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Top 15 Strongest Characters for Every Tier

Rikimarox2 said:
I mean, the spatial lock is the passive stuff, no? Or was that something else?

Regardless, wouldn't it be an incon, in this case? As WW also has his, well, passive soul/mind/concept/etc... shenanigans, which can interact with Daos as well. Additionally, there's the whole "Supernatural Luck" of his, that affects Type 4 Acausality, and even further advanced versions of it. Then there's the fate shenanigans which makes it so that he doesn't die, etc...

Additionally, Causality is also considered Metaphysical, iirc, according to the Metaphysical page, so the Space-Time stuff are gonna be annoying since they are 6-D in potency, even if they are concepts.

Additionally, if, for whatever reason (fate, luck, etc...) Ji Ning stops the Spatial Lock or doesn't start with it, WW kinda just, blitzes to hell and back via reaction speed, no? Furthermore, do we consider "6-D Space" shenanigans that affect Soul, to also bypass any normal 3-D/4-D resistance to the soul stuff?
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His para hax is different than his space hax yeah, the para hax is the passive one, it comes from his dao domain, which I could argue should be tacked on to all of his attacks now, given that they all carry his dao, but point stands either way.

He would have to use whatever methods he has to force something out of their nonexistence (though reading it it doesn't seem like it includes nonduality) as Ning's mind, soul and dao are all one and the same, and are nondual in nature, standing above the heavenly dao of primordial chaos, which is already nondual in nature, that luck and fate is also going to have issues considering I'm like, decently sure it gets shut down considering NIng's resistances scale from being able to suppress and (somewhat) ignore the prime essences of reality, which govern and are the source of all the daos of reality, including those of Fate and Karma, I'm also kinda surprised Ning doesn't have a resistance to Karma (well there are two types of Karma in verse) on his profile already, considering he has already dealt with the universe giving him Negative Karma and stuff. I could also argue his Aca type 4 is even more layered than it already is (With the whole Cultivatior<Celestial Immortal stuff) as World Gods are completely released from the Heavenly Daos, which in addition to being the source of all the Daos of reality, also are the source of its laws.

Yeah, he can use it to crush space, delete space, teleport shit, reverse time (though he really really won't do that, price is ******* exhorbant), and stuff of that sort, he also has other potential stuff, like Shadowless, which is ***** on several levels, mainly by being 7D stealth that turns him into living phenomena (I also noticed the key gives him the fucken mastered One World, One Sword, which, implies things that I do not want to touch on, at all), or truesoul stuff, which I don't know if Wang Wei would have, but honestly I wouldn't be surprised if he had or could resist it (tldr; it is the imprint of your existence on the sea of destiny in addition to being related to the prime essences and karma somewhat)

7D, but idk, I don't think he does, given it's just reaction speed, and Ning would literally have to stop doing literally anything for his stuff to go away. Anyways, I don't know on the matter of the soul stuff, it's strange, so it could go either way tbh.
 
Rakih_Elyan said:
Since higher physical D mean nothing for metaphysics hax beside range, Cui Heng washed 3-C HI3rd and HSR characters now.
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Rakih_Elyan said:
Those passive means nothing to Cui Heng layered bullshit and him being his future self at the same time (this mfer have greater feat of omnipresent and immeasurable speed than Honkai character will ever be).
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Rakih_Elyan said:
Omnipresent he said,

Kiana:
Immeasurable (Faster than before, can keep up with the Herrscher of Sentience,[149][150] who possessed the speed and strength of Fu Hua's prime on top of her Herrscher's abilities[150][151]) | Immeasurable (Significantly faster than before, can keep up with Kevin's top speed in his Active Honkai Reaction; AHR Kevin was able to destroy the Herrscher of Sentience faster than she could react) | Immeasurable (Comparable to Kevin's top speed in his Deliverance form) | Immeasurable (Should be faster than before in her Cocoon of Finality key)

Dudu:
Nothing, no profile.

Stop lying
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Layers bullshit still mean something up to what layers it negated

Immeasurable are not layered but based on what kind of feat that immeasurable shit is.

Walking from past to future like it was a walk is not equal to someone who can fight throughout infinite presents, endless different past and future at the same time.

Examples:

Immeasurable (Torrent's can fight in countless past and future or even endless different present. All of that considered as nothing but a moment by the Torrent's themselves, even by the standard of their own subjective time.)

Is vastly superior to this

Immeasurable (The Herrscher of the Void can project her attacks through the Imaginary Space into the real space. The Imaginary Space allows one to move through time like a spatial dimension.)
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So about Kamen Rider Kabuto's Hyper Clock up, what does it allow him to do besides going really-really fast and go back in time?
 
Ihsjihahxu said:
I think Top1 H1-A should be Character from World of darkness
Bondye , Jehovah
They're supra meta qualitative
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They're exist outside of the hierarchy Consensus and Pretty much anyone that can manipulate any of the Absolute Infinite Layers of the Tapestry has TD3/BDE2 and soo much more. Anything transcendent of the entire Tapestry hierarchy, has that as well ofc
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Beyond this, all hierarchical layers showcase the disbandment of dualities and pluralities between all purely-qualitative states heading to a grander unity infinitely and consecutively greater than itself.
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Character from wod There are definitely hax that are better than Gu chensha
 
AlphaOmegaV1 said:
  • Since Ruphas hasn't been 5-B for a while, Ace should just have the spot to himself in 5-B now. While we're at it. Got a couple nominations to throw in 5-B. Carrera behind Ace, Kusuo Saiki behind her, but ahead of Kang Han Soo since he beat Kang before and has gotten more haxxy since then.
  • On the topic of 5-B, Bill Cipher should be dropped down below Carrera, but above Saiki. The only thing that allowed him to place as highly as he did was "Smurf Dimensionality", but now that "Smurf" is only for 1-A and above, he he should drop a couple spots. Lastly nominating Mavuika to be above Bill Cipher, but below Carrera.
  • In both High 5-A & 2-C, Epic Battle should probably be dropped down. For 2-C, they should be tied with Characters from DC and The Creator. Devourer might be able to contend with the DC characters but he can't really beat Creator. In High 5-A, the should probably drop down to 10th place. Despite the plot hax, they're kind of haxless and cannot beat people like Kang, the cast of FFVI, or Wang Ling.
  • In 10-A, Yogiri should be dropped down below Professor X and Sue Storm since His 1-A rating's been gone for a while, and Marvel's magic is 1-A.
  • Pretty sure Arifureta can't interact with NEP so Characters from Under Night would be above Badd in 7-B, plus there are passives of Voids that Badd doesn't resist.
  • Isekai at Peace Characters should drop down to 5th in 5-C since Smurf Dimensionality hax is reserved for 1-A only, so I don't see them beating Anos or FFXIII now for a few reasons. They don't seem to be able to affect NEP2, the verses' hax layers got deleted on the evaluation thread, and none of the characters linked in that spot have a way to get around High-Godly Regen. They can stay above Arifureta though.
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Yuuki91 said:
How can you beat her ? A character like Acheron has 1-B level Hax. How are you gonna win against her, bro???🤔🤔🤔
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Smurf potency for metaphysic and reality hax doesn't exist for physical dimensions like 10D or 100D, it's either 1-A and above or layers.
 
ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn said:
Doesn't that depend on the type of hax?
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Yeah, it just metaphysical Hax aka Concept, Reality warping, soul hax not are smurf if you hax higher D entity just insane range/Aoe but Technically spatial hax still smurf
Agnaa said If higher dimensions mean your hax actually is smurt in the verse, then is its
 
Voidnether said:
Nah mavuika is capable of nuking the entire imaginary tree
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What's her shtick, really? I'm seeing type 1 concept and info manip, which is cool and all, but like, what stops passive soul (type 3 concept) + mind crush and stuff? Or him just... reducing her to atoms, or doing a plethora of other mind/soul shenanigans, or activating his actual supernatural luck, or powernulling her with just a glance, or doing danmaku with hurricanes and stuff, that are like, what, large af in terms of numbers, with each one being thousands of kilometers in size, etc...?

Like, concepts and stuff are all cool and all, but with the fate stuff that he has that prevents him from permanently dying, his reaction speed, his passives, etc... I don't really think she has a chance to even activate it?

Edit: As for Kusuo Saiki, it was like already agreed upon they incon before, and that was before WW got his passives, and ludicrously faster reaction speed, so I honestly think he can easily win now against him.
 
Rikimarox2 said:
What's her shtick, really? I'm seeing type 1 concept and info manip, which is cool and all, but like, what stops passive soul (type 3 concept) + mind crush and stuff? Or him just... reducing her to atoms, or doing a plethora of other mind/soul shenanigans, or activating his actual supernatural luck, or powernulling her with just a glance, or doing danmaku with hurricanes and stuff, that are like, what, large af in terms of numbers, with each one being thousands of kilometers in size, etc...?

Like, concepts and stuff are all cool and all, but with the fate stuff that he has that prevents him from permanently dying, his reaction speed, his passives, etc... I don't really think she has a chance to even activate it?

Edit: As for Kusuo Saiki, it was like already agreed upon they incon before, and that was before WW got his passives, and ludicrously faster reaction speed, so I honestly think he can easily win now against him.
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Because it's genshin
(Lowkey what do you expect Genshin to do lol, most of the haxxed stuff there isn't even combat applicable, it's mid) Like yeah sure if it's HSR, but seriously genshin man? 💔
 
MichaelCalistro said:
https://vsbattles.com/threads/kenshiro-vs-mori-redux-o-0-0-0.179815/

I am pretty sure that Kenshiro deserve to be the strongest High 6-A character if not one of the top 15 strongest High 6-A character because he keeps on embarrassing higher tier characters beyond his paygrade and this fight will prove it unless you people can say otherwise! So in the name of the Lord, let my comment pass!
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Neither of these characters are even listed for High 6-A. You've been asked to stop using this thread to promote your matches before.
 
EL_xWatcher1234x said:
Tier 8-B:
What can Lobotomy Co. do to Kousuke or his broken stealth ?
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I don't think he has the feats to resist passive Abno bullshit, as they upscale from the Well of Humanity, which collapses the boundary of your ego, dumps infinite information into your head, and exposes you to the collective unconscious, in addition to being Immortal beyond his ability to kill, regarding the Abnos in specific, DRV is living phenomena which I don't see the NPI for, Yin does BLACK damage around itslef, which bypasses physical and mental resistances, along with passive corrosion and chaos stuff

There are potentially others I could bring up like Binah who has type 8 immo on someone Kousuke isn't reaching, but I don't think I need to
 
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