did was not to the head meanwhile both of Saitamas punches damaged the head.
This is like being shocked Blast didn't give someone brain damage by punching their leg.
"Do not force hour headcanon", Ah, but you are forcing your headcanon of God's power somehow leaking once the face ofxtheir vessel cracks, but not when literally any other part of their vessel does.
That's not a headcanon, that's a conclusion drawn from that exact thing happening twice.
Anyway, this is getting circular and does not seem to be going to any point. So let's just agree to disagree
Agreeing to disagreeing doesn't really work when you're trying to change a profile based on a ton of headcanons stacked on top of each other.
Like this entire thing is
1. Headcanon that avatars lost power because of some hidden power null hax rather than damaging the shell that contain Gods power
2. Headcanon that Saitama secretly gained it after time traveling for unknown reasons.
3. Headcanon that it only power nulls you after you regain consciousness
4. Headcanon that this ability only works on "divine power"
Like I'd love to just handwave it away as us disagreeing on some interpretation but this is you writing fanfiction and trying to publish it on a vsbw profile instead of on whattpad. The sheer amount of mental gymnastics required for this argument are so incredibly below the wikis standards. At best we don't have enough information to conclude some ability yet.