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I’ll be honest the AI thing was kinda cringe, don’t use it.
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Egg Wizard's justification change (and perhaps a range downgrade).
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I did kinda regret it. It wasn't supposed to be taken seriously.
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He never said this, He actually said that "Each of us can think of the other as what is known as a "parallel universe" is what Power of the stars makes possible, not whatever wording that is not present, he referring to "them seeing each other as parallel universes" (the Japanese version kinda said they're "sort of", and that's because they're the only universes who are extremely connected)
Because, grammatically speaking , “this” refers back to the sentence as a whole, not just a term within it.
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No, Star. The usage of "this" is always used to substitute a subject in a sentence. It doesn't make sense for it to be the entire sentence being referred. It's a pronoun, after-all. Even so, the sentence:"Each of us can think of the other as what is known as a "parallel universe"
Is just the explanation of what a parallel universe is. It being used just means that the Power of Stars can sustain "this", ergo, parallel universes.
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This is funny when sentences like this "StarSprite failed the test. This surprised his parents." exist.
"This" also refers to thoughts, entire clauses or ideas, ask the ai if you want.(I'm not mocking, ai is fine with asking this stuff I guess, it's basically google but faster sometimes).
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Being honest I'd rather put ice into a deep fryer than ever use generative ai for anything. If I'm wrong of something I will be so from my own thoughts and not that of a word-and-art-stealing waste pit.
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Ngl, I don't think it's bad if You use it to fix your grammar (Sometimes though, Ai can use its imagination and change the stuff drastically instead) or search stuff.
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Everytime I asked the AI about Nega's sentence it said it refers to parallel universes in general, so you should take Mystic's advice since that's not going to help you.
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You asked for it, BTW:
In the sentence:
The pronoun "this" in the phrase "What makes this possible..." refers to the existence and mutual recognition of the two separate dimensions as parallel universes.
### Detailed Breakdown:
* "This world and Dr. Eggman's world exist in separate dimensions."
→ Establishes that there are two distinct dimensions (or universes): one presumably belonging to the speaker, and the other to Dr. Eggman.
* "Each of us can think of the other as what is known as a 'parallel universe.'"
→ Explains that these dimensions can be seen as parallel to each other — i.e., coexisting but separate realities.
* "What makes this possible is this so-called 'Power of the Stars.'"
→ The phrase "this possible" points back to the ability of these worlds to exist separately yet be understood or connected as parallel universes.
So:
"this" = the condition in which two worlds can exist in separate dimensions yet be thought of as parallel universes.
In essence, the "Power of the Stars" is being credited as the mechanism or force that allows:
1. These separate dimensions to exist, and
2. Possibly the awareness, recognition, or interaction between them.
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Let me know if you'd like a version that ties this more directly to Sonic lore or theoretical physics.
Great question.
The sentence:
is primarily referring to these two specific worlds — "this world" and "Dr. Eggman's world." That’s the immediate context.
However, the wording and structure imply a potentially broader application. Here's why:
###Interpretation — Specific vs. General
#### 1. Specific Level:
- The sentence clearly introduces two named worlds.
- The phrase "each of us can think of the other" emphasizes a two-way, reciprocal relationship between these two specific dimensions.
- The phrase "makes this possible" anchors the Power of the Stars to this particular dimensional relationship.
So yes — it's explicitly about these two worlds.
#### 2. Implied General Level:
- The phrase “what is known as a ‘parallel universe’” uses a general term from science fiction/multiverse theory, not a setting-specific label.
- The explanation of a force or principle ("Power of the Stars") that makes this interdimensional relationship possible sounds like a rule of the universe, not a one-off event.
- In narrative context (like Sonic games), when a story introduces a mechanism like the “Power of the Stars,” it often applies to multiple worlds or dimensions, not just the current pair.
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###Conclusion:
- Directly, the sentence refers to only the two mentioned worlds.
- Implicitly, it could be interpreted to apply more broadly — suggesting that the "Power of the Stars" is a universal mechanism that enables the existence or interaction of any parallel dimensions, not just the ones mentioned.
Let me know if you'd like it reworded from a lore vs. meta-narrative perspective.
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Yeah and this what it told me as well:
I hope you realize now that Ai is not always consistent.Brutally honest?
“This” in the sentence:
refers to the entire idea conveyed in the previous sentence:
So it doesn't only refer to the term “parallel universe”, but rather to the concept or situation: that these two worlds (this world and Eggman's world) are separate dimensions that can be regarded as parallel universes.
In other words, “this” refers to the possibility or nature of these two dimensions being treated as parallel universes, not the term itself.
Why?
Grammatically and logically, “this” commonly refers to a clause or idea, not just a noun.
It would be strange and unnatural to say that a power (like "Power of the Stars") makes a term (a name or label) possible.
The phrase "makes this possible" implies a situation, relationship, or concept being possible, not a label being possible.
Breakdown:
"What makes the label 'parallel universe' possible is the Power of the Stars."
Final verdict:
“This” = the possibility of the two dimensions being considered parallel universes. Not just the term.
This is even from yours:
Yeah I'm definitely not going to waste my time on what it could or what it couldn’t, espacially when the lore and sources are on my side.
And I take this interpretation written by an official writer and native english speaker who is not influenced by powerscaling for his judgement.
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That's literally what I said? I even deleted my first AI post? You are the one who brought it up, why are you suddenly backpedaling over it?
Why are you using Archie as a source? There's several contradictions to the game's even on things that are 1 to 1. This thread is an entire mess, from you using AIslop as a source then backpedaling over it, and then using explicitly non-canon arguments written by Ian years before he even worked on the games. That's as valid as his Teletubbies fanfics are towards his work.
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I only told you to ask it about grammatical question, not interpretating a dialogue, and not posting it here.
I'm not using it as a primary source, I'm only using it as a tiny support to what an actual official english writer think of this sentence.
And I never used a comic arc for this thread, just a description of an item that doesn't even have an arc about and just has this description based on the games narrative.
Mind you, Archie Solaris (who only appeared in the same source as the jeweled scepter) profile literally has 1:1 stuff from games.
You were literally the first one to use it and post it, stop twisting what's going on!
I mean.
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You literally didn't say this. You said to ask the AI. You brought it up in the first place.
Doesn't matter because it's not canon and Ian wasn't even part of the team when writing this. It's like using Tyson's Hesse fancomic as evidence about how Tails truly flies because he worked on Sonic later.
I was honest and conceded I made a mistake and backpedaled on it.
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Read my comment again, if you didn't understand it that's not my problem.
I literally brought ai because you were the first guy to post it in the entire thread to gaslight me and others into whatever you're trying to do. Shifting the blame on me is just not fair at all.
I'm not even mad, I'm disappointed.
This is the third time you used a false analogy and it's getting annoying (and this comes from the person who uses analogies a lot).
Using a fan parody comic to prove a point is weird at this point.
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Wouldn't exactly effect scaling of any other profile, or the tier of Egg Wizard via power scaling in general, but I do agree that it seems more assumptive to assume all parallel universes were effected. And that we know at least 2 possibly higher were merged. Likewise, I thought that the stated power was sort of overstated, PotS being assumed greater or implied greater than the the Chaos Emeralds I thought we agreed that it wouldn't upscale from high end Super Sonic. Sonic and Blaze were never damaged and the fight basically plays out how most typical Sonic end game bosses did. Not saying I agree with a full downgrade, but I at least agree that unless specifically stated, it isn't assumed all parallel universes were effected.
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Yes I suppose there could be a case for range to remain as a possibly, but I feel more safe assuming it only affected Sonic and Blaze’s worlds for now
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That's not true at all. You're arbitrarily placing nonexistent limitations on words. You can easily say something like "I'm able to fill up my car for $3. This is possible because of the new economic policies implemented by the government." In that case, the word "This" refers to the idea/message conveyed by the previous sentence rather than a specific object or subject in the sentence.
Now, I will not claim that this must be the case here. What's really going on is that the antecedent to the word "this" is ambiguous. In other words, we're not quite sure what "this" refers to. It's definitely possible that "this" refers to the existence of all parallel universes. But that's not a valid reason to assume that it likely or does actually refer to the existence of all parallel universes. That would be a fallacious appeal to possibility. Your interpretation requires an additional assumption.
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Oldish thread but I agree for the most part. While you could technically say in an infinite multiverse it could support the existence of ALL parallel worlds/universes since there would be an infinite amount, it seems less likely.
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Would you want to post this on the general discussion to hopefully get it wrapped up?
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