Conquest vs Greed (3-0-0)

[Johner2133451]

Conquest fra

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

These matchups rely entirely on downplaying Conquest

Again, he was sent especifically to subjugate Mark, here he's just there to destroy some places. If he notices he can't hurt the guy he'll just grab him and use him as a battering ram

I don't know how lethal Regulus' attacks are, but given the absured amount of punishment viltrumites can take I wouldn't worry too much about it, and let's not forget the massive speed difference

Regulus’ attacks are hella deadly as they’re all dura negs. He can turn water into a deadly AOE dura neg danmaku. However, this is a stomp as Conquest can literally blitz the entire planet to hell and back like 100 times before dealing with regulus

 

[Catbowtie]

I’ll comment why I think this isn’t a Stomp a little bit later

 

[Tahoy49574]

inb4 another "Conquest will job" when we're told he's conquered plenty of planets on his own when he's introduced, none of which gave him any reason to drag it out

 

[Catbowtie]

Honestly pretty much

 

[JetJZ]

These matchups rely entirely on downplaying Conquest

Again, he was sent especifically to subjugate Mark, here he's just there to destroy some places. If he notices he can't hurt the guy he'll just grab him and use him as a battering ram

I don't know how lethal Regulus' attacks are, but given the absured amount of punishment viltrumites can take I wouldn't worry too much about it, and let's not forget the massive speed difference

Regulus usually uses his Authority to make himself completely invulnerable for his first attack, if Conquest attacks him it would do nothing. If Conquest notices that some random unaccounted guy is able to tank an attack from the second strongest Viltramite without moving, I think it is pretty reasonable for me to assume he would be at least a little interested in him. Conquest has shown to be the type of character to hold back a lot and to tank attacks from his opponents for fun and from his point of view all of Regulus's attacks are just a bit of dust being flung at him. I don't see why he would bother dodging it and one attack would turn Conquest into dust since they ignore durability.

 

[Tahoy49574]

Conquest has shown to be the type of character to hold back a lot and to tank attacks from his opponents for fun

The only attacks he's willingly tanked are Mark's (I won't repeat myself on this), all the others caught him off guard

from his point of view all of Regulus's attacks are just a bit of dust being flung at him. I don't see why he would bother dodging it and one attack would turn Conquest into dust since they ignore durability.

If he faces a guy that's straight up unmovable no matter how hard he tries he'll probably deduce everything else he does to be as unnatural. Even if he wanted to drag it out of curiosity, the attacks are still moving at a snail's pace, he could just put his hand in front and see how it interacts

But if you still argue Conquest will just stand there and let Regulus do all his thing, then this is still a stomp but the other way around

 

[JetJZ]

The only attacks he's willingly tanked are Mark's (I won't repeat myself on this), all the others caught him off guard

If he faces a guy that's straight up unmovable no matter how hard he tries he'll probably deduce everything else he does to be as unnatural. Even if he wanted to drag it out of curiosity, the attacks are still moving at a snail's pace, he could just put his hand in front and see how it interacts

But if you still argue Conquest will just stand there and let Regulus do all his thing, then this is still a stomp but the other way around

He willingly tanked Eve's attacks for a while when he could have just blitzed her instantly.

Conquest likes destroying things; it is the only outlet he has in the universe. If he is authorised to destroy 3 countries, I don't think he would just do it instantly and would instead drag it out a little more to have some fun. It really depends on how Regulus and Conquest interact, it would require them to meet first and for Conquest to see him not get injured by his attacks. He seems to entertain dialogue with his opponents a little as with Oliver and Eve, if he pisses Regulus off enough he might attack him. Depending on what Regulus attacks him with would probably be what would decide the battle in my opinion. If Regulus uses dust or dirt I think Conquest would be able to dodge it after it ripped through his skin. Then he might just start tossing him around each country for fun until he accidentally kills all of his wives if Regulus deactivates his complete invulnerability (which he usually does after the first attack from what I remember). If Regulus uses air, I don't think Conquest would be able to sense it and would get ripped apart.

 

[Tahoy49574]

He willingly tanked Eve's attacks for a while when he could have just blitzed her instantly.

.-.
No he didn't, he was just overwhelmed with all those attacks

 

[Chariot190]

Reminder that after Conquest jobbed, he acknowledged his **** up and tried not to do that anymore as he begged to Thragg to not punt him.

 

[Catbowtie]

This is the Conquest BEFORE he jobbed like he did against Mark.

 

[Chariot190]

This is the Conquest BEFORE he jobbed like he did against Mark.

Based on what? We use the most recent versions of characters according to SBA, or thinking on it, profiling as a whole. Conquest doesnt have a pre mark key, it goes up to when he died.

 

[Catbowtie]

I figured that we could augment the State of Mind and the current time they're in, no? If you know what I mean. I will just change it to the TV version of Conquest if it matters that much

 

[Chariot190]

I mean state of mind doesnt remove experience.
Also why change anything? Just do a normal match, idk why you like seemingly want him to job.

 

[Catbowtie]

I mean state of mind doesnt remove experience.
Also why change anything? Just do a normal match, idk why you like seemingly want him to job.

You should change "Day 132 of working on MGS" to be the correct number of days.

What is a normal match? I could wait for the invincible variants to come along and do Conquest v all of them

 

[Chariot190]

You should change "Day 132 of working on MGS" to be the correct number of days.

Never.

What is a normal match? I could wait for the invincible variants to come along and do Conquest v all of them

Wut

A normal match would be just throw them in a room and have them go wild, tho this dude is a bit unusual, given in SBA he'd just start with his squad right next to him, ie, instant death but you already tweaked that so the way it is should be good enough.

 

[JetJZ]

.-.
No he didn't, he was just overwhelmed with all those attacks

We literally see Conquest tank one of her attacks on purpose then instantly break her armor before she could react, he could have done that at any point in the battle but only did it when he got bored. If you are going to argue that Conquest somehow got overwhelmed by Eve then Regulus would be more than enough to overwhelm him. Conquest has shown to entertain dialogue and not instantly try to kill people who interest him (for example Oliver, and show Eve).

 

[Tahoy49574]

What is a normal match? I could wait for the invincible variants to come along and do Conquest v all of them

Aren't 90% of them featless ?

We literally see Conquest tank one of her attacks on purpose then instantly break her armor before she could react, he could have done that at any point in the battle but only did it when he got bored

Putting his hand in front of him in anticipation is a far cry from leaving himself wide open to see if he can take it (specially because he already knew how strong her constructs are), and Eve did briefly react, she just couldn't do anything because she was exhausted

 

[MrTayman616]

Bro what are peoples problem with Regulus.

Everyone's putting conditions that will cause him to lose by speed blitz lmao.

 

[JetJZ]

Putting his hand in front of him in anticipation is a far cry from leaving himself wide open to see if he can take it (specially because he already knew how strong her constructs are), and Eve did briefly react, she just couldn't do anything because she was exhausted

Okay, since we cannot agree on how the fight vs Eve went, I'll move on to a different point. Why would Conquest dodge someone throwing dust at him? He has no experience of fighting against anyone with similar abilities to Regulus from what I remember. And do you agree that if Regulus threw air at him Conquest would die?

 

[Chariot190]

Okay, since we cannot agree on how the fight vs Eve went, I'll move on to a different point. Why would Conquest dodge someone throwing dust at him?

Why wouldn't he dodge tbh, that just seems obnoxious. Like not dodge because it's a threat but dodge because either to prove it's pointless (from his pov, like I'd imagine in his head he'd think someone throwing dust at him is so weak and useless that just showing off how pointless it is would be in character), or even just because why get his clothes dirty for no reason.

Like it's dirt, it's kinda pathetic without knowing what it can do, so much that it goes from "wow that's sad, I'll play a bit" to "holy **** just give up".

 

[JetJZ]

Why wouldn't he dodge tbh, that just seems obnoxious. Like not dodge because it's a threat but dodge because either to prove it's pointless (from his pov, like I'd imagine in his head he'd think someone throwing dust at him is so weak and useless that just showing off how pointless it is would be in character), or even just because why get his clothes dirty for no reason.

Like it's dirt, it's kinda pathetic without knowing what it can do, so much that it goes from "wow that's sad, I'll play a bit" to "holy **** just give up".

To show his superiority? Personally I find someone effortlessly tanking an attack way more intimidating than dodging it. He did it a whole lot against Mark (I know that Mark has his Vilitramite blood but it still shows that Conquest prefers to tank rather than dodge attacks he doesn't find threatening). Also, since when does Conquest care about getting his clothes dirty as well . One of his favorite things to do is to have his arms drenched in blood.

Plus, dirt isn't much of a wincon for Regulus in the first place, Conquest would probably be able to dodge it as soon as it rips through his skin. He'd get messed up but he would probably be fine. I don't see Conquest running away from anyone like Regulus so I can see this going one of two ways after that. 1 Conquest starts punching and throwing him across the world for fun (assuming Regulus releases his knockback immunity) and kills all of Regulus' wives by accident, or 2 Regulus ends up using his breath attack while getting attacked and Conquest dies.

 

[AThe1412]

A normal match would be just throw them in a room and have them go wild, tho this dude is a bit unusual, given in SBA he'd just start with his squad right next to him, ie, instant death but you already tweaked that so the way it is should be good enough.

Actually, Regulus' wives wouldn't spawn right next to him if we're following SBA. They'd be somewhere in a 100 kilometers radius but definitely not near because that's how he usually positions them.

Regulus Corneas vs Kurumi Tokisaki

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Regulus_Corneas vs https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Kurumi_Tokisaki SBA

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Refer to my satellite analogy in this thread.

 

[Chariot190]

To show his superiority? Personally I find someone effortlessly tanking an attack way more intimidating than dodging it. He did it a whole lot against Mark (I know that Mark has his Vilitramite blood but it still shows that Conquest prefers to tank rather than dodge attacks he doesn't find threatening).

Yep, maybe if he actually attacked, throwing dirt tho? That's just kinda sad.

Also, since when does Conquest care about getting his clothes dirty as well . One of his favorite things to do is to have his arms drenched in blood.

He's gotta look clean for when he commits mass murder

Plus, dirt isn't much of a wincon for Regulus in the first place, Conquest would probably be able to dodge it as soon as it rips through his skin. He'd get messed up but he would probably be fine.

Exactly, and if Conquest is alerted to that, he isn't gonna **** around. This dude isn't a fight to him, he isn't strong, he can't box, he'd be looked at, as if he uses dirty tricks and as some sort of "cheater".

I don't see Conquest running away from anyone like Regulus so I can see this going one of two ways after that. 1 Conquest starts punching and throwing him across the world for fun (assuming Regulus releases his knockback immunity) and kills all of Regulus' wives by accident, or 2 Regulus ends up using his breath attack while getting attacked and Conquest dies.

Secret third option. Conquest picks up on the fact he's using some sort of special ability based on the surprisingly lethal dirt, and doesn't opt to box and is careful and opts to kill him in a unconventional way like knocking him into space or seeing if he can survive the planet being torn apart or something.

Like, this whole Conquest jobs thing only applies if this dude can actually GIVE Conquest a fight. He can't.
He's fodder, just fodder with magic hax and can't die. Conquest isn't gonna have fun with him, he'd think he's a nuisance who has to rely on "petty tricks" instead of his own strength. It's like trying to box a black widow, yeah it can kill you, but fighting it isn't exactly fun or worth your time.

Actually, Regulus' wives wouldn't spawn right next to him if we're following SBA. They'd be somewhere in a 100 kilometers radius but definitely not near because that's how he usually positions them.

Regulus Corneas vs Kurumi Tokisaki

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Regulus_Corneas vs https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Kurumi_Tokisaki SBA

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Refer to my satellite analogy in this thread.

They're not a satellite. It's a false equivalence.
We only really do that with shit that HAS to be located in a specific spot, like an immobile cannon. His squad if standard equipment would be innately treated like normal equipment that could be moved around. Would technically need prep to have them located elsewhere.

Like, using Invincible for an example. Rex's moonbase, can't leave orbit, it's stuck there, and needs to be there to even function. It's rooted in one place, so in a match, it'd just kinda be in orbit.
But Rex's drones, BFR shit, and other weapons, would be with him because they aren't forced to be there, they're treated like actual equipment. So yeah sure in actuality Robot has drones all over the planet everywhere, we wouldn't do it that in a match tho, no different here.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Never.

Wut

A normal match would be just throw them in a room and have them go wild, tho this dude is a bit

unusual, given in SBA he'd just start with his squad right next to him, ie, instant death but you already tweaked that so the way it is should be good enough.

They were actually scattered here across Japan

Tomura Shigaraki Vs Regulus Corneas (My Hero Academia Vs Re: Zero) [13-2-0]

Symbol of Fear Vs Sin Archbishop of the Witch Cult Greed Final War Arc Shigaraki will be used Attack Potency: 2.54 Exatons of TNT Durability: 2.54 Exatons of TNT Lifting Strength: Class P Speed: Upscales from 0.62c Regulus Corneas Attack Potency: Human Level Durability: Mountain Level Lifting...

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[Ebihara]

Ive seen that map too many times.

 

[Chariot190]

They were actually scattered here across Japan

Tomura Shigaraki Vs Regulus Corneas (My Hero Academia Vs Re: Zero) [13-2-0]

Symbol of Fear Vs Sin Archbishop of the Witch Cult Greed Final War Arc Shigaraki will be used Attack Potency: 2.54 Exatons of TNT Durability: 2.54 Exatons of TNT Lifting Strength: Class P Speed: Upscales from 0.62c Regulus Corneas Attack Potency: Human Level Durability: Mountain Level Lifting...

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So? I'm not talking about how they USUALLY do it in context, I'm talking in actual default wiki assumptions regarding standard equipment. They'd be with him be default.

It doesn't even matter for the match given it's already been specified, I'm just saying without specification they'd all kinda be around his ass.

 

[JetJZ]

Secret third option. Conquest picks up on the fact he's using some sort of special ability based on the surprisingly lethal dirt, and doesn't opt to box and is careful and opts to kill him in a unconventional way like knocking him into space or seeing if he can survive the planet being torn apart or something.

Why would he do that? When has Conquest ever used BFR before? Why would he assume that Regulus has zero limits on his abilities? He's never fought anyone with similar abilities to Regulus before, so I don't see a single reason as to why Conquest would ever do anything like that. Plus Regulus can just stop his momentum and come back. Even if he couldn't I don't see Conquest not following Regulus to see if it did anything. It is way more likely for Conquest to just focus on fighting Regulus, thinking that there has to be a limit to his ability such as stamina or a time limit. Conquest isn't dumb by any means but he is nowhere near smart enough to figure anything out regarding Regulus' Authority as well.

The way I see this match going is that Regulus either kills Conquest immediately with an air attack, or Regulus uses a dust/dirt attack which then starts a fight where either Regulus kills Conquest with a breath attack or Conquest kills all of his wives in the collateral of their fight. Unless someone has a good argument against this that I haven't thought of I'm voting incon.