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If you are tier 1-A and your hax are tier 0
You're either a Lord of the Rings character
Or you're violating Tier 0
You're either a Lord of the Rings character
Or you're violating Tier 0
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Top 15 Strongest Characters for Every Tier
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how do you get tier 0 hax in the first place? seems like tier 0 isnt as restricted as it sounds
Rakih_Elyan
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Being blessed by a tier 0
Pedonar
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they are High 1-A Smurfs?
Currently OD is 1-A Baseline
But he has layered Plot Manipulation; the Outer Gods, born from Chaos, are described as existing outside the order of the world and cannot be recorded by the Final Wall.
Despite that, they’re still treated as characters within the Oldest Dream’s dream
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Outer gods are not 1-A tho so that's not layered plot hax unless the plot hax is not 1-A.
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Final wall is 1-A
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Even being Blessed by a Tier 0 can only get you up to to High 1-A+ (Type 2). Period
Ohhh boy. World of Darkness, is the God of Smurf hax.
They can have up to Infinite Supra-Quality extension hax by creating/manipulating a Tellurian. Which is pure (im)-possible ontologies beyond the Hierarchies of the Umbra and Tapestry… even when they can still physically exist within the Tapestry, which is normal 3-D reality but can go up to 1-A+ (Absolute Infinite/All Possible Layers)
Digital_Franz
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Wait until I cook some good High 1-A+ shi-
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Good luck with that
Digital_Franz
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Digital_Franz
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And can you tell me why you're ragebaiting with Oldest Dream when it's about 1-C keys?
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Can you tell me why you're ragebaiting with 1-C key when it's Top Strongest Characters thread?
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I guess you don't get it? It's a spot between 1-C keys and suddenly you bring If not then it's an incon he was never shown being able to fight at all as an oldest dream.
Like yeah what does his Oldest Dream key have to do with it?
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Just make it Characters from Yin Tian Shen Yin, there are multiple 2-B and Low 2-C's.
The Evil God of Death (Yin Tian Shen Yin)
The Evil God of Death started as an Evil God Embryo deep within the heart of the previous Vortex of Creation, now known as the Abyssal Paradise at the end of the Nether River. It took shape after the Final Battle between Mycroft and its allies against the horde of Evil Gods. This particular...vsbattles.fandom.com
For 1st 2-B and 2nd Low 2-C due to this guy High 1-A smurf.
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Someone suggested first place for it, so i thought that 1-C key might have 1-A hax from his last key which is what's needed for someone to try to take the spot, but i guess it doesn't. He can pretty much just take the last spot but there are probably stronger 1-C characters that are also not on the list tbh
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He has 1-A smurf, but I don't understand what his smurf has to do with the fighting capability of his 1-C key? It's like saying that someone who receives a smurf from a 1-A concept needs the concept to be able to fight.
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So what can his 1-A smurf in his 1-C key do
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All his arsenal at level 1-A (Plot Manipulation, CM1, IM2, Existence Erasure, etc.). And I'm not even sure that Shallow Vernal can interact with his NEP.
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I can't say about Low 5-B and 1-C... But Absolutely Not Low 2-C... Not unless they have (Infinite-Supra-Qualitative) extensioned High 1-A hax. Which is arguable being High 1-A+ hax, due to it being pure Ontology and Modal Logic.
And has unfathomably many logical states of Transduality (Type 3) through the Law of Noncontradiction and more.
Here is a Blog about True Magick that mages can use, its ofc not Finished Yet. But it'll give an idea of what they can accomplish
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Nah it's cooked. What is even that thing?
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What is what... the Blog?
Cus I haven't slept since... making that...Send help
Cus I haven't slept since... making that...
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She has passive 1-A plot hax
Unsure if it's layered or not.
Which is where oldest dream comes into question, if it can help him or not.
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Oh forgot to say... Each Dot level is an Entire Hierarchy (which has Innumerable, possibly Infinite Layers) concurrent with the previous one...
Because Layers of Magick is through Successes, which the quantity is correspondent of the Mage's Aretē. (Example: You have Aretē of 5. You can get up to 5 Successes and thus... 5 Layers of hax). The part that gets Crazy is that each Dot of Sphere can not be affected At all by a lower Dot level, no matter how much Aretē they have.
Example: You have Time ⬤⬤, but you can have like (45,837,295,876,728,945,798,256 Aretē) cus there is No limit to how much Aretē you can have, but even when you have every single success of all that Aretē and hax Layers... You Literally Can Not do anything with that Time ⬤⬤ hax to another person with Time ⬤⬤⬤, and same thing is said to Time ⬤⬤⬤ to Time ⬤⬤⬤⬤ and so on...
So pure Archmasters (9 Dots) can have At least 8 full Hierarchies (and then add their Arete onto that)
So (8 Hierarchies ) and (Innumerable, possibly Infinite Layers) of said High 1-A Hax
Because Layers of Magick is through Successes, which the quantity is correspondent of the Mage's Aretē. (Example: You have Aretē of 5. You can get up to 5 Successes and thus... 5 Layers of hax). The part that gets Crazy is that each Dot of Sphere can not be affected At all by a lower Dot level, no matter how much Aretē they have.
Example: You have Time ⬤⬤, but you can have like (45,837,295,876,728,945,798,256 Aretē) cus there is No limit to how much Aretē you can have, but even when you have every single success of all that Aretē and hax Layers... You Literally Can Not do anything with that Time ⬤⬤ hax to another person with Time ⬤⬤⬤, and same thing is said to Time ⬤⬤⬤ to Time ⬤⬤⬤⬤ and so on...
So pure Archmasters (9 Dots) can have At least 8 full Hierarchies (and then add their Arete onto that)
So (8 Hierarchies ) and (Innumerable, possibly Infinite Layers) of said High 1-A Hax
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The verse. It's just abused at this point.
His condition doesn't matter, he's just a source of power.
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Deadass, No Limits Fallacy is almost like a Joke to World of Darkness.
Pure Possibility...
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holy
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Genuinely wouldn't be surprised if it turned out that the Authors of WoD wrote it while being high af. Because holy shit, the scans and the blogs sound like the rambling of a madman. Genuinely don't know any verse that is stronger than it (excluding tier 0).
Anyways, for 2-C, I heard Rider having 1-A stuff, but I still don't know how it works or whether it's passive, especially since there are characters who are not smurf that are above him (mainly Anima and Touhou). Want Wang Wei to fight them.
Anyways, for 2-C, I heard Rider having 1-A stuff, but I still don't know how it works or whether it's passive, especially since there are characters who are not smurf that are above him (mainly Anima and Touhou). Want Wang Wei to fight them.
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Had Tier 0 not had the restrictions, almost everythin in WoD would be 0. Due to its complete immutability/changelessness and pure logistics and philosophies.
But yeah, for now... honestly only updated/revised Journey to the West can even compete with WoD with it being Infinite Supra-Qualitative Superiority for its Cosmology, and then all the Transduality it has.
And honestly, if what you say is true about WoD's creators/authors... I NEED whatever they're having
But yeah, for now... honestly only updated/revised Journey to the West can even compete with WoD with it being Infinite Supra-Qualitative Superiority for its Cosmology, and then all the Transduality it has.
And honestly, if what you say is true about WoD's creators/authors... I NEED whatever they're having
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okay but what the f*ck is infinite supra qualitative superiority? since when do we powerscale toyotas now
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Where's Goku dawg
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tier 0 chars are not allowed in the list, since tier 0 (where goku is) are strongest beings in fiction and are just so strong they cant even beat each other but solo fiction and non fiction
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So basically, High 1-A isn't a ceiling, it’s open-ended. You can stack as many meta-hierarchies as you want above a given High 1-A character.
Like:
- High 1-A Hierarchy (God A transcends God B, who transcends God C, etc)
- Hierarchy that transcends them entirely (meta-level)
- Then some other Hierarchy that transcends that (meta-meta-level),
- And so forth forever.
Now, when people say Supra-Quality, they mean something that’s beyond all of those hierarchies entirely. But you can't really have "infinite Supra-Quality" because the moment you compare two Supra-Quality beings, they just become part of another hierarchy again.
High 1-A+, on the other hand, isn’t just beyond every hierarchy. It’s something like a being, place, or entity that can either affect all of that or embody them. And that includes not just structured layers, but also the weird, formless stuff that doesn’t even qualify as a hierarchy. After all, a Supra-Quality being who exists in a fantasy verse, probably isn't going to have the same kind of hierarchies that Sci-Fi one does.
But High 1-A+ encompasses it all.
Tier 0 then stands beyond everything, since it lacks quality. You can only compare two things because they have qualities in them. So if something lacks qualities, it can't be compared to anything else, and is functionally omnipotent, exceeding High 1-A+
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High 1-A+ is beyond hierarchies entirely. And is more about Logistics, Great Example is Modal Realism. Or just pure ontological transcendence.
There are two types of High 1-A+ (Hopefully for now):
Type 1 is creating/destroying or manipulating a "quantity" of possible worlds/any pure ontological factors/structures.
Type 2 is creating/destroying or manipulating ALL possible worlds and ontologies.
In turn, High 1-A+ (Type 2)... literally, figuratively... any and every term is EVERYTHING in the Cosmology.
There are two types of High 1-A+ (Hopefully for now):
Type 1 is creating/destroying or manipulating a "quantity" of possible worlds/any pure ontological factors/structures.
Type 2 is creating/destroying or manipulating ALL possible worlds and ontologies.
In turn, High 1-A+ (Type 2)... literally, figuratively... any and every term is EVERYTHING in the Cosmology.
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I'm pretty sure Type 1 is creating/destroying or manipulating, while Type 2 is embodying/literally being all of that stuff.
One means not all meta-hierarchies exist, but a being is capable of creating them, or destroying them, IF they existed or create them.
The other means you are that space where all possible meta-hierarchies, and things that aren't meta-hierarchies, take shape within. Basically, it is the sandbox of all of a Tier 0 being's potential creations.
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Hmm, I see.
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Anyway, putting unfathomably High 1-A stuff and hax to that caliber.
I propose putting "Characters from Super Dragon Ball Heroes" on Low 1-C as 6th. Above Xue Ying, as from what I can see they stomp.
Infinite 5-D Hypertimelines AP/Striking and Dura. And Layered "Time" Power
I propose putting "Characters from Super Dragon Ball Heroes" on Low 1-C as 6th. Above Xue Ying, as from what I can see they stomp.
Infinite 5-D Hypertimelines AP/Striking and Dura. And Layered "Time" Power
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Might be an interesting vs match for right now.
Think should probably be a vs thread.
As for later eh may or may not work as Shallow Vernal could be upgraded to a layer into 1-A. At least my initial thoughts are leading that way, we will see come a couple weeks/months from now when I sort out the World Creator hierarchy.
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How high into 1A is Kim Dokja? Or does he have some kind of smurf
Cause if it's not all possible extensions or high 1-A smurf, probably not getting passed last boss
Cause if it's not all possible extensions or high 1-A smurf, probably not getting passed last boss
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This is crazy lmao
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