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I feel the verse also could use revisions for the intelligence and skill of the mercenaries, or at least a deep-dive analysis of it.
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Team Fortress General Discussion
- Thread starter Aguywhodoesthings
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They really are better at combat than I think we give them credit for, Soldier LITERALLY MADE a whole rocket launcher out of trash on his own, clearly they have more than meets the eye
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Not to mention their teamwork is good enough to stalemate an entire robot army during a global offensive against Mann co.
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ok let's see what does Saxton scale or upscale with 100% certanty:
-cowmangler and man melter type of weapons
-the payloads
-tfc and tf2 mercs (mostly for for the lifting strenght feats)
-should scale to pyro so supersonic+ reaction speed
did i got everything right
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wasn't his punch 4 KJ?
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I lost track of the supersonic+ Pyro blog, do you know where that is? He'd also upscale the Administrator's messagers who are supersonic+.
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Something crazy like that
Hale bouta be the most stacked profile we have on the TF2 page
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I'll make the calc that assumes the ice turned into water and then gas, idk if i'll get something wrong so tell me if i do.
Patagonia Explosion Calc - Team Fortress 2
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Alright so I got good news and bad news
Good news is the calc is done. bad news is that its not much with it ranging from small building to at most 1 tons of tnt in building level
The main issue I think is the usage of ice pulverization since it doesn't have a vaporization value so the results got lowered
ice beargs are usually at a temperature of 0°C when we talk about the most external parts of it
Melting valule = 306.0529 J/cc
Vaporization of water = 2575 J/cc
Small
Volume = 7,222,086 cm^3
AP = 7,222,086 * 306.0529 = 2,210,340,364.3494 * 2575 = 5,691,626,438,199.705 Joules - 1.36 Kilotons of tnt (Low 7-C)
Medium
Volume = 101,504,981 cm^3
AP = 101,504,981 * 306.0529 = 36.547.162.773 * 2575 = 79.994.676.533.699,37 Joules - 19.1 Kilotons of tnt (7-C)
Large
Volume = 566,223,893 cm^3
AP = 566,223,893 * 306.0529 = 173.294.464.501,9397 * 2575 = 446.233.246.092.494,7 Joules - 1.06 Megaton of tnt (Low 7-B)
Ah....
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Uhh...maybe we won't need the tfc deathpack to upscale hale
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about the direct hit, the mercs can be hypersonic on speed cuz they can reflect a max speed direct hit from a gigant robot pyro
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honestly tho, i would have just used the cart to mesure the icebeargPatagonia Explosion Calc - Team Fortress 2
Alright so I got good news and bad news
Good news is the calc is done. bad news is that its not much with it ranging from small building to at most 1 tons of tnt in building level
The main issue I think is the usage of ice pulverization since it doesn't have a vaporization value so the results got lowered
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I might make an edit for that, not sure given in how acceptable it is but Ill put that into note
Also this would just only scale to Hale since no merc can survive that so the yeti statement does go into clutch
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good
Honestly i'm really ok with that, infact i think saxton should alwats be at least a tier above the mercs regardless so i don't really care if it doesn't scale to the mercs
ask diamond drone so we can be sure its appliable, in case i'll see if i can reason with him
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I don’t think he’s a calc group member, so maybe ask someone else.
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i meant if i can do legaly the calc i did (cuz he's pretty smart), but yeah you are right we should ask someone else.
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honestly a cool feat but like who scales to this outside of hale im just realizing?
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No one, Hale and his dad are all the top tiers
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the yeti and Heavy for Lifting strenght
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OH MY GOD YOU ARE RIGHT
Maybe heavy should partialy scale considering the rope pull
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Honestly i could have mede an higher end considering mines can be even 2,1 km deep
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you know what? google says 1 km is the average for mines so i'm gonna do that
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life is good when your tf2 calcs gives you 8-A resoults and Class M lifting strenght
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wait if it scales to heavy then it (partialy) scales to everyone (?)
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ah btw the yeti should be uneffected by the payload ap making him 8,48 Megatons of Tnt, then he was enhanced by hale scientist in yeti park so it should have made him at least 1,5 times stronger 12,72 Megatons of Tnt, then saxton hale came and he menaged to kill the little (pun intended) b*stard with a punch 101,76 Megatons of Tnt.
In conclusion, if we have done everithing right we can give hale at least 7-A attack potency with saxton punch (altho i'm not sure because saxton's hand wasn't glowing so i woudn't be so sure to give him even more buff than now) and 7-A durability.
But in an hypotetical scenario where we give saxton a higher value for the saxton punch it should be around 3 times stronger than a normal punch (due of how random crits work) making him 305,28 Megatons of Tnt in that case.
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Fun Fact: this was one of my first calcs and it gave me 9-A results
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Do we know if Hale did it in one punch?
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the wiki says quote "Bilious was able to escape by punching it open" so i'll assume he one punched that shi open
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It's a reasonable assumption considering his son, and it's consistent
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should i add 20% hollowness to the calc? the debrees could have some open spaces on them
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ok so, i realized this calc is wrong cuz i'm stacking the joules from the melting of the ice with the vaporization value of water, now i'll correct my mistake by just multipling the values separatly and then combining them with each other.
Also i'll take in consideration that the volume of ice increases of 9%.
Melting valule = 306.0529 J/cc
Vaporization of water = 2575 J/cc
Small
Volume = 7,222,086 cm^3
Melting ice = 7,222,086*306.0529 = 2.210.340.364,3494 Joules of Energy
Volume loss = 7,222,086*9/100 = 6.499,8 - 7,222,086 = 7.215.586,2 cm^3
Vaporizing water = 7.215.586,2*2575 = 18.580.134.465 Joules of Energy
Total ap = 2.210.340.364,3494+18.580.134.465 =20.790.474.829 Joules of Energy - 4.96 Tons of Tnt (High 8-C)
Medium
Volume = 101,504,981 cm^3
Melting ice = 101,504,981*306.0529 = 31.065.893.799 Joules of Energy
Volume loss = 101,504,981*9/100 = 9.135.448 - 101,504,981 = 92.369.533 cm^3
Vaporizing water = 92.369.533*2575 = 237.851.547.475 Joules of Energy
Total ap = 237.851.547.475+31.065.893.799 = 268.917.441.274 Joules of Energy = 64.27 Tons of Tnt (8-B+)
Large
Volume = 566,223,893 cm^3
Melting ice = 566,223,893*306.0529 = 173.294.464.501 Joules of Energy
Volume loss = 566,223,893*9/100 = 50.960.150-566,223,893 = 515.263.743 cm^3
Vaporization of water = 515.263.743*2575 = 1.326.804.138.225 Joules of Energy
Total ap = 1.326.804.138.225+173.294.464.501 = 1.500.098.602.726 Joules of Energy = 358.5 Tons of Tnt (8-A)
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Oh would you look at that, more consistency for High 8-C
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Damn, das tuf. But still noice and consistent tho, which is always better than a higher number
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DAWG I'M ABOUT TO CRY
But at least i still got the Bilius hale calc at least.....
Diamond drone on his way to debunk that calc or find an error that gets it on tier 9-A
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There there
I don't even think thats possible for this kind of explosion size
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It'd also be fruitful to recalc the Ayer's Rock feat for LS, accounting for the actual thickness of the styrofoam/balsa wood shell instead of assuming 95% hollowness like Soupywolf did.
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i meant for the bilius hale feat
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