Top 15 Strongest Characters for Every Tier

[Eseseso]

Meh, is not like gonna affect my favorites character (basically actual Tier 1 with avatars/Maniphestations capable to channeling Higher/qualitative energy)

Or mine, since 1-A Marvel hax goes brr.

(Though Sonic and God of War do get hit which is sad)

 

[Voidnether]

Yeah, pretty much anything that isn't 1-A abstract hax is kinda just... range? Aside from the physical stuff. In other words, soul/mind/concept stuff are just not smurf, unless they are 1-A.

So, in terms of anything that isn't 1-A, Castlevania is kinda nuts due to layers, Destiny too, Blazblue as well via infinite layers, and probably some other Xianxia that has quintillion layers or some shit.

All because I asked, that is so washed
I do remember the main requirement for layering is when their abilities is able to bypass their opponent's resistance inverse: How the hell would quintillion layers even work? Heck, I don't even know about the infinite layers one.
Like, do you have to do that thing like a quintillion times where your opponent apparently resist it, and then you bypass it again.. Bring back the dimensional scaling bro

 

[PedjaTarzan]

all this to just lose to a strong punch

 

[helello100]

All because I asked, that is so washed
I do remember the main requirement for layering is when their abilities is able to bypass their opponent's resistance inverse: How the hell would quintillion layers even work? Heck, I don't even know about the infinite layers one.
Like, do you have to do that thing like a quintillion times where your opponent apparently resist it, and then you bypass it again.. Bring back the dimensional scaling bro

Its really is gonna be Chinamen all over...

 

[Rikimarox2]

All because I asked, that is so washed
I do remember the main requirement for layering is when their abilities is able to bypass their opponent's resistance inverse: How the hell would quintillion layers even work? Heck, I don't even know about the infinite layers one.
Like, do you have to do that thing like a quintillion times where your opponent apparently resist it, and then you bypass it again.. Bring back the dimensional scaling bro

It's like the whole cultivation levels of stuff, where being a level higher means you bypass the resistances of the lower realm. Then you have like a bajillion realms or realms where the difference is hundreds of realms, etc...

Yeah, Chinamen are weird, but on top

 

[FoxySonicMaster108]

Thank God for Homestuck being 1-A

 

[Voidnether]

It's like the whole cultivation levels of stuff, where being a level higher means you bypass the resistances of the lower realm. Then you have like a bajillion realms or realms where the difference is hundreds of realms, etc...

Yeah, Chinamen are weird, but on top

 

[sukuna171]

Yeah, pretty much anything that isn't 1-A abstract hax is kinda just... range? Aside from the physical stuff. In other words, soul/mind/concept stuff are just not smurf, unless they are 1-A.

So, in terms of anything that isn't 1-A, Castlevania is kinda nuts due to layers, Destiny too, Blazblue as well via infinite layers, and probably some other Xianxia that has quintillion layers or some shit.

My king Orxy is majestic as always.

Spoiler

Simulate me, wretch. Calculate the permutations of my divinity. Compute the death in the shape of my throne. Render my shadow on the stone of ten thousand graveyard worlds! It will never be enough. I hold the Tablets of Ruin. I speak to the Deep. Not with a galaxy of thinking matter could you encompass me. Behold

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

My king Orxy is majestic as always.

Spoiler

Simulate me, wretch. Calculate the permutations of my divinity. Compute the death in the shape of my throne. Render my shadow on the stone of ten thousand graveyard worlds! It will never be enough. I hold the Tablets of Ruin. I speak to the Deep. Not with a galaxy of thinking matter could you encompass me. Behold

Technically Oryx got his powers (and his philosophy) from the winnower directly so his hax may actually be smurfy in nature

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

Technically Oryx got his powers (and his philosophy) from the winnower directly so his hax may actually be smurfy in nature

I previously asked Whynaut about this. He said it'd be at most 1-A communion with the Winnower since it's confirmed they did speak but it wouldn't be any 1-A hax because even those who haven't spoken to the Winnower directly can take so it's just an application of the darkness (which iirc isn't 1-A in the context of it or the light being used in verse), not something from the Winnower directly.

 

[StrymULTRA]

For 10-A Shinpei Ajiro should be removed as he's just 10-B.

A replacement would be Monika as she's recently being updated to 10-A and she obviously stomps Tooru if you just look at both profiles.

 

[Rikimarox2]

Alright since Higher-D shtick is basically nonexistent anymore for esoteric stuff, I'll just bump this;

Alrighty so, Wang Wei now has 4-D Potency (likely rating, not concrete) from Suprenatural Realm and above, with quite a bit of layers (10~ish, just need to update the blog to showcase it), with whole Soul (Type 3)/Mind/Body/etc... passive aura, and being resistant to Type 2 Concept/Info to hell and back.

Does dante have anything else other than 4-D Soul shenanigans aura (which should be resisted), and can he defend against the passives, or type 1 fate stuff that is above history and can affect type 4 peeps, or type 2 concept/info destruction, etc...?

As for 3-C, I really don't see what Cai or Gatchen can do to Wang Wei? The latter doesn't really have anything that is threatening to Wang Wei that he doesn't resist, while the latter would be destroyed to hell and back before they can even do anything due to Wang Wei's much faster reaction speed.

Similar case for 3-A, what can D do against Wang Wei, as the latter resists concept/info stuff to hell and back, and has ND3 and NEP2, and can interact with those, so like. Idk about Ji Ning honestly since it has been forever since I read it, but did he get Higher-D stuff accepted, and if so, what D?

For 3-B, what exactly is Sephiroth's Shenanigans? I remember asking before, but I just stopped after learning that his stuff is 4-D, but that, doesn't really matter much now.

As for 3-A, Ning used to nuke via 6-D shenanigans, but now that's like, null? So, excluding the 6-D shenanigans, what else is there?

For 2-C, what are Kamen Rider's stuff? Any insta-plot stuff, or 1-A smurf stuff, etc...?

All of the above are for Wang Wei. Trying to start the Chinamen supremacy early.

 

[Arkenis]

Does this mean Kishin Asura has a spot in 2-C?

 

[Robo432343]

For 2-C, what are Kamen Rider's stuff? Any insta-plot stuff, or 1-A smurf stuff, etc...?

yeah they have 1-A stuff

Ridewatch

Ridewatches are stopwatch-shaped devices primarily used in the 29th season of Kamen Rider, Kamen Rider Zi-O. Ridewatches contain the power to turn one into a Kamen Rider after being inserted into a Ziku-Driver. Ridewatches can also contain the history of past Kamen Riders, allowing one to tap...

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[Rikimarox2]

yeah they have 1-A stuff

Ridewatch

Ridewatches are stopwatch-shaped devices primarily used in the 29th season of Kamen Rider, Kamen Rider Zi-O. Ridewatches contain the power to turn one into a Kamen Rider after being inserted into a Ziku-Driver. Ridewatches can also contain the history of past Kamen Riders, allowing one to tap...

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Is it like passive or...? And are all of their stuff 1-A? Because the 4 people/verses above Rider, from what I can recall, do not have any 1-A stuff.

 

[Deonment]

As for 3-A, Ning used to nuke via 6-D shenanigans, but now that's like, null? So, excluding the 6-D shenanigans, what else is there?

Ning still does Nuke using 6D (well 7D since he has Omega Daos in this key and those are 7D) shenanigans, it just isn't with concept/soul/mind stuff, but instead 6D Space, Time, Causality, etc hax since he still uses the daos for stuff like that, or hell, his "Space Lock" would be even more potent now wouldn't it(and also, my bad, but I remember now that he does just have 7D resists on his level to nigh everything)

So Wei just kinda get slapped by the "bigger smurf than you" stick

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

4. Characters from Honkai (Star Rail and Impact)

5. Gatchan

6. Cui Heng

Since higher physical D mean nothing for metaphysics hax beside range, Cui Heng washed 3-C HI3rd and HSR characters now.

 

[Livinmeme]

Ergen is currently 1 layer above baseline

To clarify, Ergen verse should have like 10 layers into baseline, or something equally as absurd (the main supporter even stated that high 1-A is possible, even if the evidence he presented was iffy to say the least), they are just really really outdated.

 

[Livinmeme]

I think Top1 H1-A should be Character from World of darkness
Bondye , Jehovah
They're supra meta qualitative

Top tier High 1-A, richard, and gu chensha should just duke it out to see who gets the most wank.

 

[Wesker018]

why there are no high 1-A+ characters? It's just an extension of high 1-A, I don't think it can be considered a separate tier.

 

[Deonment]

To clarify, Ergen verse should have like 10 layers into baseline, or something equally as absurd (the main supporter even stated that high 1-A is possible, even if the evidence he presented was iffy to say the least), they are just really really outdated.

That isn't changing anything I said there, considering how the profiles only include up to 5th step for Meng and Bai, who are only one layer into 1-A, and we haven't included anything from AWWP or BTT, which would include the stuff above 5th step, I am aware of both, but they aren't relevant to the list at this point in time

 

[Gasper]

Would Xeelee make it into top 10 1-A?

 

[Orioreeem]

Ning still does Nuke using 6D (well 7D since he has Omega Daos in this key and those are 7D) shenanigans, it just isn't with concept/soul/mind stuff, but instead 6D Space, Time, Causality, etc hax since he still uses the daos for stuff like that, or hell, his "Space Lock" would be even more potent now wouldn't it(and also, my bad, but I remember now that he does just have 7D resists on his level to nigh everything)

So Wei just kinda get slapped by the "bigger smurf than you" stick

Causality is still metapysical and if he is using dao for all of it then isn't it all 3d now

 

[Voidnether]

Since higher physical D mean nothing for metaphysics hax beside range, Cui Heng washed 3-C HI3rd and HSR characters now.

He really thought HI3rd & HSR characters are just based on hax potency when it's the passive honkai & imaginary energy that comes out before their actual hax is even released (Edge of Taixuan's Eminence)

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

He really thought HI3rd & HSR characters are just based on hax potency when it's the passive honkai & imaginary energy that comes out before their actual hax is even released (Edge of Taixuan's Eminence)

Those passive means nothing to Cui Heng layered bullshit and him being his future self at the same time (this mfer have greater feat of omnipresent and immeasurable speed than Honkai character will ever be).

 

[PedjaTarzan]

both die to strong punch

 

[Voidnether]

Those passive means nothing to Cui Heng layered bullshit and him being his future self at the same time (this mfer have greater feat of omnipresent and immeasurable speed than Honkai character will ever be).

Omnipresent is a common feat actually (Kiana & Durandal), and Immeasurable there aren't layered, heck you'd be surprised by how much blitzing there is on Honkai as a whole but that wouldn't make it layered except if it's like the one outlined by DDM and pretty sure layered bs don't mean anything against Resistance Negation

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

Omnipresent is a common feat actually (Kiana & Durandal), and Immeasurable there aren't layered, heck you'd be surprised by how much blitzing there is on Honkai as a whole but that wouldn't make it layered except if it's like the one outlined by DDM and pretty sure layered bs don't mean anything against Resistance Negation

Omnipresent he said,

Kiana:
Immeasurable (Faster than before, can keep up with the Herrscher of Sentience,[149][150] who possessed the speed and strength of Fu Hua's prime on top of her Herrscher's abilities[150][151]) | Immeasurable (Significantly faster than before, can keep up with Kevin's top speed in his Active Honkai Reaction; AHR Kevin was able to destroy the Herrscher of Sentience faster than she could react) | Immeasurable (Comparable to Kevin's top speed in his Deliverance form) | Immeasurable (Should be faster than before in her Cocoon of Finality key)

Dudu:
Nothing, no profile.

Stop lying

Layers bullshit still mean something up to what layers it negated

Immeasurable are not layered but based on what kind of feat that immeasurable shit is.

Walking from past to future like it was a walk is not equal to someone who can fight throughout infinite presents, endless different past and future at the same time.

Examples:

Immeasurable (Torrent's can fight in countless past and future or even endless different present. All of that considered as nothing but a moment by the Torrent's themselves, even by the standard of their own subjective time.)

Is vastly superior to this

Immeasurable (The Herrscher of the Void can project her attacks through the Imaginary Space into the real space. The Imaginary Space allows one to move through time like a spatial dimension.)

 

[PedjaTarzan]

if you actually want immeasurable
speed feat just check linghsa profile

 

[sukuna171]

Shouldn't Oryx have immeasurable speed due to being far stronger than Atheon?

Spoiler

to speak of Atheon is to accept certain limitations. We are ill-equipped to understand an entity that defies simple causality. Let us accept these limitations and proceed.

Atheon waits in the Vault of Glass. Just as Atheon sidesteps 'past' and 'future', it is impossible to say whether Atheon created the Vault or the Vault created Atheon. Causal pathways converge on Atheon from every axis in the space-time bulk.

 

[Rikimarox2]

Ning still does Nuke using 6D (well 7D since he has Omega Daos in this key and those are 7D) shenanigans, it just isn't with concept/soul/mind stuff, but instead 6D Space, Time, Causality, etc hax since he still uses the daos for stuff like that, or hell, his "Space Lock" would be even more potent now wouldn't it(and also, my bad, but I remember now that he does just have 7D resists on his level to nigh everything)

So Wei just kinda get slapped by the "bigger smurf than you" stick

I mean, the spatial lock is the passive stuff, no? Or was that something else?

Regardless, wouldn't it be an incon, in this case? As WW also has his, well, passive soul/mind/concept/etc... shenanigans, which can interact with Daos as well. Additionally, there's the whole "Supernatural Luck" of his, that affects Type 4 Acausality, and even further advanced versions of it. Then there's the fate shenanigans which makes it so that he doesn't die, etc...

Additionally, Causality is also considered Metaphysical, iirc, according to the Metaphysical page, so the Space-Time stuff are gonna be annoying since they are 6-D in potency, even if they are concepts.

Additionally, if, for whatever reason (fate, luck, etc...) Ji Ning stops the Spatial Lock or doesn't start with it, WW kinda just, blitzes to hell and back via reaction speed, no? Furthermore, do we consider "6-D Space" shenanigans that affect Soul, to also bypass any normal 3-D/4-D resistance to the soul stuff?

 

[AlphaOmegaV1]

• Since Ruphas hasn't been 5-B for a while, Ace should just have the spot to himself in 5-B now. While we're at it. Got a couple nominations to throw in 5-B. Carrera behind Ace, Kusuo Saiki behind her, but ahead of Kang Han Soo since he beat Kang before and has gotten more haxxy since then.
• On the topic of 5-B, Bill Cipher should be dropped down below Carrera, but above Saiki. The only thing that allowed him to place as highly as he did was "Smurf Dimensionality", but now that "Smurf" is only for 1-A and above, he he should drop a couple spots. Lastly nominating Mavuika to be above Bill Cipher, but below Carrera.
• In both High 5-A & 2-C, Epic Battle should probably be dropped down. For 2-C, they should be tied with Characters from DC and The Creator. Devourer might be able to contend with the DC characters but he can't really beat Creator. In High 5-A, the should probably drop down to 10th place. Despite the plot hax, they're kind of haxless and cannot beat people like Kang, the cast of FFVI, or Wang Ling.
• In 10-A, Yogiri should be dropped down below Professor X and Sue Storm since His 1-A rating's been gone for a while, and Marvel's magic is 1-A.
• Pretty sure Arifureta can't interact with NEP so Characters from Under Night would be above Badd in 7-B, plus there are passives of Voids that Badd doesn't resist.
• Isekai at Peace Characters should drop down to 5th in 5-C since Smurf Dimensionality hax is reserved for 1-A only, so I don't see them beating Anos or FFXIII now for a few reasons. They don't seem to be able to affect NEP2, the verses' hax layers got deleted on the evaluation thread, and none of the characters linked in that spot have a way to get around High-Godly Regen. They can stay above Arifureta though.

 

[Gasper]

What can Kang Han Soo do against Xeelee's time travel, space-time manipulation, Multi-Galaxy matter manipulation on Macro-Quantum level and and gravity manipulation that can rip apart stars?

 

[Rikimarox2]

Isn't Kang Han Soo shtick is that if he dies, the universe just disappears?

 

[Gasper]

Isn't Kang Han Soo shtick is that if he dies, the universe just disappears?

Hmmmm, i didn't know that.
Although Xeelee can just travel to a diffrent universe if they want too, unless i'm missing something for Kang Han Soo?

 

[Rikimarox2]

I'm purely going off of the profile, btw, but like, by the time they kill Kang, the universe should cease. I don't know if Xeelee dudes would immediately travel to another universe the moment they kill Kang.

Tho idk the speed of the destruction, so eh.

 

[Gasper]

I'm purely going off of the profile, btw, but like, by the time they kill Kang, the universe should cease. I don't know if Xeelee dudes would immediately travel to another universe the moment they kill Kang.

Tho idk the speed of the destruction, so eh.

Xeelee can travel 3/4 the speed of light, and potentialy have light speed reaction time and can use time travel too, so if Kang Han Soo's destruction takes some time Xeelee should be fine.

 

[Gasper]

Also, does his destruction of the universe include it's space-time aswell?

 

[Rikimarox2]

Not sure how that can help in an equal-speed vsmatch, ngl, aside from reaction speed.

Also, does his destruction of the universe include it's space-time aswell?

It's rated as Low 2-C, so I'd assume so, yes.

Because right below Kang directly is Wang Wei, who just... has those things, passively. And has reaction speed far above his normal speed, and has Fate Manipulation that prevents him from dying, as well as Luck shenanigans. If you want to take Kang's spot, you kinda need to defeat him.

Edit: nevermind, got confused for a moment there.

 

[Gasper]

Well, if anyone is knowledgeable about Kang Han Soo your input would be appreciated.