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Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 20

Having conquered dimensions is only part of it. We have to go by the sentences before and after the given statement for the context, and when we look at those, we can only infer that it is destroyed.

Talent hmm. again what you said doesn’t make sense. Talent could mean many things. Based on the context, I understood that talent here means potential strength he could obtain. Zalario had the strength to “destroy dimensions” so he thiught this person also had the potential strength to do that or surpass zalario himself. So they made that’s statement. It clearly makes sense to speak about one’s talent then. So I don’t know where you got anything you said from.
Sure your arguments with no scans and proof are better than mine. Keep thinking like that.
Based on this thread by Reiner, it has been accepted to use Slime Reader.
Due to the recurring issue of misleading or dishonest machine-translated (edited-MTL) content within this verse (both WN and LN), particularly when used to support major arguments or upgrades, the use of human-edited MTLs is strictly prohibited unless they are verified by one of the official Translation Helpers (TLs) or a user with proven fluency in Japanese. However, exceptions may be made for human-edited MTLs originating from well-regarded and trusted sources that show no signs of intentional misrepresentation or manipulation, such as Slimereader. This is to ensure accuracy, consistency, and prevent misinterpretation or manipulation of source material. Any future CRTs or profile changes that use unverified human-edited MTLs will be considered invalid and subject to reversal.
Wiki translators Translation comes first then whatever MTL edited by humans you people uses.
I checked the thread for your “translator scan”. He himself said it was weak work. You asked him does it work for small world. So he then added yea, weak/fragile world. Small world. So I’m convinced that the scan had been thoroughly checked and it is just weak world, but without context the translator assumed it worlds for small world as well.
He has confirmed the translation 3 times. Yet he was saying it's uses both Kanji weak and small world.
I’ll ask something in return. Have these threads not been checked. I check this thread, I checked those scans, I found at least 2 scans that were manipulated to seem to support what you said. I’m not accusing or something, but have they been checked.
Go report it in the RVT or send a private message to the staff if anything in the scans is actually manipulated, instead of just making false accusations.

Since you want to make accusations about translations this is my last reply to you. You are free to report the translations in RVT.
 
Sure your arguments with no scans and proof are better than mine. Keep thinking like that.
My imgur is not working right now so i'll just quote the entire paragraph.

"Charys was a majin of great strength. Even to Zalario, who had destroyed many dimensions,
Charys belonged to an extremely rare group of excellent talents. Treyni, who harbored the spirit
king, was also very talented, but not as much as Charys. The high-powered magic she excelled at
was threatening, but because it didn’t have much effect on Zalario, it was not much of a problem.
Charys was similar. He deftly manipulated his energy, converging heat energy and shooting out
high-powered heat rays. However, this could be nullified by Zalario’s prided ‘Distortion Field.’
What Zalario really needed to be wary of was his accurate and calm judgment."

Talented no matter what way you look at it is potential strength, or just potential. Compared to zalario. The sentences before are related to veldora so i didn't quote that. There is no mention of conquering in this paragraph at all. Unless it is mentioned that he killed only the "people" of the worlds, destroyed the civilization or something, the context can be taken as Destroyed dimensions.
Wiki translators Translation comes first then whatever MTL edited by humans you people uses.
The exception stated right below was Slime reader.
He has confirmed the translation 3 times. Yet he was saying it's uses both Kanji weak and small world.
I see. It wasn't mentioned in the thread so i didn't know. Thanks for the confirmation. I even checked the kanji just to make sure and yes, it is correct. Weak and small. Small can be taken as anything if there is a lower and upper limit. The lower limit mentioned here is larger than universes.
"The universe is vast, but not as vast as the other worlds."

So i agree about the small and weak worlds part, but i don't agree that those said "small worlds" can be smaller than the lower than the lower limit of their size.
Go report it in the RVT or send a private message to the staff if anything in the scans is actually manipulated, instead of just making false accusations.

Since you want to make accusations about translations this is my last reply to you. You are free to report the translations in RVT.
Sorry, it wasn't an accusation. Just felt like the context has been manipulated. But since i revised the messages you sent, i understood my mistake.

But the Zalario destroying dimensions part. Has there been any confirmation about it? Since in the thread you put the translator said it could mean overthrown based on the context, but it clearly was mentioned that the translator said he "destroyed dimensions".
 
4-C is very questionable
"It eats up everything that is noticeable, and eventually grows to the point of swallowing even the stars --- such a terrifying monster" - Google Translate
There are many things wrong in the profiles, but this isn't one of them.
It becomes 4-C, or is at least predicted to be, because Gluttony will just keep on getting bigger until it can eat celestial bodies.

The thing is, though, is that it happens over time. We don't know how long it would take for certain. It could be very fast or very slow. There's been arguments made for both years ago that I forgot already.
 
@EldemadeDityjon so is there no reply to what i said? I mean i was on a break so i didn't read the entire thread (11 pages), so it's my fault for not knowing that the kanji literally meant small and weak. I admit my mistake for that, but it still doesn't change my point.

What is small? It needs a lower and an upper limit to prove that something is small w.r.t. to something. The lower limit given was that the other worlds were "vaster" than a universe. So even if we take small size, it is bare minimum the size of a universe. I mean you don't need to reply if you want to. I accept my mistake on that part. Sorry, but i don't accuse without reason, and if i do, i accept the mistake.
 
Tell me if there are any more checked LN translations

 


thanks! 😁
 
I think God is the only 2-A, Veldanava should be around 2-B or high end 2-C
If i have dealt with everything else wrong with the verse, I'll look at God, He's a forgotten character, his tier needs an upgrade too, but maybe i will wait for the series to end first
Rimuru will surpass peak Veldanava by EoS (coping)
And this Time in volume 22/21 it was shown that rimuru can output his energy that is stored all at once and he has enough to create 10-90k worlds
 
True Dragon Veldanava should only be Low 2-C since there is no proof that he created all the worlds at once. Basically Low 2-C, 2-A with Laws of World.

The All-encompassing One will probably be the BDE Type 2/1-A.

I think if we focus solely on the BDE Type 2/1-A the argument is pretty simple. It's either sufficient or it's not. Personally I've been looking for an excuse to separate the profiles of the All-One and Veldanava since Volume 22.
But before that, Ivarage remembered. When it gained emotions, intelligence rapidly developed alongside them. With them, it understood it'd been discarded. It was lonely. It was frustrated. That was unforgivable. There was once a time where it was the "All-Encompassing One". It was content. Ivarage, who had no intelligence, sensitivity or even emotions, never felt anxious, dissatisfied nor bored. And yet, half of its body was missing. The dreamlike omnipotence has vanished, and it has been exposed to the formerly-invisible reality. Still, Ivarage had no intelligence, and so could not feel dissatisfied, but... A sudden recurring sense of loss - loneliness - couldn't be dispelled no matter what it did. With the emotion called "hatred", Ivarage's sensitivity bloomed. As an incarnation of malice possessing a resolute will, Ivarage decided to flaunt its existence to the whole world.

SeijiSetto's Translation
A simple example being a realm that is stated to lack space, time and physicality entirely, but is nonetheless shown as being "vaster" than physical reality in some way. Common imagery of this includes the universe as a small object encompassed in a wider backdrop.

he has enough to create 10-90k worlds
Tens of thousands times is basically at least 20,000.
 
Why 2-A with laws of the world? He as a true dragon created them.
The current 2-A rating is based on the fact that the World Laws branched the world to prevent conflicts, so that even Ultimate Skill users who are independent of the World Laws cannot be in the same timeline as their alternate versions.

The World Laws are based on the Great Spirits, and Veldanava seems to have created the World Laws using the Great Spirits, just as he created the Seraphims from the Great Spirit of Light. So there is no reason for 2-A.
 
The current 2-A rating is based on the fact that the World Laws branched the world to prevent conflicts, so that even Ultimate Skill users who are independent of the World Laws cannot be in the same timeline as their alternate versions.

The World Laws are based on the Great Spirits, and Veldanava seems to have created the World Laws using the Great Spirits, just as he created the Seraphims from the Great Spirit of Light. So there is no reason for 2-A.
When was it said he created it from the great spirits? Also if someone could destroy the world laws would that be 2-A?
 
True Dragon Veldanava should only be Low 2-C since there is no proof that he created all the worlds at once. Basically Low 2-C, 2-A with Laws of World.
Wouldn't he be 2C via creating dimensions, including the dimendions that contain L2C worlds?
 
Wouldn't he be 2C via creating dimensions, including the dimendions that contain L2C worlds?
It is currently accepted that every world isn't Low 2-C by default, so no. Also, worlds can be created one by one (Turn Null seems to work this way anyway) and then covered by dimension. As I have said many times, creating a dimension does not mean anything, what is important is whether there is a planet, sun, stars or universes in the dimension.
 
By the way, please don't anyone ever list Disintegration as a striking strength again. I've gotten Ant's approval to remove this obvious nonsense and will make necessary edits soon.
 
Not tryna be. Mb. He just genuinely couldn’t understand something directly stated
Couldn't have just talked it over a tiny bit more??

I may not entirely have context as to what's be talked about but like DAMN, don't gotta fracture the effort being put forward

Edit: Agreeing to Disagree is a choice for free
 
I kinda wanna make a vs thread that's not Rimuru since it tends to just be him, but I'll just wait until the profiles are updated more. Maybe Yuuki or Hinata
 
I kinda wanna make a vs thread that's not Rimuru since it tends to just be him, but I'll just wait until the profiles are updated more. Maybe Yuuki or Hinata
I need that good Diablo profile so I can make a match between both him and Shin Reglia..

(they're both extremely -and hilariously- devoted to getting jobs done for their lords)
 
I need that good Diablo profile so I can make a match between both him and Shin Reglia..

(they're both extremely -and hilariously- devoted to getting jobs done for their lords)
I just looked up who that is

On one hand, seems like it'd be debatable especially once Diablo's profile gets updated with volumes 21 and 22 stuff

On the other
Tensura vs Maou Gakuin
Hmmmmm
I'm kinda burned out on that pairing personally cause of the Rimuru vs Anos debates lol. At least this would be smth less discussed
 
I'm kinda burned out on that pairing personally cause of the Rimuru vs Anos debates lol. At least this would be smth less discussed
Unfortunately my head is too filled with Tensura x MG crossover thoughts so I cannot meet you on that burned out feeling specifically but I do understand it-.

In all honesty they'd probably have the funniest dialogue with one another
 
The All-encompassing One will probably be the BDE Type 2/1-A.

I think if we focus solely on the BDE Type 2/1-A the argument is pretty simple. It's either sufficient or it's not. Personally I've been looking for an excuse to separate the profiles of the All-One and Veldanava since Volume 22.
When you gonna crt, after vol 23 is released?
 
I need that good Diablo profile so I can make a match between both him and Shin Reglia..

(they're both extremely -and hilariously- devoted to getting jobs done for their lords)
When I started watching Mao Gakuin's anime, when I first saw Shin in Anos' past, I thought "I guess this guy is Diablo of this anime." But other than that, their personalities are so different.
 
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