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Yeah Akaza has a weakness that he refuses to fight women. If Hashiras refuse to fight a human, that should be listed as well
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Hashiras vs Mori Dan (2-9-0)
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Kazuma_kuwabara
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Catbowtie
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Just make them willing to kill a human. That's good enough
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It's a redundant weakness to add when the slayers have never once fought a human in the series
Catbowtie
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LOL. Didn't even see that. Okay well I guess we're all good then
Kazuma_kuwabara
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Mars (Black Clover)
Mars is a citizen from the Diamond Kingdom, who was chosen to be apart of an experiment to enhance the magic power of mages. He was merged wth Fana's fire affinity and became enhanced with a number of mage stones. He was brainwashed and fought against Asta and his friends before coming to his...
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Hashira's next opponent btw, if they believe enough, they can win
Kazuma_kuwabara
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Surpassing their limits?
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which is why hashiras win fra
Catbowtie
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Ok bro
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Are you gonna vote?
Kazuma_kuwabara
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would they know that just by looking at him
he just looks like a regular guy and acts like a regular guy, in-series he lived as a regular guy for like 17 years (2 times over) and nobody knew he was a demon until after that
even then it's not the same type of demon as KnY demons
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Every demon slayer pretty much just has extrasensory perception to tell if a person is a human or a demon
Kazuma_kuwabara
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That dude can smell demons from a pocket dimension for some god damn reasonAKA: I smell demons
Tanjiro, 2016-2020
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Not interested in this match-up, but where did you hear that? Speed-amps/Upscaling very much do matter, and is the reason why with sufficient reasoning, you can upscale to the next tier on the wiki (Granted you are near enough to it). With speed amps, while you can't calculate a multiplier, you can gauge how useful it is in a match-up based on feats it did. If someone used a speed-amp that let them run 50 kilometers and throw seven hundred thousand punches faster than someone normally (equal or faster) than them could perceive, that's going to be treated as much bigger than something with a stated increase of say 2x. Just because it's not defined doesn't mean it's automatically lower.
That said, the clip of the "blitz-amp" provided as I've mentioned every time it was sent isn't a good blitz amp. Literally every single demon in that clip reacted to Tanjiro and were able to move while he ran towards them (bar the first demon who was already in the middle of charging him). They were able to put up their weapons and move their arms in defense, he just plowed right through it. Is he faster sure, but that's not a speed-blitz amp.
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Let's be fr you HAVE to understand how incredibly inferior this is to predicting on par literal future sight right?
Mori is directly shown and accepted to have better senses than Mira who even as a relative novice (for GoH standards) could keep up with and out predict teleportation through smell alone with her eyes closed.
Mori is also shown analytical prediction all the time just by adapting so yeah this is really not impressive.
So base average renewal user level feat
That… that's usually how swordsmanship works in general because sword wounds tend to be fatal almost anywhere you could aim at.
But Mori here has more than 6x higher durability so they can't actually kill him in one shot even if they were to get a solid hit.
That's not a skill feat by any means.
Brother Mori jumps from his current Mach 543 to mach 174806000000 by the end of a tournament where he wasn't even challenged by anyone other than a single opponent through AD. Wtf do you mean by "Mori's speed scaling doesn't compare to Demon Slayer"
No, he defeated about 20 executives. There's 1 for each letter of the alphabet.
And to become an executive you have to win a GoH tournament which consists of first getting picked, with only genius fighters are selected for. In chapter 6 the selection process is that at a school designed to train fighters there's a tournament held and only the best fighter gets selected to compete in GoH. This is done all across world to get only the best fighters and all of those then compete with only the very best who wins the tournament gets picked as an executive. So each executive is essentially the best available non-executive fighter in the world.
How exactly does Dead Calm work tho. I didn't mention it so far because it's not explained on the profile. .[/spoiler]
Arkenis
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Was told it by another who was told by Therustyone. Im pretty sure this was about matches not general scaling
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Well undefined speed amps do still matter. It just comes down to the feat, and how well the profile elaborates on it. Dunno how well the Hashira's profiles elaborate on it, but obviously factors like distance and how much the opponent moved in comparison are important factors.
Arkenis
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Idk at some point a feat is just a calc and not a blitz.
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I think the whole speed discussion is kinda a waste of time especially since Mori is inevitably going to be upgraded
At a certain point measuring upscaling becomes impossible because a single blitz gap can be as little as 2x and as high as a nigh-infinite. And it's especially not going to matter in this specific fight.
Mori already starts with a more than 6x durability advantage so if they try to attack him he's either going to precog dodge, IA dodge, or just tank the attack. After that his RE kicks in as a result of being pressured and he jumps to their level or above their level speed. Hell if they do end up damaging him that's even worse for them because Mori has some crazy endurance and it'd mean he's pushed even harder, making him grow faster.
This whole speed discussion literally only covers the first few moments of the fight and yet is half of what the thread has talked about so far.
At a certain point measuring upscaling becomes impossible because a single blitz gap can be as little as 2x and as high as a nigh-infinite. And it's especially not going to matter in this specific fight.
Mori already starts with a more than 6x durability advantage so if they try to attack him he's either going to precog dodge, IA dodge, or just tank the attack. After that his RE kicks in as a result of being pressured and he jumps to their level or above their level speed. Hell if they do end up damaging him that's even worse for them because Mori has some crazy endurance and it'd mean he's pushed even harder, making him grow faster.
This whole speed discussion literally only covers the first few moments of the fight and yet is half of what the thread has talked about so far.
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Voting Mori Dan FRA.
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How fast does RE work?
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It usually depends on the situation and how much Mori is pushed. With Jung he failed to tag him about 3 times and ended up blitzing him with the 4th attack, and Jung was 8x faster than him there. In more extreme situations he could outgrow a 250,000x multiplier in the time it took him to throw one kick. If we go by tiers rather than stated multipliers it gets even crazier because he's relative if not superior to people like Mira who grew from low 7-B to 5-B in the span of a single fight.
That being said, his RE is MUCH more effective at covering stat disadvantages than it is at creating them. That is to say that he will catch up and maybe even become noticeably faster than them extremely fast, but it's not like he's going to be statuing and one shotting them 5 seconds into the fight.
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Mori Dan FRA
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Grace started here
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forgive the disbelif but this seems like total bs ngl
is that by powerscaling vs battles calc stuff or actually stated within the manhwa that bro suddenly grew 250 thousand times stronger in the time span it took for him to throw an attack
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I'm going to go ahead and throw out the white flag here and say that Mori Dan Stomps
Mori Dan's Accelerated Development works far too fast for the Hashira to kill him before he grows to overpower them. Mori Dan can go from Large Town Level to the near peak of Small City Level or minimum threshold of City Level, which is 6.3 Megatons. Mori Dan, with AD, is >6.36905 Megaton, and has a 51x AP difference. Mori Dan already starts with a 7x AP difference (6.8, to be exact. I rounded up to the nearest whole number). One punch is enough to severely mangle Marked Mitsuri, Marked Obanai, Marked Giyu, and instantaneously break the skulls of Shinobu, Rengoku, Tengen, and the former three Hashira I mentioned without a Demon Slayer Mark. Gyomei and Sanemi are the only ones who could theoretically survive, considering the Demon Slayer Mark can match people who grew 4x stronger, so the 7x gap can maybe look like a 3x gap, but the gap will only widen considering DavidTPPM's post about Mori Dan's RE (I had no idea it worked that fast). Mori Dan can simply make three kicks, and now he has a 51x AP difference and is moving 4x faster than everyone except Gyomei and Sanemi. This is not mentioning the other multipliers that Dan will be adding to his Profile later on.
So yea, it just looks like Mori Dan Stomps the Hashira here.
Mori Dan's Accelerated Development works far too fast for the Hashira to kill him before he grows to overpower them. Mori Dan can go from Large Town Level to the near peak of Small City Level or minimum threshold of City Level, which is 6.3 Megatons. Mori Dan, with AD, is >6.36905 Megaton, and has a 51x AP difference. Mori Dan already starts with a 7x AP difference (6.8, to be exact. I rounded up to the nearest whole number). One punch is enough to severely mangle Marked Mitsuri, Marked Obanai, Marked Giyu, and instantaneously break the skulls of Shinobu, Rengoku, Tengen, and the former three Hashira I mentioned without a Demon Slayer Mark. Gyomei and Sanemi are the only ones who could theoretically survive, considering the Demon Slayer Mark can match people who grew 4x stronger, so the 7x gap can maybe look like a 3x gap, but the gap will only widen considering DavidTPPM's post about Mori Dan's RE (I had no idea it worked that fast). Mori Dan can simply make three kicks, and now he has a 51x AP difference and is moving 4x faster than everyone except Gyomei and Sanemi. This is not mentioning the other multipliers that Dan will be adding to his Profile later on.
So yea, it just looks like Mori Dan Stomps the Hashira here.
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It's shown rather than stated. To put it simply, Mori uses a 250,000x multiplier, loses it after some fighting, then gets attacked right after losing it. Then he beats the opponents ass and is stated to be far stronger than before.
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@DavidTPPM do you think this matchup is a stomp? (So therefore, this match cannot be added)
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Just a small correction here. It's not like Mori will kick them 4 times, get 8x stronger, then kick them 4 more times and another 8x amp. After he catches up to their stats his growth will notably slow down.
For example with Jung, they had a pretty long fight where they were tied before Mori started to get ahead of Jung. Jung then used the 8x multiplier which forced Mori to grow faster in order to catch up.
So just like with Jung, as long as him and the Hashira are relative his growth will be present but much slower for as long they remain relative or inferior to him, and only get super crazy when they have a significant advantage.
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i don't know the context, but i'm fairly certain something something about removing the shackles imposed on him by the supreme gods has somethign to do with it
bro is not randomly growing 250 thousand times stronger on a whim
