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Wiki Vandalism Reports

I gave a warning message. 🙏

 
Twilight gave an instruction message. 🙏

 
So, Azure404 added abilities to pages without CRTs.
On one hand, I think they're trying to improve the pages by linking abilities to what the text says, on the other hand, it is in some cases inaccurate and they have 5 warnings already.
My impression is a young user that tries but doesn't manage. Any opinions on how to proceed with that case?
 
So, Azure404 added abilities to pages without CRTs.
On one hand, I think they're trying to improve the pages by linking abilities to what the text says, on the other hand, it is in some cases inaccurate and they have 5 warnings already.
My impression is a young user that tries but doesn't manage. Any opinions on how to proceed with that case?
I gave a warning message, and a few of their edits likely need to be reverted. 🙏

 
This edit made by them seems like self-evident cleanup work, whereas this one seems much more speculative. 🙏
 
Yes. Thank you for helping out. 🙏❤️
 
I don't know how to start, but I was checking the page history of Honkai: Star Rail profiles and found several edits made by @Enryu_The_Red_Tower in which a lot of P&A, resistances and statistics were added with no content revisions at all or were added under disguise… as in even the ones he left a link to didn't cover the changes he made.

I'll detail each vandalism within sections:

General Changes:

Low 2-C:
Enryu added Low 2-C (If you are struggling to see it, just scroll to the Attack potency section, you will see “'''Universe level+''' with Mem's Time Manipulation”) to Trailblazer's profile + a whole new key and linked a CRT in which there was no proposal for an upgrade to tier 2, nor did it have the other contents he added in the remembrance key, the CRT was solely about adding an accepted 3-C+ calculation and a multiplier to the scaling.

Acheron’s Immortality: Enryu added immortality 1, 2, 3 and regeneration to Acheron’s profile with no CRT attached. Nothing much to say here

Resistance to Imaginary Energy: I can comment better on this one because this involves one of my threads, I made this thread to add a specific powers page to the verse, and as you can see at no point I proposed resistance to this P&A for any character, Enryu added several resistances to every emanator (which includes a lot of controversial powers like conceptual, information, law manipulation) despite that and with a justification that doesn't have any scan.

Extraordinary Genius Intelligence: Enryu changed the rating of several characters from genius to extraordinary genius without any CRT as you can see in the links. All of these edits were pretty close to each other 14-18 of September with the exception of Dan Heng who had his profile edited on 25th January this year, and Hoolay on 22th november.

Now, I have to bring additional context as Feixiao's profile was created on November 13th (a day before most of the changes) without any accepted crt already having EG in it, as Yanqing’s and Hoolay’s intelligence section mentions Feixian, one might think that this was a case where one character was already an extraordinary genius and the other profiles just needed an update, to begin with that would still require a crt as it affects several profiles and staff would still need to check if the scaling is valid. I will also argue that creating a profile with an unapproved rating and using that profile to upgrade others should still count as a violation of the site's rules, since this is no different from sneakily adding unapproved things to profiles while bypassing the need of content revision threads. Just imagine if someone created a tier 3 profile at the weekend and the next day went around upgrading several tier 4 characters to tier 3 based on that created profile, that obviously wouldn't be accepted. What's more, if you look closely, you'll see that even the scaling wasn't accepted either… Hoolay’s profile was created on September 13th with no scaling to Yanqing and Yunli, it was only added a week later where most of the faulty edits were made.

Aeon Physiology:

Starting on September 20th of last year, Enryu began adding several layered resistances, powers and justifications to the Aeon physiology page without any approved CRT and with the flawed reasoning being assumptions that they must have these resistances or they “upscale” in blatant disregard that upscaling doesn’t work like that in this wiki. A good chunk of these include notable powers like again conceptual, information manipulation and are smurf as you can see by the 12-D in the justifications. I did some investigation in the threads and I found this where the supposed scaling was accepted but only GarrixianXD accepted the thread, which isn’t enough for high-end abilities as those are required to have at least 2 votes if not three since these powers and resistances are tier 1, Garrixian was only thread moderator at the time too, and this ignoring how this thread was made in January this year, and most of the changes were made last year.


Just for documentation, I have reported behavior like this in the past, and there was also a major vandalism report made by Garrixian too, so this is a consistent and major problem in this verse. If the staff deems the changes are uncalled for, I am willing to do all the editing necessary to remove them or preferably the supporters should make threads to get these accepted with proof.
 
Most of abilities with refference and scans added should be re evaluated in the crt with same abilities there, the rest is ehh well on him lol
 
Sure, yeah. The latter work, but if it should be the former then I generally don't oppose it.

I know this verse for a year straight now, whilst it is a major problem — It shouldn't disregard the fact that Enryu preferably came back to VSBW after the Emanators were 1-B cause I'm pretty sure they went missing a while ago or so and that was in a long timeframe to say the least. Comparing it to Solacis is a bit too much, Solacis's case were just editing the Honkai Energy page whatever he wants whilst Enryu on the other hand is just adding the abilities. Yes, it's a vandalism but it's something that still could be tracked down and covered properly with a CRT. I'd say only 20-30% of it were vandalized which was all tracked down and covered by Shiroiyo here, the rest were not because I'm sure there's also someone who was with Enryu (Aernasilver, though he already retired). I think it should be known that for whatever Enryu is doing in this verse is constantly being watched, from Aernasilver to Shiroiyo themselves (And me, because I was kinda the one who pointed it out too with Shiroiyo). That's all.
 
So
This person upgraded Eternatus to 2-A because of a 2022 thread meant only to affect trainer profiles

This was overlooked
 
To add to this, Zacian and Zamazenta were also revised.

Unless you somehow think it makes sense, I request this be reversed.
 
So
This person upgraded Eternatus to 2-A because of a 2022 thread meant only to affect trainer profiles

This was overlooked
It wasn't. Eternatus got scaled above Leon, who scales above the Creation Trio as stated on his profile. This was directly mentioned and agreed to in the thread.

You will kinda need to make a new one to address it.
 
Sure, yeah. The latter work, but if it should be the former then I generally don't oppose it.

I know this verse for a year straight now, whilst it is a major problem — It shouldn't disregard the fact that Enryu preferably came back to VSBW after the Emanators were 1-B cause I'm pretty sure they went missing a while ago or so and that was in a long timeframe to say the least. Comparing it to Solacis is a bit too much, Solacis's case were just editing the Honkai Energy page whatever he wants whilst Enryu on the other hand is just adding the abilities. Yes, it's a vandalism but it's something that still could be tracked down and covered properly with a CRT. I'd say only 20-30% of it were vandalized which was all tracked down and covered by Shiroiyo here, the rest were not because I'm sure there's also someone who was with Enryu (Aernasilver, though he already retired). I think it should be known that for whatever Enryu is doing in this verse is constantly being watched, from Aernasilver to Shiroiyo themselves (And me, because I was kinda the one who pointed it out too with Shiroiyo). That's all.
I mean Solacis even caused verse to be literally deleted on top of the severe cases of vandalism only to get 6 months ban, so this case should likely be less punishable, but crt for added abilities to be re evaluated is a must
 
I mean Solacis even caused verse to be literally deleted on top of the severe cases of vandalism only to get 6 months ban, so this case should likely be less punishable, but crt for added abilities to be re evaluated is a must
Well, yeah it should be re-evaluated but I honestly don't really know if that would be allowed (If that's allowed, it would be like the best outcome). The former of that is like the strict one, nonetheless the indication is clear that vandalism shouldn't be supported in any way possible and it should be discouraged. Honestly, if this happens the second time then I'd just lean with the former by removing it and just tell them to make a CRT about it imo
 
What do we currently need to evaluate and do here? 🙏
 
I don't know how to start, but I was checking the page history of Honkai: Star Rail profiles and found several edits made by @Enryu_The_Red_Tower in which a lot of P&A, resistances and statistics were added with no content revisions at all or were added under disguise… as in even the ones he left a link to didn't cover the changes he made.

I'll detail each vandalism within sections:

General Changes:

Low 2-C:
Enryu added Low 2-C (If you are struggling to see it, just scroll to the Attack potency section, you will see “'''Universe level+''' with Mem's Time Manipulation”) to Trailblazer's profile + a whole new key and linked a CRT in which there was no proposal for an upgrade to tier 2, nor did it have the other contents he added in the remembrance key, the CRT was solely about adding an accepted 3-C+ calculation and a multiplier to the scaling.

Acheron’s Immortality: Enryu added immortality 1, 2, 3 and regeneration to Acheron’s profile with no CRT attached. Nothing much to say here

Resistance to Imaginary Energy: I can comment better on this one because this involves one of my threads, I made this thread to add a specific powers page to the verse, and as you can see at no point I proposed resistance to this P&A for any character, Enryu added several resistances to every emanator (which includes a lot of controversial powers like conceptual, information, law manipulation) despite that and with a justification that doesn't have any scan.

Extraordinary Genius Intelligence: Enryu changed the rating of several characters from genius to extraordinary genius without any CRT as you can see in the links. All of these edits were pretty close to each other 14-18 of September with the exception of Dan Heng who had his profile edited on 25th January this year, and Hoolay on 22th november.

Now, I have to bring additional context as Feixiao's profile was created on November 13th (a day before most of the changes) without any accepted crt already having EG in it, as Yanqing’s and Hoolay’s intelligence section mentions Feixian, one might think that this was a case where one character was already an extraordinary genius and the other profiles just needed an update, to begin with that would still require a crt as it affects several profiles and staff would still need to check if the scaling is valid. I will also argue that creating a profile with an unapproved rating and using that profile to upgrade others should still count as a violation of the site's rules, since this is no different from sneakily adding unapproved things to profiles while bypassing the need of content revision threads. Just imagine if someone created a tier 3 profile at the weekend and the next day went around upgrading several tier 4 characters to tier 3 based on that created profile, that obviously wouldn't be accepted. What's more, if you look closely, you'll see that even the scaling wasn't accepted either… Hoolay’s profile was created on September 13th with no scaling to Yanqing and Yunli, it was only added a week later where most of the faulty edits were made.

Aeon Physiology:

Starting on September 20th of last year, Enryu began adding several layered resistances, powers and justifications to the Aeon physiology page without any approved CRT and with the flawed reasoning being assumptions that they must have these resistances or they “upscale” in blatant disregard that upscaling doesn’t work like that in this wiki. A good chunk of these include notable powers like again conceptual, information manipulation and are smurf as you can see by the 12-D in the justifications. I did some investigation in the threads and I found this where the supposed scaling was accepted but only GarrixianXD accepted the thread, which isn’t enough for high-end abilities as those are required to have at least 2 votes if not three since these powers and resistances are tier 1, Garrixian was only thread moderator at the time too, and this ignoring how this thread was made in January this year, and most of the changes were made last year.


Just for documentation, I have reported behavior like this in the past, and there was also a major vandalism report made by Garrixian too, so this is a consistent and major problem in this verse. If the staff deems the changes are uncalled for, I am willing to do all the editing necessary to remove them or preferably the supporters should make threads to get these accepted with proof.

Bump
 
I don't know how to start, but I was checking the page history of Honkai: Star Rail profiles and found several edits made by @Enryu_The_Red_Tower in which a lot of P&A, resistances and statistics were added with no content revisions at all or were added under disguise… as in even the ones he left a link to didn't cover the changes he made.

I'll detail each vandalism within sections:

General Changes:

Low 2-C:
Enryu added Low 2-C (If you are struggling to see it, just scroll to the Attack potency section, you will see “'''Universe level+''' with Mem's Time Manipulation”) to Trailblazer's profile + a whole new key and linked a CRT in which there was no proposal for an upgrade to tier 2, nor did it have the other contents he added in the remembrance key, the CRT was solely about adding an accepted 3-C+ calculation and a multiplier to the scaling.

Acheron’s Immortality: Enryu added immortality 1, 2, 3 and regeneration to Acheron’s profile with no CRT attached. Nothing much to say here

Resistance to Imaginary Energy: I can comment better on this one because this involves one of my threads, I made this thread to add a specific powers page to the verse, and as you can see at no point I proposed resistance to this P&A for any character, Enryu added several resistances to every emanator (which includes a lot of controversial powers like conceptual, information, law manipulation) despite that and with a justification that doesn't have any scan.

Extraordinary Genius Intelligence: Enryu changed the rating of several characters from genius to extraordinary genius without any CRT as you can see in the links. All of these edits were pretty close to each other 14-18 of September with the exception of Dan Heng who had his profile edited on 25th January this year, and Hoolay on 22th november.

Now, I have to bring additional context as Feixiao's profile was created on November 13th (a day before most of the changes) without any accepted crt already having EG in it, as Yanqing’s and Hoolay’s intelligence section mentions Feixian, one might think that this was a case where one character was already an extraordinary genius and the other profiles just needed an update, to begin with that would still require a crt as it affects several profiles and staff would still need to check if the scaling is valid. I will also argue that creating a profile with an unapproved rating and using that profile to upgrade others should still count as a violation of the site's rules, since this is no different from sneakily adding unapproved things to profiles while bypassing the need of content revision threads. Just imagine if someone created a tier 3 profile at the weekend and the next day went around upgrading several tier 4 characters to tier 3 based on that created profile, that obviously wouldn't be accepted. What's more, if you look closely, you'll see that even the scaling wasn't accepted either… Hoolay’s profile was created on September 13th with no scaling to Yanqing and Yunli, it was only added a week later where most of the faulty edits were made.

Aeon Physiology:

Starting on September 20th of last year, Enryu began adding several layered resistances, powers and justifications to the Aeon physiology page without any approved CRT and with the flawed reasoning being assumptions that they must have these resistances or they “upscale” in blatant disregard that upscaling doesn’t work like that in this wiki. A good chunk of these include notable powers like again conceptual, information manipulation and are smurf as you can see by the 12-D in the justifications. I did some investigation in the threads and I found this where the supposed scaling was accepted but only GarrixianXD accepted the thread, which isn’t enough for high-end abilities as those are required to have at least 2 votes if not three since these powers and resistances are tier 1, Garrixian was only thread moderator at the time too, and this ignoring how this thread was made in January this year, and most of the changes were made last year.


Just for documentation, I have reported behavior like this in the past, and there was also a major vandalism report made by Garrixian too, so this is a consistent and major problem in this verse. If the staff deems the changes are uncalled for, I am willing to do all the editing necessary to remove them or preferably the supporters should make threads to get these accepted with proof.
@Enryu_The_Red_Tower
 
This user vandalized Jax, he changed his tier to Tier High 1-A and 0
 
Thoughout pretty much entirirty of yesterday, my internet reception was dead. Just a note.
 
This user vandalized Jax, he changed his tier to Tier High 1-A and 0
We banned this member btw. 🙏

 
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I would extremely greatly appreciate if you are all willing to regularly help out here, as our community stops functioning properly without regular staff maintenance of our two rule violation report threads, and I am already overworked with edit-patrolling our wiki and many IRL tasks every day. 🙏
 
I permanently banned them.

Thank you for helping out. 🙏
 
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