• This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.

    For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here.
  • We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.

    Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.

    Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page.
  • Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.

Weakest Monster vs. Control Devil (Sans vs. Makima) (8-13-1) (Grace Ended)

Eden_Warlock99 said:
>I don't really get this one, what stops her from preventing it? Like she did the first wave?
Click to expand...
Thats the thing, she needs to prevent it. Like she did, yanno, in the first wave, dodging?
Shes not predicting attacks 6 seconds into the future here, its more like HALF a second, so she won't just "Bang".
Eden_Warlock99 said:
>She threw an attack at the Darkness Devil, she's definitely not the type to go full defense. Precog should also show her sans dying to the Bang too
Click to expand...
Darkness is within the same tier as her.
Meanwhile, she has knowledge that Sans can kill a being which can erase a 2-B cosmology. She HAS to go full defense here to not get grazed and die.
Eden_Warlock99 said:
>Thing is sans' gesture for the bone corridor is his third one, he needs to wave full force down and then up, and only then does he wave to the left.
Makima only needs to point at him, that's the only gesture she needs to do here.
Click to expand...
Again, each Gesture of Sans' is short as hell, she has to dodge on ALL the attacks, each gesture of Sans' creates a new death-risk in which she sees herself dying in if she doesnt act.
Why would she do Bang at a non-opportune time like that?
 
Mommyleona said:
Im not sure how sans would for sure KNOW that he can kill frisk alot, that seems like a stretch, on the contrary he would know frisk can one shot him, yet he still chooses to talk and even gives us a chance to back down at first
Click to expand...
Because he knows that he has bullshit mechanics of his own that Frisk abides by.
He knows that he can attack Frisk through their HUD, he knows that when they are about to fight him, they'll have no invuln bar.
He knows that he has tricks up his sleeve that'll work.

Meanwhile Makima is just some woman who's a dire threat to him and his surroundings, with no knowledge on whether his own bs works on her or not.
 
our arguments are going in circles here lmao
maybe we should just let the new voters decide
 
Gamecooob said:
Because he knows that he has bullshit mechanics of his own that Frisk abides by.
He knows that he can attack Frisk through their HUD, he knows that when they are about to fight him, they'll have no invuln bar.
He knows that he has tricks up his sleeve that'll work.

Meanwhile Makima is just some woman who's a dire threat to him and his surroundings, with no knowledge on whether his own bs works on her or not.
Click to expand...
im more inclined to think that he'll think his bs will work, as he never encountered a "human" who doesnt abide by such rules... and when he did he died
Makima however has the advantage of prior knowledge AND precog, she wont hesitate to bang, dip, summon her goons etc
 
Gamecooob said:
Why would she do Bang at a non-opportune time like that?
Click to expand...
As far as I'm concerned both action are close to happen relatively the same time. Especially under pressure. It doesn't matter if San's gesture is short ash. These guys literally move at the same speed. During the time Sans raises his hands, Makima does a litera point 😭😭 you all are making it sound like she's infinitely doing a slower action. No she isn't and especially not in character either
 
Fallen_Angelicx said:
As far as I'm concerned both action are close to happen relatively the same time. Especially under pressure. It doesn't matter if San's gesture is short ash. These guys literally move at the same speed. During the time Sans raises his hands, Makima does a litera point 😭😭 you all are making it sound like she's infinitely doing a slower action. No she isn't and especially not in character either
Click to expand...
ignoring the fact that each time Sans starts to gesture, her precog literally tells her "oh shit im dead", which would require anyone with 3 brain cells to evade instead of retaliate?
 
Gamecooob said:
Darkness is within the same tier as her.
Meanwhile, she has knowledge that Sans can kill a being which can erase a 2-B cosmology. She HAS to go full defense here to not get grazed and die.
Click to expand...
The Darkness Devil is a few tiers above her and is considered "transcendent" and far more terrifying than the Gun Devil, someone Makima used basically all her powers at once against. The same Darkness Devil who caused the majority of the cast to want to end their lives on the spot by just watching them.

Like you said, Makima isn't aware of VSBW lingo, she's not going to treat a 2-B guy really all that much different from someone who's basically god in her verse.
That and she's aware of that he has SOUL hax, and if she connects it together, she can probably deduce that he did so thanks to said SOUL hax rather than pure brute force, especially since basically all the strongest characters in CM are hax lords instead of meat heads.
 
Eden_Warlock99 said:
The Darkness Devil is a few tiers above her and is considered "transcendent" and far more terrifying than the Gun Devil, someone Makima used basically all her powers at once against. The same Darkness Devil who caused the majority of the cast to want to end their lives on the spot by just watching them.

Like you said, Makima isn't aware of VSBW lingo, she's not going to treat a 2-B guy really all that much different from someone who's basically god in her verse.
That and she's aware of that he has SOUL hax, and if she connects it together, she can probably deduce that he did so thanks to said SOUL hax rather than pure brute force, especially since basically all the strongest characters in CM are hax lords instead of meat heads.
Click to expand...
nonononono, you misunderstood.

Theres a difference between Darkness being transcendent above every other devil...

and a guy that can kill a being who can erase a thousand timelines.

Basically, as it says in the OP.

They cannot be compared in the slightest, as Makima could still put Darkness out of commission for a bit, but this time she KNOWS that she is incomprehensibly below the guy that Sans beat.
 
Gamecooob said:
ignoring the fact that each time Sans starts to gesture, her precog literally tells her "oh shit im dead", which would require anyone with 3 brain cells to evade instead of retaliate?
Click to expand...
Ignoring the fact that the one time Makima points at Sans who's 5 meters in front of her. He turns into the audio of a Minecraft skeleton dying from an invisible force that hits him at Massively Hypersonic+ speeds (All Sans has is "Higher attack speed" for his fodder blaster) which in turn moves 50x faster than both these characters on minimum. A blast that Sans doesn't even know about not can prevent against while you're sitting here talking about how Makima has a remote sense to evade San's blast. Like are we serious? Sans has NO WAY to evade Makima's attack which happens nigh simultaneously with a point and one shots and hits Sans the moment her hand raises..


SANS NEEDS REPEATED HITS FOR KARMA TO TAKE EFFECT. Makima needs to literally Salute Sans out of existence- Does the bone attacks even do anything special? What stops makima from contracting?
 
Fallen_Angelicx said:
Ignoring the fact that the one time Makima points at Sans who's 5 meters in front of her. He turns into the audio of a Minecraft skeleton dying from an invisible force that hits him at Massively Hypersonic+ speeds (All Sans has is "Higher attack speed" for his fodder blaster) which in turn moves 50x faster than both these characters on minimum. A blast that Sans doesn't even know about not can prevent against while you're sitting here talking about how Makima has a remote sense to evade San's blast. Like are we serious? Sans has NO WAY to evade Makima's attack which happens nigh simultaneously with a point and one shots and hits Sans the moment her hand raises..


SANS NEEDS REPEATED HITS FOR KARMA TO TAKE EFFECT. Makima needs to literally Salute Sans out of existence- Does the bone attacks even do anything special? What stops makima from contracting?
Click to expand...
... this does not disprove what I said.

her precog can still say "oh shit im dead", at the same time she can 1shot him. the 2 things can be both true.

again, ill say this, again, lets just wait for new voters to take their pick, ffs. this will go in too many circles.
 
What's stopping Makima from "Bang" diffing. A strong invisible projectile against a weak monster sounds like a pretty potent wincon.
 
Cool, Makima’s contract isn't regeneration. She just gets reverted to her prior state while someone else takes the penalty for damage done. I'll go with Makima for my own reasons.
 
GunshyFever said:
Cool, Makima’s contract isn't regeneration. She just gets reverted to her prior state while someone else takes the penalty for damage done. I'll go with Makima for my own reasons.
Click to expand...
Can she really really ressurect/transfer damage that attacks her soul AND negate her durability without even having to do the former?
 
does sans reaction speed is higher than the “bang”, according to profile, there are hypersonic and massively hypersonic, i don’t know which one is used
 
Hmn, gonna vote san cuz the distance between them is very close so sans gonna use his special move right away and vaporize makima instantly, also yeah makima have precog, but I don’t think it potent enough to dodge san’s attack, i mean i don’t see how this precog interact with danmaku though
 
GunshyFever said:
That's because she doesn't herself, her contract just auto law manipulation at work, she doesn't have to do anything herself.
Click to expand...
theres kinda just 0 evidence that this extends to soul damage.
just cuz its "law manipulation" doesnt mean it automatically makes it extend to anything else, otherwise Makima couldn't lose in any thread.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

ARandomDude127
Subjugation; Hank J. Wimbleton vs Makima (Madness Combat vs Chainsaw Man)
Replies
19
Views
1K
ARandomDude127
ARandomDude127
Sooshirohl
Yixuan vs. Makima (Zenless Zone Zero vs. Chainsaw Man)
Replies
10
Views
721
Sooshirohl
Sooshirohl
Ruby_R_Dracula
Makima vs Alastor (CSM vs HH)
2 3
Replies
112
Views
6K
TheOrangeGuy09
TheOrangeGuy09
Kellex
  • Locked
Link (TotK) vs Makima (CSM) (18-7-0) (GRACE OVER)
4 5 6
Replies
212
Views
15K
Kellex
Kellex
LegendariumOfLies
  • Locked
(GRACE) [7-1-0] Battle Of The Crazy Demon Ladies - Makima Vs Albedo -Chainsaw Man Vs Overlord
2 3
Replies
97
Views
7K
LephyrTheRevanchist
LephyrTheRevanchist
Back
Top