DELTARUNE; Chapter 3 & 4 !!!SPOILER!!! Discussion Thread

[Da3ggman]

@Da3ggman Didja beat Roaring Knight?

No….I’ll get back to it eventually.

 

[Galactidot]

No….I’ll get back to it eventually.

That's okay lol
You'll do great whenever you're ready!

 

[EnderLord8]

Asgore runs over Dess is one of my favorite memes so far bro

 

[Tots_Real]

There are stars in the Dark Worlds
Seen in Castle Town and in Chapters 3 and 4
Possibly in chapter 2 too, but people say those specifically are fake because the sky is a screen in the Cyber World

I don't really think that makes that much sense since the whole thing of Dark Worlds are that they're real things distorted by the concept of darkness, like all of the items and objects exist in real space but are being distorted by the "unreality" of the fountain. It would be weird if there were actual, proper, stars in such "worlds" cause what would they be abstractions of exactly?

 

[ShockingPsychic]

Can we start giving Darkners 10-C lightworld keys

this is a joke

 

[Ti58]

I'm not even sure about that... Why? Humans traditionally keep their loved one's ashes, as, well, we don't instantly turn to dust upon death.
We see Gerson's dust on top of his hammer is what made his Darkner form. Not ashes, dust. Something readily available upon death for monsters
(potentially up until now)
I'm wondering if this is a Susie-specific quirk that'll be touched on later?

I don't think so. No one questions Susie bleeding, sans bleeds too, plus Noelle seems to bleed too going by that moving red dot from the "thinking about Noelle" weird route scene

 

[ShockingPsychic]

is the rabbit baby just stupid then lol

 

[Blunt_Claw]

is the rabbit baby just stupid then lol

Well yeah it's a baby.

 

[ShockingPsychic]

 

[Tots_Real]

I just presume the Dark Fountain made Susie bleed due to the whole unreality shit. That or Susie is like half human.

 

[RinneItachi]

So anyways do we agree that Asgore is probably gonna be the next secret boss or at least very related to it? There's tons of signs.

 

[LittleGuy99]

So anyways do we agree that Asgore is probably gonna be the next secret boss or at least very related to it? There's tons of signs.

Yes

 

[Tots_Real]

So anyways do we agree that Asgore is probably gonna be the next secret boss or at least very related to it? There's tons of signs.

I mean Chapter 5 is implied to be something to do with garden/field.

 

[Galactidot]

I mean Chapter 5 is implied to be something to do with garden/field.

I'm thinking he's main boss, and friend inside me is actually real for secret

 

[Comiphorous]

friend inside me

this made me realize a Pete 'n VB Fc/oc page is non-existent...

 

[Tots_Real]

I'm thinking he's main boss, and friend inside me is actually real for secret

I mean it could always be a flowey stand in.

 

[Blunt_Claw]

The sprite for Asgore's prophecy is labeled spr_dw_church_prophecy_boss3_icon.
The sprite for Queen's prophecy is boss1 and Tenna's is boss2.
Because of this I think that he's going to be the main boss and not the secret boss.
Source

 

[ShockingPsychic]

Don't the secret bosses also have a habit of hinting towards the main boss? Jevil mentions Queen, Spamton mentions Tenna, the flower stuff is in Gerson's dialogue

 

[RinneItachi]

DUDE. DUDE. DUDE.

IF WE GET.

A REMIX.

OF ASGORE'S THEME.

I'M GONNA CRY.

 

[LittleGuy99]

DUDE. DUDE. DUDE.

IF WE GET.

A REMIX.

OF ASGORE'S THEME.

I'M GONNA CRY.

Would be peak

 

[Comiphorous]

DUDE. DUDE. DUDE.

IF WE GET.

A REMIX.

OF ASGORE'S THEME.

I'M GONNA CRY.

Gaster get off RinneItachi's account bro you're using your typing quirk i know it's you

 

[RinneItachi]

Gaster get off RinneItachi's account bro you're using your typing quirk i know it's you

☺︎⚐︎︎︎︎☠︎☝︎❄︎⚐︎☠︎ ︎︎ ❄︎☟︎☜︎ ︎☠︎︎☝︎☟︎❄︎ ︎☜︎☹︎❄︎✌︎☼︎🕆︎☠︎☜︎

 

[Ti58]

I just presume the Dark Fountain made Susie bleed due to the whole unreality shit. That or Susie is like half human.

Dark fountains don't suddenly make you full of blood somehow and Susie is a monster.

 

[StrymULTRA]

I just presume the Dark Fountain made Susie bleed due to the whole unreality shit. That or Susie is like half human.

1. Why are you assuming UT Monsters = DR Monsters
2. Susie literally says "everyone bleeds" in Ch 1 as if it's something normal

 

[RinneItachi]

So I was a bit late to the thread but...AM I THE ONLY ONE HERE THAT DIDN'T KNOW THERE'S A "MIKE" BOSS FIGHT?



Can't believe I completely missed this for so long. That aside, I love the gimmick that even in-universe, Mike seems to be a mystery to other Darkners. Which is obviously Toby poking some fun at us.

 

[Ti58]

Shouldn't Noelle have some form of plot/fate manipulation or something? Via the weird route being
Ralsei says this:

* But... but no matter what we do...

• Our fate...
• ... is already decided.

And this too, but only on the weird route:

• I want to believe... it can change!
• That there isn't just one ending!
• But...
• What would that be...?
• If there was something else, what would it be...?
• And how do we know
• It wouldn't be something even worse?

This is very obviously about the weird route. This should imply that Noelle has some option to break out of fate and change the prophecy's outcome (to something even worse).

 

[Axorandom0]

Shouldn't Noelle have some form of plot/fate manipulation or something? Via the weird route being
Ralsei says this:

And this too, but only on the weird route:

This is very obviously about the weird route. This should imply that Noelle has some option to break out of fate and change the prophecy's outcome (to something even worse).

I think that’s more of the player’s/soul’s influence than Noelle’s

 

[Ti58]

I think that’s more of the player’s/soul’s influence than Noelle’s

It's what the player/the soul does by using Noelle.

 

[Kellex]

Kris should have extrasensory perception or enhanced senses now since it's been made clear what happens when they close their eyes.

In chapter 3, Ralsei specifically says they should watch Susie from afar by closing their eyes, and Kris does this twice in chapter 4 without Ralsei. One is a multiple choice (contains weird route spoilers), and the other one was when Kris had no other choice, but to close their eyes themselves.

 

[Tots_Real]

1. Why are you assuming UT Monsters = DR Monsters
2. Susie literally says "everyone bleeds" in Ch 1 as if it's something normal

Because there's dialog in chapter 1 where Kris is directly asked if it's hurt to be made of blood. Sure it's from the kid bunny and the argument "kids are just stupid" could be used but it's never the less strange for a kid of any age to say because if he were to have blood that would imply that they'd never gotten hurt before and seen their own blood which would itself be weird. Like for a kid around 5 to 10 ish to have never gotten a cut or ruffed up their knee is a bit odd.
It should also be considers that Deltarune is in fact a game, and as such there exists intent in the games dialog and where it's placed. Toby made an active decision to include that line of in that spot, it would be weird to include something like that for no reason and to then go back on it later on. Like why would someone include dialog about how "it's strange for you to have blood" when everyone in your setting has blood.
It's possible that Toby just forgot, it's 7 years and all, but even in chapter 2 a sprite of Susie hurt with her clearly bleeding was cut from the game so Toby has considered showing Susie bleed before but decided against at the time.

 

[Tots_Real]

this made me realize a Pete 'n VB Fc/oc page is non-existent...

Was bored

Pete n VB

Pete n VB is Deltarune Fan boss created by PootStablook, serving as the secret boss of an alternate Chapter 3.[Note 1] He was once the protagonist for a cowboy show called "Pete n VB The Great Vigilante" which has aired 28 episodes in it's first season with a 29th episode called "Destiny Awaits"...

fcoc-vs-battles.fandom.com

 

[LittleGuy99]

Was bored

Pete n VB

Pete n VB is Deltarune Fan boss created by PootStablook, serving as the secret boss of an alternate Chapter 3.[Note 1] He was once the protagonist for a cowboy show called "Pete n VB The Great Vigilante" which has aired 28 episodes in it's first season with a 29th episode called "Destiny Awaits"...

fcoc-vs-battles.fandom.com

Peak

 

[Tots_Real]

I didn't put quotes in cause I'm lazy, will probably add some latter.

 

[koopa3144]

I've posted Mike's profile. I'll add them to the verse page in a bit.

 

[Axorandom0]

I've posted Mike's profile. I'll add them to the verse page in a bit.

Something I suggest is putting the Ralsei door feat as a justification for the LS as well as the Kris one since that’s the big LS feat that the verse scales to

Like yeah the value is in the stat value sections but it’s cleaner to also have it in the justifications

 

[ShockingPsychic]

I take it I need to wait for Titan 4-A stuff to get handled before posting Knight's profile?

 

[Comiphorous]

I take it I need to wait for Titan 4-A stuff to get handled before posting Knight's profile?

Proooobably.

 

[FinePoint]

I take it I need to wait for Titan 4-A stuff to get handled before posting Knight's profile?

The Knight would massively upscale from the Fun Gang for stomping and blitzing them via cutscene, so yes.

 

[LittleGuy99]

I'm writing my CRT of the powers and abilities for the Delta Warriors (It's going to take a while)
I'm also working on a profile for Castle Town

 

[StarShooter80]

Chapter 7 ending leak