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DELTARUNE; Chapter 3 & 4 !!!SPOILER!!! Discussion Thread

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Ednaxel2 said:
Chapter 7 ending leak
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Accurate
 
Edutyn said:
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Deltarune: Calcs p2

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Think the second calc runs into the same problems that the Knight Knight sun creation feat runs into,
As in
  1. The High-Energy-Density Plasma is caused by the intense and concentrated energy and nuclear fusion at the center of the star. As the document specifies, it happens excusively at the CORE (Ironically) of the star, not the entire star.
    • The core of a star has 0.225 Solar Radius of the entire celestial body. On the original that's a radius of around 44cm.
    • 0.4466*0.225 = 0.100485 meters! Or 0.00425m3
    • If we then apply the value 1e10 J/m3, we get 0.01 Tons of TNT, or 9-A. That's far from 8-C.
  2. Even with this downgrade, and I'M SORRY! But it still would not be a valid feat!!!! [I CAN'T BELIEVE IT EITHER!!!] Why, you ask? Because it's contradicted by the Sun's own Gravitational Binding Energy! Yes, the GBE must be higher than the energy the star actually produces, and it is in all cases of actual stars. That's because the GBE represents the total energy required to overcome the star's gravitational forces and disperse its material completely. It acts as a measure of the binding strength holding the star together. If the energy density of the plasma were to exceed the GBE, it would indicate that the star's internal energy is greater than the gravitational forces trying to disperse it. This would result in the star expanding or even undergoing a catastrophic event like a supernova. This is clearly not the case with KnightKnight's attack!
  3. Stars result in Plasma, not the other way around! Plasma happens because stars are too big, and too massive, resulting in a temperature of 10 million Kelvin at the core!!! They have plasma at their core because of the extreme conditions of temperature and pressure present in the stellar interior! Needless to say, KnightKnight's Sun doesn't have the mass, nor the heat to achieve this!
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  • High-energy plasma is caused by nuclear fusion in the core of a star.
  • The core of a star is much smaller than the entire star.
  • The energy density of plasma is very high, but it is still much lower than the gravitational binding energy of a star.
  • If the energy density of plasma were to exceed the gravitational binding energy, the star would expand or even undergo a supernova.
  • Knight Knight's Sun is too small and low-mass to produce the high-energy plasma that is claimed.
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Eden_Warlock99 said:
Think the second calc runs into the same problems that the Knight Knight sun creation feat runs into,
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Yes, I knew it would most likely not be valid, but it was still fun to calculate.

On a side note, since Shuttah is a camera and one of his attacks is to use the camera flash to attack, could that be used for SOL deltarune?
 
The Titans seem to BE a living Dark Fountain (though there were some good points raised against this idea), and Dark Fountains have 4-A size/energy output, so some are suggesting the Titan to be 4-A

I'm honestly not sure where I fall on 4-A anymore, I'm neutral for now. There are good points for and against it
 
I think that could be pretty valid cause that is just what is physically shown. DW stars being real stars are a bit questionable though.
 
I still don't really agree with the 4-A stuff, like dark worlds are really weird in how "real" they are. Like for all we know they're could just be just balls of like light a couple miles up or something or just like cracks in "reality". Like unless there's actual evidence these worlds even extend that far and don't just seize to exist after some point in a forever void of literal darkness I don't buy it.
 
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Nah, Eden is actually copy-pasting a downgrade made here from a sock of a certain someone who is well known to downplay the verse with spite, pedantry and toxicity.
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It’s really just a physics-based issue, one that even Psycho agreed with, soooo
 
Jevil is probably gonna show up again in one of the last chapters. He just gives me that "Early enemy that you remember who shows back up near the end". Kinda like when Flowey pops up and kills Asgore after doing nothing since the Ruins.
 
ShockingPsychic said:
The Titans seem to BE a living Dark Fountain (though there were some good points raised against this idea), and Dark Fountains have 4-A size/energy output, so some are suggesting the Titan to be 4-A

I'm honestly not sure where I fall on 4-A anymore, I'm neutral for now. There are good points for and against it
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What are the points for it?

By thr way, excerpt from Creation Feats page:
  • There should be some reason to consider the backgrounds stars, not just painted decorations within a throne room or museum.
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RinneItachi said:
Jevil is probably gonna show up again in one of the last chapters. He just gives me that "Early enemy that you remember who shows back up near the end". Kinda like when Flowey pops up and kills Asgore after doing nothing since the Ruins.
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doubt
 
Ti58 said:
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I don't mean Jevil will be a MAJOR villain, that's highly unlikely at this point. I just mean I think he'll appear in the future. It'd be weird for him to just never do anything despite being iconic and how Spamton has literally shown up again in game. Jevil's not dead, he can show up whenever he wants. Would be a big waste on Toby's part imo.
 
RinneItachi said:
I don't mean Jevil will be a MAJOR villain, that's highly unlikely at this point. I just mean I think he'll appear in the future. It'd be weird for him to just never do anything despite being iconic and how Spamton has literally shown up again in game. Jevil's not dead, he can show up whenever he wants. Would be a big waste on Toby's part imo.
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Spamton only showed up as a gag though and will most likely never appear as an important character. Jevil is referenced already by Tasque Manager and stuff but I really doubt he will ever be important again. Even his Castle Town RECRUIT got removed. Just because he's iconic doesn't mean much.
 
Ti58 said:
Spamton only showed up as a gag though and will most likely never appear as an important character. Jevil is referenced already by Tasque Manager and stuff but I really doubt he will ever be important again. Even his Castle Town RECRUIT got removed. Just because he's iconic doesn't mean much.
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Don't underestimate Tony's Tricks.
 
Noelle should lose her immunity to blood manip because there's literally a sprite of her blood that is shown on the weird route, it's called "blood_drip" in the files

Undyne too like I already mentioned and Berdly as well

and very obviously Susie too
 
Ti58 said:
Noelle should lose her immunity to blood manip because there's literally a sprite of her blood that is shown on the weird route, it's called "blood_drip" in the files
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Could someone compile scans of all the evidence of monsters having blood in Deltarune?

I believe we have three now?
 
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