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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

Ednaxel2 said:
You keep saying that this is “us” saying this but all anyone is doing is pointing out the issues that occur for the story if we accept anything the author or owners of a story dictate as true. They should not come before the primary material it’s as simple as that
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Yes, and I'm saying writers do not always care about consistency. Just that. Powerscaling is a subjective matter, but offical statements should also be taken into account in regards specific contexts like timeline stuff. One can disagree with that logic, but that also falls under the umbrella of subjectivity aswell. So in my point of view, instead of trying to apply my own conclusions, I rather listen to official sources in contexts like this.
 
Ruphas_Mafahl123 said:
Neither Toriyama always cared, he always forgot things and retconned them, look at Daima's mess. But wherether we like it or not, their words are above ours.
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Ignoring the obvious response to this, can you just say what's your point in all this?
Because even If you want to have this firm believe in the word of god, this wiki would't accept It because of the contradictions.
 
Fezzih_007 said:
Ignoring the obvious response to this, can you just say what's your point in all this?
Because even If you want to have this firm believe in the word of god, this wiki would't accept It because of the contradictions.
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Sure, but in the wiki there are many things accepted (for many verses) despite the contradictions using the guides. So if we accept one case, all of them should follow by default.
Guides shouldn't be abused all the time, I agree. But in regards timeline stuff, which is never mentioned nor a stablished/strict one in the main series, we have no other option but to accept the timelines Toei/Chonzenshuu and other official sources supported by Toriyama and other prominent figures believe are the right ones, despite the massive contradictions that may arise.

Not always the authors/writers can capture everything they want in the main show for multiple reasons, that's why guides exist, to show what they could not.
 
Ruphas_Mafahl123 said:
Yes, and I'm saying writers do not always care about consistency. Just that. Powerscaling is a subjective matter, but offical statements should also be taken into account in regards specific contexts like timeline stuff. One can disagree with that logic, but that also falls under the umbrella of subjectivity aswell. So in my point of view, instead of trying to apply my own conclusions, I rather listen to official sources in contexts like this.
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If they don’t care about consistency then why bring them up at all (also they do to an extent) it’s weird how you subside the opinions of anyone else with a more rationale explanation, using the primary source material, and instead adhere to authors (a secondary source) who supposedly never care about the consistency of their stories
 
Ednaxel2 said:
If they don’t care about consistency then why bring them up at all (also they do to an extent) it’s weird how you subside the opinions of anyone else with a more rationale explanation, using the primary source material, and instead adhere to authors (a secondary source) who supposedly never care about the consistency of their stories
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The issue becomes more complex now. Yeah, we can always try and give them a more rational explanation. However, we have to bare in mind they also have the power to flip the script whenever they want, after all, the story is more in their head than anything else, that's how retcons happen and all, nothing is set on stone. Daima is a clear example of how many inconsistencies can arise within the main series. They obviously care about consistency to a degree (obviously), but not to the same extent as we do, atleast not in regards what is canon or not. This is also a more common phenomena in the Western world than everywhere else. At the end of the day, our interpretation, while it may seen to be more "consistent" from the outside, we are also entering into the subjective territory at the same time, in one way or another. That's why powerscaling is very divisive, becouse you have to take either stance, whether is more officially supported than the other.
 
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XXBenShapiroXx said:
Bonus points if they hate their parents, siblings, or general family
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StekFence said:
aight, so basically, bubble theory as I understand it states that the universe, and any other universe existing a single space time. So something like uni 7 wouldn’t be its own space time, but instead all 12 universes would simply be 1/12 of the total space time. There’s some other spaces out there but you get the point.
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We removed the Universe in bubble format; this shouldn't be used against the Infinite Universe unless there's a CRT to bring back the marble-shaped cosmology.
 
So because of all these canons now

Im curious, but what series make up the Manga canons, anime Canon, and DBX/DBH canons now?

Edit: series and guides*
 
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