Nasuverse Discussion Board (New Forum)

[Re5yh]

We should in a few days make a crt to undelete the profiles and put templates

 

[ShinMaximillion]

You don't need to, the staff are already discussing it for other verses too. Just taking a while longer.

 

[ShinyMagicalGirl]

Wow a lot of things happened during my momentary exile and lurking.

Still, I know Nasuverse is going to get a much lower ranking than before, but I wonder if UES can still be used to at least bump them up a notch? Arknights has lots of anti-feats like FGO and yet they’re still Tier 4 due to UES. Just a thought, though.

 

[Tdjwo]

Still, I know Nasuverse is going to get a much lower ranking than before,

Why would that be the case?

 

[Huesito88]

Why would that be the case?

Breaker said that's what was going to happen

 

[Tdjwo]

Breaker said that's what was going to happen

That's based on her own opinion.

 

[Re5yh]

lower ranking will keep verses being deleted

 

[Huesito88]

lower ranking will keep verses being deleted

What?

 

[Re5yh]

What?

Downgrade CRTs is a very bad idea
Reason: it ruins the character's stats and powers and it's cosmology.
Also Nasuverse isn't ACTUALLY tier 2 due to it's lore and cosmology

 

[Karabach-barabach]

Bro seeks power instead of rational powerscaling

 

[Re5yh]

Bro seeks power instead of rational powerscaling

No, I do powerscale Nasuverse

 

[Karabach-barabach]

Ok

 

[Tdjwo]

Bro seeks power instead of rational powerscaling

Lower ranking doesn't necessarily mean rational scaling. Especially with Nasuverse.

 

[ShinMaximillion]

Downgrade CRTs is a very bad idea
Reason: it ruins the character's stats and powers and it's cosmology.

What.

 

[ShinMaximillion]

Lower ranking doesn't necessarily mean rational scaling. Especially with Nasuverse.

I don't really know what you're on about either. 90% are just smurfs so I do get the arguments here and there as to why, not like anyone is placing the verse at 8C or such anyhow

 

[Tdjwo]

I don't really know what you're on about either. 90% are just smurfs so I do get the arguments here and there as to why, not like anyone is placing the verse at 8C or such anyhow

Huh? What are you talking about?

 

[ShinMaximillion]

Huh? What are you talking about?

Exactly what I mean.

 

[Tdjwo]

Exactly what I mean.

Which is? I genuinely don't know what you mean.

 

[ShinMaximillion]

Eh, I don't get what was so hard about what I stated, but whatever.

 

[Wankbreaker]

Which is? I genuinely don't know what you mean.

He means the verse doesn’t scale high and is carried by hax rather than actual scaling

 

[Tdjwo]

He means the verse doesn’t scale high and is carried by hax rather than actual scaling

Well, that's just hilariously wrong but ok. And even if it was true, why does that even mean the verse isn't strong if their hax are extremely busted into levels of dimensional hierarchies?

 

[Robo432343]

wangbreaker what tier are you trying to downgrade the verse to
coz you made so many downgrade attempts but none of them really passed

 

[Tdjwo]

wangbreaker what tier are you trying to downgrade the verse to

Knowing him, probably wall level

 

[Re5yh]

Multiverse Level Swirl of the Root

 

[ShinMaximillion]

Well, that's just hilariously wrong but ok. And even if it was true, why does that even mean the verse isn't strong if their hax are extremely busted into levels of dimensional hierarchies?

'Hilariously wrong', and yet you seem to have no idea on the factuals of me merely pointing out in regarding to physicals and not stating once the verse is inherently 'weak'
And yes, who's arguing the fact the haxes don't count? Considering how a good major chunk of the verse doesn't have this so called 'extremely busted into levels of dimensional hierarchies'; all I pointed out was merely how downgrade threads in itself is understandable, we know often Type Moon fumbles with things here and there.

I'd rather we focus on addressing the so called downgrade threads than like pretend otherwise same goes to people who seek to wank it, if either side is correct their crt gets evaluated simple as that. Verse accuracy is far more important than stupid agendas and are a major point as to why the profiles were so sucky. Do everything but in moderation, understood? Yes? Great.

 

[Robo432343]

fixing the profiles should be the main priority over the tier 1 stuff but people just care about either downgrading/upgrading the tiers and not the actual state of the profiles

 

[ShinMaximillion]

fixing the profiles should be the main priority over the tier 1 stuff but people just care about the tiers and not the actual state of the profiles

Actually real, hence why Nasuverse is in the state it is today. There are a few people here who're helping with the profiles such as expectro, Crim, Toxic and a few others with the other few willing to help in regardance to other profiles, rest just don't care or are too busy dilly-dallying over high tier debates which we're going to get nowhere unless we work on the profiles first.

 

[Tdjwo]

'Hilariously wrong', and yet you seem to have no idea on the factuals of me merely pointing out in regarding to physicals and not stating once the verse is inherently 'weak'

Can you even read what you type? Where exactly in your first comment do you specifically mention you were referring to physicals?

I don't really know what you're on about either. 90% are just smurfs so I do get the arguments here and there as to why, not like anyone is placing the verse at 8C or such anyhow

Tell me exactly where you specified "physicals." And I wasnt talking to you when I made a comment about "lower scaling ≠ better scaling." I was referring to Karabach's comment

Bro seeks power instead of rational powerscaling

At least think before accusing.

And yes, who's arguing the fact the haxes don't count? Considering how a good major chunk of the verse doesn't have this so called 'extremely busted into levels of dimensional hierarchies'; all I pointed out was merely how downgrade threads in itself is understandable, we know often Type Moon fumbles with things here and there.

Ok, why are you ponting these out to me as if I was coming at you? I was referring to Wankbreaker. Calm your ****. And let's not pretend the downgrade threads are understandable. They aren't. Thats just ridiculous.

I'd rather we focus on addressing the so called downgrade threads than like pretend otherwise same goes to people who seek to wank it, if either side is correct their crt gets evaluated simple as that. Verse accuracy is far more important than stupid agendas and are a major point as to why the profiles were so sucky. Do everything but in moderation, understood? Yes? Great.

My point is treating downgrades as a better option rather than logical and reasonable accuracy, is what led Nasuverse into it's current state as of today. The fact that the verse curently doesn't even exist atm is prove of that.

 

[Tdjwo]

fixing the profiles should be the main priority over the tier 1 stuff but people just care about either downgrading/upgrading the tiers and not the actual state of the profiles

So what do you think is taken into prority right now for Nasuverse? Cuz it sure as hell isnt upgrades or fixing. As certain people are only obsessed with downgrading.

 

[Hasty12345]

So what do you think is taken into prority right now for Nasuverse? Cuz it sure as hell isnt upgrades or fixing. As certain people are only obsessed with downgrading.

You're assuming the current ratings are accurate. In general, however, the lack of evidence on most the profiles were a problem.

 

[Tdjwo]

Actually real, hence why Nasuverse is in the state it is today. There are a few people here who're helping with the profiles such as expectro, Crim, Toxic and a few others with the other few willing to help in regardance to other profiles, rest just don't care or are too busy dilly-dallying over high tier debates which we're going to get nowhere unless we work on the profiles first.

Iirc, Toxic isn't helping anymore specifically because of Wankbreakers' obsession with downgrades. Neither is Crim as far as I remebered.

 

[ShinMaximillion]

Can you even read what you type? Where exactly in your first comment do you specifically mention you were referring to physicals?

Can you read what I type? What exactly did you infer from when I stated smurfs? Please, do just state you didn't know that that entails to or are simply incapable of reading rather than so to speak; accuse others of being unable to read. I stated it like I did; you're the one who failed to grasp what I meant. The burden does not lie on me but rather on you. Blaming me for something you do not understand? Really now? Is that all you can manage thereof?

Ok, why are you ponting these out to me as if I was coming at you? I was referring to Wankbreaker. Calm your ****. And let's not pretend the downgrade threads are understandable. They aren't. Thats just ridiculous.

I was naturally involved in the conversation, and I can assure you. I'm as calm as can be.
The downgrade threads mostly suck yeah, some make sense. Such as the scaling to Avalon one; also like I stated, if a downgrade thread or anything of the sort peeves you off so much, simply respond or state your points clearly to debunk the thread, ain't that hard rather than pulling some sort of ad hominem on people. Yeah sure, they suck. But can you prove how they do so? Doubt. Simply address all of those debunks threads you find oh so ridiculous next time, all I saw was you directing your usual childish attacks rather than prove anything substantial most of the times.

My point is treating downgrades as a better option rather than logical and reasonable accuracy, is what led Nasuverse into it's current state as of today. The fact that the verse curently doesn't even exist atm is prove of that.

And my entire point is that, on a case-by-case basis, a verse having its opponents is important. Wankbreaker does point out some good stuff once in a blue moon, but barely any other time. Nasuverse in its current state isn't even debunked into oblivion, let's not pretend otherwise. The fact that the verse currently doesn't exist is that the profiles are deleted on a majority vote, simple as that. It is coming back, but with an outdated template, like I stated, profiles matter way more than whatever tier squabbles you guys have for later on.

 

[ShinMaximillion]

Iirc, Toxic isn't helping anymore specifically because of Wankbreakers' obsession with downgrades. Neither is Crim as far as I remebered.

Oh, don't you worry about that, my friend is actively interested alongside me, Crim and a few others. That's 2024 news.

In fact, Crim is probably the only hard worker, alongside the people I mentioned a few messages above, and no, he doesn't care about Wankbreaker's obsession with downgrades either; we actively debate with her on certain matters.

 

[Tdjwo]

Can you read what I type? What exactly did you infer from when I stated smurfs? Please, do just state you didn't know that that entails to or are simply incapable of reading rather than so to speak; accuse others of being unable to read. I stated it like I did; you're the one who failed to grasp what I meant. The burden does not lie on me but rather on you. Blaming me for something you do not understand? Really now? Is that all you can manage thereof?

Ok, let me get this straight. I made a response to Karabach in which I said lower-ranking scaling doesn't necessarily make a scaling rational. You replied to me bringing in smurfs and shi. That's why I asked what you were talking about because neither I or Karabach or Re5yh mentioned anything about smurfs scaling so I was confused regarding what you were bringing into the conversation. And I do know what smurfs are. I just don't understand what that had to do with the comment I made to Karabach. So yes, you were yapping about something else which confused me.

I was naturally involved in the conversation, and I can assure you. I'm as calm as can be.
The downgrade threads mostly suck yeah, some make sense. Such as the scaling to Avalon one; also like I stated, if a downgrade thread or anything of the sort peeves you off so much, simply respond or state your points clearly to debunk the thread, ain't that hard rather than pulling some sort of ad hominem on people. Yeah sure, they suck. But can you prove how they do so? Doubt. Simply address all of those debunks threads you find oh so ridiculous next time, all I saw was you directing your usual childish attacks rather than prove anything substantial most of the times.

Again, I don't understand your problem. The entire argument and yapping you're bringing upon me started from this simple and logical comment;

Lower ranking doesn't necessarily mean rational scaling. Especially with Nasuverse.

I wasn't even trying to argue. It's just basic common sense I thought was straightforward. I didn't attack anyone. You're the one who came out of nowhere to yap about smurf-scaling to me.

And my entire point is that, on a case-by-case basis, a verse having its opponents is important. Wankbreaker does point out some good stuff once in a blue moon, but barely any other time. Nasuverse in its current state isn't even debunked into oblivion, let's not pretend otherwise. The fact that the verse currently doesn't exist is that the profiles are deleted on a majority vote, simple as that. It is coming back, but with an outdated template, like I stated, profiles matter way more than whatever tier squabbles you guys have for later on.

I don't really care who's important to the verse or whatnot. My point is downgrades aren't always logical. It seems like its a trent to consider downgrades regardles of how illogical it is, as a logical way of scaling, while ignoring upgrades and considering them as "wanking." And deleting the profiles weren't necessary. I don't understand how that was even a passed before. Explains why there's a crt to bring them back now.

 

[Tdjwo]

Oh, don't you worry about that, my friend is actively interested alongside me, Crim and a few others. That's 2024 news.

In fact, Crim is probably the only hard worker, alongside the people I mentioned a few messages above, and no, he doesn't care about Wankbreaker's obsession with downgrades either; we actively debate with her on certain matters.

Well, I don't really care on who's working on it tbf. Toxic was the only person I really trusted with the scaling of the verse, as he's the most knowledgeable, but even he told me he can't take the rest seriously when it comes to rebuilding the profiles, as they aren't doing the right job. So he left.
And I could have sworn Crim said he had nothing to do with the verse anymore.

 

[ShinMaximillion]

Well, I don't really care on who's working on it tbf. Toxic was the only person I really trusted with the scaling of the verse, as he's the most knowledgeable, but even he told me he can't take the rest seriously when it comes to rebuilding the profiles, as they aren't doing the right job. So he left.
And I could have sworn Crim said he had nothing to do with the verse anymore.

Eh, na, Toxic is still willing to do stuff with it; we hold discussions here and there often. He had stuff in all. He's helping and everything whenever he can, but nah, Crim never said something like that iirc, so you likely are mistaking him for someone else.

I think the profiles come in order with the scans and evidential substance first (Speaking for myself, I'm mostly done with Zero and Knk scans so far), then the cosmology blog, then the tier 1 stuff and then T0 whenever we get there. I have my own arguments to add regarding the disaster that was the previous two threads.

 

[Tdjwo]

Eh, na, Toxic is still willing to do stuff with it; we hold discussions here and there often. He had stuff in all. He's helping and everything whenever he can, but nah, Crim never said something like that iirc, so you likely are mistaking him for someone else.

Hmm...maybe he changed his mind as i haven't talked to him in a while now

I think the profiles come in order with the scans and evidential substance first (Speaking for myself, I'm mostly done with Zero and Knk scans so far), then the cosmology blog, then the tier 1 stuff and then T0 whenever we get there. I have my own arguments to add regarding the disaster that was the previous two threads.

I see.

 

[CRIMPSUMPSKI2]

And I could have sworn Crim said he had nothing to do with the verse anymore.

Wrong Crim

 

[Karabach-barabach]

Sometimes I wonder how the hell people start arguing about something whenever I state a neutral opinion on things... and no, I won't elaborate on anything further, deal with it as you see fit

 

[Re5yh]

I agree with tier 1-A throne of heroes, but disagree with 2-A swirl of the root