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Devil May Cry Discussion Thread

It's actually said that Dante has been with women in the DMC3 manga, it just doesn't go anywhere.

Also, I've seen lots of combat behaviour inspired by DMC. RWBY (AKA derivation the series) used multiple moves from DMC for example: Oscar/Ozpin uses Dante's Million Stab, Blake is shown using Dante's Stinger, Qrow uses a sword very similar to Nero's, that transforms into a scythe like the Sparda does, and Adam is basically a direct knock-off of Vergil.
Additionally, Raven herself is almost certainly inspired by him. She’s a woman who valued power and her evil heritage (banditry) over her own family, abandoning her daughter, wielding a Katana that with the power of her Soul cuts space-time to create portals. And in her desire for power, she found and stole one from legend, a power that came from what could be argued to be a father figure.

While it’s not the exact same precession of events, it’s very clearly taking Vergil’s relevant threads and putting a spin on them. Especially when you then compare her to her younger twin brother, Qrow, who is a lot like Dante in his self-perception, humor, etc. And as noted, Qrow’s weapon is basically the DSS, which is what Dante wielded at the end of DMC1.
 
He banged a big tiddy redhead in the novels
Which novel? DMC1?
Additionally, Raven herself is almost certainly inspired by him. She’s a woman who valued power and her evil heritage (banditry) over her own family, abandoning her daughter, wielding a Katana that with the power of her Soul cuts space-time to create portals. And in her desire for power, she found and stole one from legend, a power that came from what could be argued to be a father figure.

While it’s not the exact same precession of events, it’s very clearly taking Vergil’s relevant threads and putting a spin on them. Especially when you then compare her to her younger twin brother, Qrow, who is a lot like Dante in his self-perception, humor, etc. And as noted, Qrow’s weapon is basically the DSS, which is what Dante wielded at the end of DMC1.
True, maybe Raven and Adam should do a fusion dance and see if we get even more of a Vergil knock-off.

As for Qrow though, his role in the story and his level of usefulness is somewhere between Vol 1 Dante and Netflix Dante. Keeping in mind Netflix Dante is about as competent as Dan Hibiki or Johnny English, so Qrow is better than that for sure.
 
And Ragna and Jin were definitely inspired by Dante and Vergil
Only in color palettes at best, they’re more inspired by Sol and Ky when BlazBlue was literally Arcsys trying to make another Guilty Gear game back then.
 
Bro you did not just compare Netflix Dante to Dan Hibiki of all people Lol 😂 Have a little mercy on Netflix Dante 🙏
He's only useful against humans and enemies he is far above. Important demons squash him, Lady squashes him, Lady stomps the demons that stomp him, and so on. Likening him to Johnny English and Dan Hibiki seem like a fair comparison to me. Certainly not comparable to the real Dante.
 
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He's only useful against humans he is far above. Demons squash him, Lady squashes him, Lady stomps the demons that stomp him, and so on. Likening him to Johnny English and Dan Hibiki seem like a fair comparison to me. Certainly not comparable to the real Dante.
I suppose Netflix Dante being Johnny English to real Dante being James Bond might be a fair comparison.
 
I suppose Netflix Dante being Johnny English to real Dante being James Bond might be a fair comparison.
Maybe, although at least Johnny actually saves the day instead of just going down over and over again like a worthless loser and being turned into a loser flavoured popsicle.
 
He's only useful against humans he is far above. Demons squash him
so you ignore he killed fodder demons before? Or are those not demons according to you
Lady squashes him
no she didnt, all time they got in physical combat, she was outmatched
Lady stomps the demons that stomp him
No she doesnt, you people really cant separate hate from fact? What demon she stomped that stomped Dante? Cavalier was having her on the run and the excuse of hallucination isnt a good argument, she still avoided a 1v1 fight, unlike Dante, the twins she killed one via anti demon bullets while off guard and the serpent lady was as well giving her trouble, meanwhile Dante put maneuvers on her in the chase scene
and so on. Likening him to Johnny English and Dan Hibiki seem like a fair comparison to me
Dan Hibiki is a joke character, meant to parody characters that were counted as rip offs to Ryu and Ken, with no talent, Netflix Dante is nowhere near Dan level
Certainly not comparable to the real Dante.
The fact yall expected it to be 100% to the games when more signs pointed otherwise before release shows you cant judge as its own thing
 
so you ignore he killed fodder demons before? Or are those not demons according to you
Fodder demon, humans, distinction without much difference. He's only useful against fodder.
no she didnt, all time they got in physical combat, she was outmatched
Same outcome every time, a loser getting humiliated.
No she doesnt, you people really cant separate hate from fact? What demon she stomped that stomped Dante?
Am I not allowed to dislike a disrespectful adaptation?

Anyway, she kills in one hit demons that beat him, and he's pretty much useless throughout. The script degrades him on purpose.
Dan Hibiki is a joke character, meant to parody characters that were counted as rip offs to Ryu and Ken, with no talent, Netflix Dante is nowhere near Dan level
He pretty much is. He fails at pretty much everything he attempts.
The fact yall expected it to be 100% to the games when more signs pointed otherwise before release shows you cant judge as its own thing
I'm allowed to dislike something, and I haven't said anything against the people who like the show. You're the one attacking a person and a group of people, I'm just criticizing a show.

And if we're supposed to judge it "as its own thing" with no regard to the original then it should be an entirely new brand. You adapt an existing IP you're inevitably going to be compared to it, and it's unreasonable to tell people not to compare them.
 
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Fodder demon, humans, distinction without much difference. He's only useful against fodder.
You act like in the games there werent fodder demons for you to kill around till you get to bosses, nice how you ignore btw he faced non fodder demons too and did better them any human, including lady
Same outcome every time, a loser getting humiliated.
Using tricks and gadgets to win it isnt in any way humiliation, are the superhumans from batman rogue gallery seen pathetic that batman needs tools and plans to win....
Am I not allowed to dislike a disrespectful adaptation?
Disliking from you is hating to extreme, there is a difference to say why something is bad unlike what you do
Anyway, she kills in one hit demons that beat him, and he's pretty much useless throughout. The script degrades him on purpose.
with no proof and ignoring all the times she didnt do shit, you cant even adress these instances
He pretty much is. He fails at pretty much everything he attempts.
by your logic vegeta is not any different then, since he fails to beat a main villain and gets humiliated by them often
I'm allowed to dislike something, and I haven't said anything against the people who like the show. You're the one attacking a person and a group of people, I'm just criticizing a show.
you dont criticize anything you talk shit with the popular opinion who do no different either
And if we're supposed to judge it "as its own thing" with no regard to the original then it should be an entirely new brand. You adapt an existing IP you're inevitably going to be compared to it, and it's unreasonable to tell people not to compare them.
Did you guys expect given netflix castlevania exists to be like the source? As more trailers came it was getting obvious its doing an original thing, what were you expecting to be comparable to the original now?
 
You act like in the games there werent fodder demons for you to kill around till you get to bosses
Except in the games he actually succeeds against the bosses as well. The presence of fodder demons and him beating those fodders in both the show and the games isn't the issue.
nice how you ignore btw he faced non fodder demons too and did better them any human, including lady
He lost and then she killed them in one hit. Results matter quite a lot.
Using tricks and gadgets to win it isnt in any way humiliation
If it was just once maybe. Problem is he consistently gets humiliated. At some point a character becomes a jobber.
are the superhumans from batman rogue gallery seen pathetic that batman needs tools and plans to win....
Batman struggles and frequently comes close to losing. Lady's consistent beating and stumping of Netflix Donte sets a pattern.

Like it or not, audiences recognize patterns, and frame things based on those patterns. People treat Bellatrix Lestrange as a threat because every action she takes ends in someone she targets getting ended or at least severely harmed, resulting in her mere presence ramping up the threat level. By contrast people mock Lucious Malfoy because every action he takes either fails or backfires on him. Netflix Dante generally fails in his attempts at most meaningful things or is generally treated as a joke, hence the audience treating him as a loser.
Disliking from you is hating to extreme, there is a difference to say why something is bad unlike what you do
I criticize a show. Never said anything against the people who like it. You're the one attacking me for not liking it.
by your logic vegeta is not any different then, since he fails to beat a main villain and gets humiliated by them often
Vegeta is generally outclassed by a fellow Saiyan, Goku. Not a human who is supposed to be weaker. He also beats Android 19, overwhelms 20, wiped out the Ginyu Force, and has beaten Goku before.
you dont criticize anything you talk shit with the popular opinion who do no different either
... I am criticizing what the show did. I'm not the one swearing at people, I'm not the one committing ad hominem, nor am I the one implying that criticism shouldn't be allowed.
Did you guys expect given netflix castlevania exists to be like the source? As more trailers came it was getting obvious its doing an original thing, what were you expecting to be comparable to the original now?
Irrelevant. If the show is an adaptation, one can't disregard comparison to the ideas and characters in the original source material just by saying it's different. People are allowed to dislike and allowed to criticize.
This is getting boring to see over and over with this kind of ignorance
you dont criticize anything you talk shit with the popular opinion who do no different either
Yeah sure, not even true, but lets keep being ignorant like that
Hope you realize hating includes talking shit without anything concrete besides what the popular opinion says, you dont criticize anything,

You accuse me of being hateful, but I'm not the one talking like this to you. You are swearing at me and insulting me, I'm not doing anything like that.
 
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Except in the games he actually succeeds against the bosses as well. The presence of fodder demons and him beating those fodders in both the show and the games isn't the issue.
He styles on them on the chase and kills/hurts some or they run away
He lost and then she killed them in one hit. Results matter quite a lot.
No it doesnt, the fact you think lady shooting kryptonite bullets at them when off guard is better then Dante fighting them and performing better then her 1v1 is ridiculous, its not even impressive from her doing a last shot at all
If it was just once maybe. Problem is he consistently gets humiliated. At some point a character becomes a jobber.
Yeah sure, not even true, but lets keep being ignorant like that
Batman struggles and frequently comes close to losing. Lady's consistent beating and stumping of Netflix Donte sets a pattern.
She never beat him, she captures him, in a 1v1 she gets rocked by him and the characters both fought Dante does better then her
Like it or not, audiences recognize patterns, and frame things based on those patterns. People treat Bellatrix Lestrange as a threat because every action she takes ends in someone she targets getting ended or at least severely harmed, resulting in her mere presence ramping up the threat level. By contrast people mock Lucious Malfoy because every action he takes either fails or backfires on him. Netflix Dante generally fails in his attempts at most meaningful things or is generally treated as a joke, hence the audience treating him as a loser.
Only hard core fans think that and in a toxic fashion, as you do here thinking he is a joke on false premise
I criticize a show. Never said anything against the people who like it. You're the one attacking me for not liking it.
Hope you realize hating includes talking shit without anything concrete besides what the popular opinion says, you dont criticize anything, Drite criticized it on its bad points, you just doompost
Vegeta is generally outclassed by a fellow Saiyan, Goku. Not a human who is supposed to be weaker. He also beats Android 19, overwhelms 20, wiped out the Ginyu Force, and has beaten Goku before.
lady never outclassed him, you literally pretend Lady wasnt physically outdone by her? Also she uses gadgets and tech, she isnt fighting liker her games counterpart
... I am criticizing what the show did. I'm not the one swearing at people, I'm not the one committing ad hominem, nor am I the one implying that criticism shouldn't be allowed.
you literally use the same arguments the others do out of hating to the show, you dont criticize anything, stop acting like you review like critiques do
Irrelevant. If the show is an adaptation, one can't disregard comparison to the ideas and characters in the original source material just by saying it's different.
You can literally say he aint like the original Dante instead of clowing him from stuff others stated from just sheer hate on the series, you dont do anything new
People are allowed to dislike and allowed to criticize.
i went over this already, you dont critic anything, you repeat what others said
You accuse me of being hateful, but I'm not the one talking like this to you
You clown the character on a false basis and say i cant call you out of this crap? I can and its not even in any offensive manner as you try to frame it, drop the toxic aura from others if you dont want to be called out
 
Hope you realize hating includes talking shit without anything concrete besides what the popular opinion says

you literally use the same arguments the others do out of hating to the show, you dont criticize anything, stop acting like you review like critiques do

You can literally say he aint like the original Dante instead of clowing him from stuff others stated from just sheer hate on the series, you dont do anything new
Just because others also think a certain way doesn't mean I'm not allowed to think the same way. Me criticizing a disrespectful adaptation isn't bad just because others do the same, nor does it make me some kind of copy.
You clown the character on a false basis and say i cant call you out of this crap?
No. I point out that you are swearing at people and insulting unnecessarily, even as I have done no such thing to you.
 
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So you rate that lower than Netflix DMC?
I haven't watched DMC Netflix yet, and I only finished DMC 5 for comparison.

But at least the Netflixvania has fluid animation (which earns it a 0.1 rating), but it seems like DMC doesn't even have that, and it still has that horrible 3D. So the rating will probably be negative.
 
I haven't watched DMC Netflix yet, and I only finished DMC 5 for comparison.

But at least the Netflixvania has fluid animation (which earns it a 0.1 rating), but it seems like DMC doesn't even have that, and it still has that horrible 3D. So the rating will probably be negative.
Will you watch it once season 2 is out? (Bing watch both seasons)
 
I haven't watched DMC Netflix yet, and I only finished DMC 5 for comparison.

But at least the Netflixvania has fluid animation (which earns it a 0.1 rating), but it seems like DMC doesn't even have that, and it still has that horrible 3D. So the rating will probably be negative.
3D ain't that bad tbh, only thing that looks off is Dante's DT, but it looks pretty neat in 2D
 
3D only stands out as being bad when it doesn’t mix well with 2-D animation. If you wanna do 3-D CG stuff then go full Hi Score Girl with the animation, that way it at least looks consistent enough and not jarring as hell.
 
The only times it stood out as bad to me was with Dante's Devil Trigger, didn't look bad and I kinda that liked it on the other demons, it was pretty cool and neat
 
The other demons having it looks really off, plus didn’t help that Agni and Rudra looks much worse when they have heads compared to how their design is supposed to be in the games.
 
The other demons having it looks really off, plus didn’t help that Agni and Rudra looks much worse when they have heads compared to how their design is supposed to be in the games.
Didn't looked off to me, having watched it a decent amount of times by now, I can't say it distracts me, I'm also sure they only gave them heads to make them emote more, as not having their heads would save money for the crew
 
Agni & Rudra just look very weird, same with Cavalier. Probably the contrast between 3D and 2D
I can't say they do, I've looked into them a lot in motion, I like it, Cavaliere sometimes feels off, but I can still buy it. Echidna looks the best out of them imo
 
Giving them their heads when the entire point of their design is their heads are in their swords is still a stupid decision. If you’re not going to adapt the most basic part of their designs then use some other demons.
 
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