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Misaka Mikoto’s intelligence demotion from “Extraordinary Genius” to “Gifted” makes absolutely no sense and should be corrected

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So recently it has been brought to my attention by a friend of mine that Misaka Mikoto has been massively buffed in “Vs battle wiki” in almost every category which made me real happy but I also discovered that her intelligence was demoted from extraordinary genius to just genius which is absolutely nonsensical in my opinion. I will now try to present my case and hopefully convince you to change it.

First thing which I feel like I should say is that it’s already well known on this platform that level 5s have brains which surpass supercomputers in computing and calculative power (I believe this was directly stated somewhere too but can’t remember where off the top of my head). Regardless, this is pretty evident because espers constantly need to do an enormous amount of high level physics calculations in milliseconds for their powers to even work. In Toaru esper powers are like lifting your arm or something completely natural but it requires massive amounts of effort from the brain itself. Mikoto being a level 5 means that she especially needs to calculate thousands if not millions of things in a split second to basically do anything with her ability. Even when she is doing nothing her brain needs to subconsciously calculate things because she constantly sends out electromagnetic waves in all directions and she has an electromagnetic field/barrier surrounding her at all times. But aside from that even when she does the most basic thing with her ability she still needs to calculate charge, voltage, amperage, weight, air pressure, air resistance, electrical resistance, pathways, forces and physics at play, micro changes in surroundings, currents, kinematic equations, electromagnetic coil, magnetic component and many, many more calculations in an extremely short period of time. She can (for example) control millions of tons of iron sand and even individually control all those tiny iron sand particles and god knows how many millions of calculations her brain needs to do in a split second to achieve something like that. She can instantly summon enormous city spanning storms and the amount of calculating her brain would need to do for all the particles in the air, currents and everything is absolutely insane. A character stronger that her once ripped skyscrapers from Academy City and threw them at her like bullets. Not only was she able to stop them and gently put them back on the ground but she managed to do that without hurting any of the people inside of those buildings. The amount of precision and accuracy needed to pull that off is incredible and she definitely needed to calculate millions upon millions of things in a split second in order to pull that off. Even when she didn’t know she could do electrolysis, one time when she was under lots of pressure she managed to use electrolysis to separate water molecules from the ocean water into molecules of hydrogen and oxygen, she then used the hydrogen molecules as fuel for her water wings which she made from static electricity and water vapor (she can use oxygen molecules made this way to breathe underwater) and she did all this very quickly without even knowing she could do this beforehand (it was a tense situation). There are more instances too but I think these examples are enough. It should also be stated that she has more calculative brain power than any of the level 4 espers simply by nature of being a level 5 and there are already level 4s on this platform who have extraordinary genius level for calculative power and most of them are backed by feats. Mikoto should have more calculative power than any of them by default. No matter how you look at it she puts our supercomputers to massive shame. Just instantly summoning a giant storm over academy city and all the calculative power that requires (millions upon millions of calculations in a split second) far outclasses our computers, it’s really impressive.

Another thing is the AAA and her intelligence feats surrounding it. The AAA is an incredibly impressive piece of technology even for the Academy City which is 30 years ahead of our world to the point where most characters are completely shocked and puzzled by at and it seems like something out of sci-fi movies even for them. The combat speed of the AAA is Mach 6. It can travel faster than that in a straight line and allows her to get anywhere on Earth in some minutes, it has a massive array of weapons all of which are at least city level and all those weapons are neatly packed inside the backpack which is light enough that she can carry them (the entire AAA is that backpack) easily on her back, it protects the user from G-force, kinetic energy, explosions and other kinds of damage. It can transform into any kind of machine or vehicle regardless of size, from something as small as a normal bike to a plane, it has very advance AI which can predict what its user wants and respond to that instantly, it can be remotely controlled and probably do more things which I am not remembering right now. Mikoto not only immediately figured out how to use it upon stumbling in front of it (she didn’t know about its existence and she hasn’t ever seen anything similar to it) but she almost immediately understood how most of it worked. The most impressive AAA intelligence feat, however, is that she managed to reverse engineer it when it got destroyed for the first time. Just from memory and her own understanding and intellect she was able to reverse engineer it and make a perfect, slightly twerked and modified copy in a very short period of time and to make it even more impressive she didn’t have access to any high level laboratories, research facilities or even other high level tech when she reverse engineered it. She just did it on her own. If that’s not insanely impressive, I don’t know what is. I will remind you once again that even in the sci-fi world of Toaru the AAA was still an incredibly high level technology which left most people who witnessed it puzzled and confused/shocked.

Even when it comes to combat she is still an extremely intelligent combatant. One of her most loved character traits is that she is a very smart fighter who is very creative and quirky. She often comes up with complex and smart/effective strategies on the spot in difficult situations and she often finds ways to get out of tough situations with smarts and creativity. Her combat IQ is definitely very high and there are many instances where she was a smart fighter and managed to find a smart way to win even when she was under a lot of pressure. I was quite impressed by many combat intelligence feats she has displayed so far and she herself is pretty famous for being a very smart fighter. If you want I can list and go into detail about numerous fights in which she was smart, creative and quirky even while under pressure and managed to win by the combined efforts of smarts, strategy and creative use of her powers. I will refrain from doing that now because this post is already too long and that would probably make it twice as long. If you are curious, ask and I will gladly make a comment about it. It absolutely pains me to see that characters like Goku (no disrespect to him, he’s one of my faves) have extraordinary genius for their combat intelligence but Mikoto just has “Gifted” when she has shown extremely impressive combat intelligence feats many times before and is quite famous for that character trait. In my opinion her combat intelligence should get changed to normal “Genius” and she absolutely deserves it. She has proven time and time again that she belongs in that category combat intelligence vise.

She is also extremely knowledgeable about many different unrelated subjects and is like a living encyclopedia. She has shown high amounts of academic knowledge for subjects like agriculture, food processing and production, economy, politics, social status, social studies, science, language (she fluently speaks 5 foreign languages too), mechanics, engineering, mythology and religion, combat, esper powers, biology, medicine, geography, computers and other electronic devices, hacking and many more different and unrelated subjects. She’s also knowledgeable and precise enough that she is able to put many complex scientific theories to test herself by applying them to her powers and often gaining a new application for her ability (Lorenz force, Fleming’s left hand rule, Faraday’s Law, Ampère’s Law, water splitting and more).

She’s also just really good at almost everything and me and my friends often try to think of things she’s not good at and we struggle to think of more than a few (except romance… duh…). It’s seriously impressive how good she is at so many different things. Characters like Sam Raimi’s Peter Parker have extraordinary genius level intelligence and Mikoto is objectively more intelligent than him in almost every metric/category. Again, not dissing on him, Spider-Man is my favorite Marvel hero but it’s just something I notice and when I notice it and compare it it bothers me.

I can go on and there are more feats for her intelligence but this post has really become too long now and I don’t want to drag it on even more as I imagine it’s already a headache to read in its entirety. Thank you so much for taking your time to read all this and I really, really, really hope this helps out in returning Mikoto to extraordinary genius, I would be really happy if that happened and I fully believe it would be fair considering everything. Hopefully I haven’t thought and written about all this for nothing and this will get analyzed by people. Really hoping her intelligence gets rightfully upgraded and thank you all very much once again. Have a good day everyone.

Edit: Just realized she is “Genius” just for esper power and her general intelligence is “Gifted” 💀
I would say this is abysmal but I do not want to insult things that are actually abysmal. I have absolutely no words for this.

For the love of God please update every intelligence section by one tier cuz this is so wrong it’s hard to believe…
 
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I agree. There is absolutely no way that she's just gifted or in the same Genius tier as many of the other characters.
Thank you so much for taking the time to read all this and agreeing with me. I am very happy to see I’m not the only one here who feels this way. A number of Toaru fans that I know are unhappy with this change too so the two of us are definitely not the only ones who feel this way.
 
OP, I'd recommend you include some passages from ToAru to make the CRT go smoother. Of course, knowing ToAru it is easy to agree with your conclusion but others may be unaware. If you need help or some references, lmk
 
??? I'm going to be deleting this nonsense back and forth it's irrelevant to the crt
 
No scans, no references, not even a suggested new section... don't we have a rule that CRTS like this can be immediately closed with no warning?
Sure. This is much closer to an argument than a full-fledged CRT. It's probably in the best interest of OP to redo this with at least the passages mentioned above.
 
It's ironic that you were telling me to grow up yet youre stalling a CRT because of an unproblematic comment on a CRT.🗿

I didn't attack his character so quit trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill. Stay on topic
 
Word salad 🙏
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Possibly yeah

They could always edit the OP, which is the grace that I'm granting them, unless they want to do over with a new CRT
"Content Revision Threads need to be supported by scans, quotes, video clips, accepted calculations, or any other direct proof that claimed events actually happened in the source material. In the absence of this evidence, CRTs may be closed without notice." ~ Discussion Rules

seems you can close this at any time, continue with grace period
 
You need to draft up a new intelligence section with scans and references so staff can properly evaluate.

a word salad with no scans isn't going to be added onto the profiles
It feels pretty disheartening to put so much thought into writing this only for it to get called a word salad. I didn’t realize scans were needed because all the intelligence feats I mentioned are already on Mikoto's vs battle wiki. Why would you need scans for something that you already have scans for and already put on her profile? I am not arguing for new intelligence feats here. I am just saying that her existing intelligence feats which you already put on her profile are much more impressive than you give her credit for. Despite all her feats you put her in just “Gifted”. Heck maybe I could be considered gifted based on your parameters. Can’t wait to make my own AAA, calculate faster than a super computer and be good at pretty much everything.
 
It feels pretty disheartening to put so much thought into writing this only for it to get called a word salad. I didn’t realize scans were needed because all the intelligence feats I mentioned are already on Mikoto's vs battle wiki. Why would you need scans for something that you already have scans for and already put on her profile? I am not arguing for new intelligence feats here. I am just saying that her existing intelligence feats which you already put on her profile are much more impressive than you give her credit for. Despite all her feats you put her in just “Gifted”. Heck maybe I could be considered gifted based on your parameters. Can’t wait to make my own AAA, calculate faster than a super computer and be good at pretty much everything.
Port the scans if they're already there, then. And give a rewrite of the intelligence section.
 
"Content Revision Threads need to be supported by scans, quotes, video clips, accepted calculations, or any other direct proof that claimed events actually happened in the source material. In the absence of this evidence, CRTs may be closed without notice." ~ Discussion Rules

seems you can close this at any time, continue with grace period
But I don’t get it. I made sure to only mention the feats which you already put on her vs battle wiki profile and explained. Why would I need to put all the scans here when you already have them all and have used them all for her profile? You already know that all the feats which I mentioned happened and you exactly how they happened, isn’t it redundant to post them all here again when they are literally are mentioned on her profile and sourced. I was arguing that her intelligence feats (which you already described all in detail) belong in a higher category of intelligence based on the requirements you put for various categories. She has multiple intelligence feats which fit with “Extraordinary Genius” level and that was her general intelligence level until recently. Then you suddenly downgraded all of her intelligence categories two tiers (not even one) and haven’t provided any explanation for why you did such a bizarre move.

My opinion on what her 3 intelligence categories should be (since I indeed didn’t mention that) are the following

General intelligence - Extraordinary Genius (or Genius at the very least but that’s honestly low in my opinion)

Combat intelligence - Genius

Ability intelligence - Extraordinary Genius

Feel free to correct me or give me advice on anything you might find displeasing.
 
Port the scans if they're already there, then. And give a rewrite of the intelligence section.
Rewrite of the intelligence section?

I am not asking out of being rude, I just want to make sure I understand it so I can correctly do it.
 
I didn't put her in Gifted 😭 I don't even know the verse

If you're just proposing that her profile should be upgraded from Gifted to Genius based on what's already accepted and on her profile then I understand that. But we have rules on the wiki. If your proposing upgrades you have to substantiate them with scans and references, if they're already on her page, then that makes it 100x easier all you have to do is port them here.

In the OP you literally state: "it’s already well known on this platform that level 5s have brains which surpass supercomputers in computing and calculative power (I believe this was directly stated somewhere too but can’t remember where off the top of my head)"

How can a staff member agree with the CRT if you don't have anything that backs your belief. I've never seen the verse, so I don't know whether this is true or not.

It absolutely pains me to see that characters like Goku (no disrespect to him, he’s one of my faves) have extraordinary genius for their combat intelligence
You say stuff like this in the OP which is just completely irrelevant to the topic as well. Goku got this rating because of Crts that had scans that supported said rating, something that your OP currently lacks.
Characters like Sam Raimi’s Peter Parker have extraordinary genius level intelligence and Mikoto is objectively more intelligent than him in almost every metric/category. Again, not dissing on him, Spider-Man is my favorite Marvel hero but it’s just something I notice and when I notice it and compare it it bothers me.
This as well is just unnecessary and I'm not gonna say I agree because you and your friends say so



Im not trying to be incendiary so don't take me saying "word salad" as me trying to mock you, but it's moreso what I got out of this. You comparing this character to two characters completely irrelevant to the upgrade ur proposing, an OP with absolutely 0 scans and here say.
 
I didn't put her in Gifted 😭 I don't even know the verse

If you're just proposing that her profile should be upgraded from Gifted to Genius based on what's already accepted and on her profile then I understand that. But we have rules on the wiki. If your proposing upgrades you have to substantiate them with scans and references, if they're already on her page, then that makes it 100x easier all you have to do is port them here.

In the OP you literally state: "it’s already well known on this platform that level 5s have brains which surpass supercomputers in computing and calculative power (I believe this was directly stated somewhere too but can’t remember where off the top of my head)"

How can a staff member agree with the CRT if you don't have anything that backs your belief. I've never seen the verse, so I don't know whether this is true or not.


You say stuff like this in the OP which is just completely irrelevant to the topic as well. Goku got this rating because of Crts that had scans that supported said rating, something that your OP currently lacks.

This as well is just unnecessary and I'm not gonna say I agree because you and your friends say so



Im not trying to be incendiary so don't take me saying "word salad" as me trying to mock you, but it's moreso what I got out of this. You comparing this character to two characters completely irrelevant to the upgrade ur proposing, an OP with absolutely 0 scans and here say.
I didn’t mean to say you did it, by “you” I meant to say people who reworked her profile. My bad for the confusion. I didn’t know how else to refer to them.

Again, as I already said, I didn’t know I needed to post scans because every intelligence feat that I mentioned is already present on her vs battle wiki profile, explained and sourced. I am arguing that it’s insane that someone who fit 3 out of 4 necessary requirements for “Extraordinary Genius” suddenly got demoted not even to “Genius” but to “Gifted” without any explanation given. The reason why I mentioned Sam Raimi’s Peter Parker is because he possesses only one (in my opinion) requirement for “Extraordinary Genius” and he is sitting comfortably there, even aside that he has less impressive intelligence feats than her so I felt a need to compare them just to show how illogical it was. It doesn’t need to get taken into account, it was just a comment from me.

All the intelligence feats that I mentioned existed on her profile ever since it was first added and she was in the “Extraordinary Genius” category ever since then and everyone here agreed that she deserves to be in “Extraordinary Genius” based on her already added intelligence feats until recently and suddenly she was demoted to “Gifted” without any reason or explanation given. I checked her rework post and no one mentioned why her intelligence was downgraded two full tiers (as far as I could see) so instead of my post even existing whoever reworked her profile should instead explain why they decided to downgrade her already agreed on intelligence not one but two full tiers. I just am shocked and feel like it’s incorrect and unjust so I want it to be corrected. The point of my post was to argue that her intelligence feats already present on her vs battle wiki profile fit a far higher category than “Gifted” and based on all the requirements for various intelligence categories that 100% stands true and that was true until recently someone tried to suggest that real life honor students can reverse engineer massively futuristic weapons, calculate millions of equations and formulas in milliseconds and come up with new ways to reality warp with their brains.
 
I didn’t mean to say you did it, by “you” I meant to say people who reworked her profile. My bad for the confusion. I didn’t know how else to refer to them.

Again, as I already said, I didn’t know I needed to post scans because every intelligence feat that I mentioned is already present on her vs battle wiki profile, explained and sourced. I am arguing that it’s insane that someone who fit 3 out of 4 necessary requirements for “Extraordinary Genius” suddenly got demoted not even to “Genius” but to “Gifted” without any explanation given. The reason why I mentioned Sam Raimi’s Peter Parker is because he possesses only one (in my opinion) requirement for “Extraordinary Genius” and he is sitting comfortably there, even aside that he has less impressive intelligence feats than her so I felt a need to compare them just to show how illogical it was. It doesn’t need to get taken into account, it was just a comment from me.

All the intelligence feats that I mentioned existed on her profile ever since it was first added and she was in the “Extraordinary Genius” category ever since then and everyone here agreed that she deserves to be in “Extraordinary Genius” based on her already added intelligence feats until recently and suddenly she was demoted to “Gifted” without any reason or explanation given. I checked her rework post and no one mentioned why her intelligence was downgraded two full tiers (as far as I could see) so instead of my post even existing whoever reworked her profile should instead explain why they decided to downgrade her already agreed on intelligence not one but two full tiers. I just am shocked and feel like it’s incorrect and unjust so I want it to be corrected. The point of my post was to argue that her intelligence feats already present on her vs battle wiki profile fit a far higher category than “Gifted” and based on all the requirements for various intelligence categories that 100% stands true and that was true until recently someone tried to suggest that real life honor students can reverse engineer massively futuristic weapons, calculate millions of equations and formulas in milliseconds and come up with new ways to reality warp with their brains.
Let's just brainstorm how we can move forward and format this CRT better. If you need help on this front, shoot me a DM. My schedule is pretty clear for today.
 
Let's just brainstorm how we can move forward and format this CRT better. If you need help on this front, shoot me a DM. My schedule is pretty clear for today.
Thank you for being so kind to me, I really appreciate you standing up for me and trying to help me out. You’re awesome.

How can I send you a DM? I can’t do it by clicking on your profile.
 
Rewrite of the intelligence section?

I am not asking out of being rude, I just want to make sure I understand it so I can correctly do it.
You're not being rude by asking genuine questions when you don't even have a triple digit message count, it comes with being that new.

Orgrim Doomhammer has a pretty good intelligence section for something without scans, so dont be afraid to use tabbers to further organize your intelligence sections. Other than that, this hobby is equal parts writing and reading way too far into things, so have fun with it!
 
I don’t have time so I didn't read the entire thread so:

You need to draft up a new intelligence section with scans and references so staff can properly evaluate.

a word salad with no scans isn't going to be added onto the profiles
The only problem is the rating being indexed, the feats in her profile are by themselves enough to attain EG or at the bare minimum Genius, just take a look there.
 
I don’t have time so I didn't read the entire thread so:


The only problem is the rating being indexed, the feats in her profile are by themselves enough to attain EG or at the bare minimum Genius, just take a look there.
And she isn’t even rated “Genius” now. She is rated “Gifted”. Everyone agreed before that her feats are fully enough to put her in “Extraordinary Genius”, what happened that she got demoted not one but two full levels? Whoever did that demotion never gave any reasoning or explanation for it. It’s so stupid I can hardly believe it.
 
You're not being rude by asking genuine questions when you don't even have a triple digit message count, it comes with being that new.

Orgrim Doomhammer has a pretty good intelligence section for something without scans, so dont be afraid to use tabbers to further organize your intelligence sections. Other than that, this hobby is equal parts writing and reading way too far into things, so have fun with it!
Thanks for the help, I appreciate it.
 
But I don’t get it.
For the wiki, a CRT is a "Content Revision Thread". The point is that you're proposing that a piece of content should be revised to something else.

While the claim of "Mikoto should be more intelligent" can be valid, you need to provide supporting evidence for that argument from the source and provide what the profile should look like.

For example, when I did a CRT for Jason Voorhees I included what I thought should be changed and why. For an ability when I did a CRT for the speed rating of D&D Immortals I explained with scans why their speed should be changed and gave a rough outline of what it would be.

For the OP itself, the main issue is that it's unsourced, unreadable and word-dense. You should either split it into bullet points for each one or split it into multiple paragraphs. Right now, it reads as a run-on sentence. Scans for the feats should also be included or at least the chapters/volumes where they happen sourced.
 
For the wiki, a CRT is a "Content Revision Thread". The point is that you're proposing that a piece of content should be revised to something else.

While the claim of "Mikoto should be more intelligent" can be valid, you need to provide supporting evidence for that argument from the source and provide what the profile should look like.

For example, when I did a CRT for Jason Voorhees I included what I thought should be changed and why. For an ability when I did a CRT for the speed rating of D&D Immortals I explained with scans why their speed should be changed and gave a rough outline of what it would be.

For the OP itself, the main issue is that it's unsourced, unreadable and word-dense. You should either split it into bullet points for each one or split it into multiple paragraphs. Right now, it reads as a run-on sentence. Scans for the feats should also be included or at least the chapters/volumes where they happen sourced.
Thank you for your advice, it’s appreciated and I will try to make it better and post it again (or edit this post?).

But there are a few things which I still feel a need to ask.

How to post scans? Should I just reference in which volume a feat was stated or showed or should I post every statement and feat in full? Cuz I feel like if I do the latter the new post will be quite large and text heavy which is evidently something that you don’t want. Especially since all the intelligence feats I mentioned are located on her vs battle wiki page and explained. Or at least that was the case until this rework which butchered her intelligence section completely. Whoever did it removed a few feats for no given reason and simplified the explanation for a lot of her remaining feats which in turn makes them seem less impressive. So what should my next post look like?

Why wasn’t the person who reworked Mikoto’s profile questioned as to why they butchered her intelligence? When Mikoto’s profile was first made and finished her intelligence feats already were enough to put her into “Extraordinary Genius” and everyone agreed with that (even now pretty much every Toaru fan I talked to agrees) so why did then no one demand scans or explanation from the person who decided to demote Mikoto’s intelligence two full tiers into “Gifted” which everyone under the sun knows she is far above? People are supposed to come to her profile, see that she reverse engineered from scratch an extremely advanced (even for a sci-fi world) tech (machine) and that she far outclasses a super computer in calculative and computing power and then see that she is put in “Gifted” and then conclude that it makes sense? I am absolutely shocked no one has corrected that so far.

I will make a new post and try my best to cover it as much as possible with source evidence and I will try to trim down the words but I would like if you were still available then to review it and hopefully change Mikoto’s intelligence section back to how it was before getting butchered. It would feel absolutely crushing to put all that effort into making this CRT only for it to get ignored afterwards so I really hope it pays off. Thank you for your advice and see you soon, hopefully.
 
How to post scans?
You can either directly post the URL like this: https://vsbattles.com/threads/misak...-and-should-be-corrected.179128/#post-7073946

Or highlight a text and click the chain icon to link something to it (two symbols to the left of the simile face)
Should I just reference in which volume a feat was stated or showed or should I post every statement and feat in full
A proper profile source will look like this page, this page or this page
Especially since all the intelligence feats I mentioned are located on her vs battle wiki page and explained.
Then relink them in the intelligence section.

Also they weren't sourced or backed. I went to the pre-edit version and nothing in the intelligence section was sourced
Extraordinary Genius. As one of Academy City's only Level 5s and the Ace of Tokiwadai, Mikoto is a Straight-A student and a genius, being able to process information faster than most supercomputers. Besides Japanese Mikoto can speak English, French, Italian and Russian, and she thinks she can manage a few other languages. She is very creative in the use of her powers, overwhelming insulation barriers simply by amping up the charge after realizing that it has a limit, manipulating iron sand in multiple ways, devising her infamous Railgun technique on her own and even coming up with new applications of her power in the spot, such as when she used her electricity to manipulate water vapor in order to fly. She is also tech-savvy, being capable of hacking most security systems in Academy City (which is 20 to 30 years ahead of the world, with Mikoto comparing her surprise at the low comparative level of the security of the American Liberal Arts City local network to seeing a car running on coal). She could also hack the server of a large casino in one of Academy City's cooperative institutions while at the same time devoting her spare time and brainpower to talking to her companion and helping her win several poker games in a row. However, as a teenager, she's often short-tempered and can be easily agitated, which leads to reckless and short-sighted decision making.
So that comparison doesn't work.
Why wasn’t the person who reworked Mikoto’s profile questioned as to why they butchered her intelligence?
They were, because she was downgraded in a CRT that was accepted, which you can read here.

Additionally, you have to clarify how she fits for EG
Extraordinary Genius: Individuals whose knowledge spreads over multiple fields of science and who vastly surpass the real world's upper human limits. At this level, many are capable of creating extremely advanced futuristic technology, executing complex strategies even under high pressure, outperforming supercomputers, and even accurately predicting the future through sheer mental calculations. This is where super scientists of exceptional scientific knowledge begin to appear.

Just listing stuff by itself won't accomplish much; you have to show that she fits the minimum requirements for EG.
 
You can either directly post the URL like this: https://vsbattles.com/threads/misak...-and-should-be-corrected.179128/#post-7073946

Or highlight a text and click the chain icon to link something to it (two symbols to the left of the simile face)

A proper profile source will look like this page, this page or this page

Then relink them in the intelligence section.

Also they weren't sourced or backed. I went to the pre-edit version and nothing in the intelligence section was sourced

So that comparison doesn't work.

They were, because she was downgraded in a CRT that was accepted, which you can read here.

Additionally, you have to clarify how she fits for EG

Just listing stuff by itself won't accomplish much; you have to show that she fits the minimum requirements for EG.
Alright I will get to work.

He just mentions that he reworked her intelligence but he gives 0 explanations or reasonings for why he nerfed it into the ground and he doesn’t show a single scan or anti-feat for it, yet it’s allowed no questions asked? For most other changes he actually gave scans and even reworked calculations for her previous feats and his changes make sense but for intelligence he just decided to do a /1000 and left no explanation for why he did something which every Toaru fan will immediately tell you is total nonsense.

I will ask once again, in what universe does it make sense that a character who reverse engineered an extremely complex sci-fi technology, can process likely millions of calculations and equations in milliseconds, can hack at subatomic level, applies complex scientific laws on her ability (which already requires super complex and very fast brain calculations) and is very well knowledgeable and educated on many different scientific fields is placed in the “Gifted” category? Cuz by your own definition “Gifted” are real life experts in a certain scientific field (just one) and honor/straight A students. So, in what universe can our single field experts do what I mentioned above? (All of these feats mentioned in her reworked profile btw)
 
yet it’s allowed no questions asked?
If no one questions the rating in the CRT, the suggested change will go through once it's been accepted. If every Toaru fan disagreed with that change, then they should have voiced that disagreement.
So, in what universe can our single field experts do what I mentioned above?
I'm not here to really write the statistics for you. Just write what you think it should be and why, then we'll go from there.
 
If no one questions the rating in the CRT, the suggested change will go through once it's been accepted. If every Toaru fan disagreed with that change, then they should have voiced that disagreement.

I'm not here to really write the statistics for you. Just write what you think it should be and why, then we'll go from there.
Alright I will get to work. I just want to know how to notify you when I am done and how to get people to see my post and comment? Cuz it took a while for this one to gain traction and I needed to ask a friend to ask some users to come and see it.

Also, I don’t know how else to make the new post but very long cuz for every feat, aside from showing the scan (which itself will always be multiple sentences long) I will also need to provide some context for most of the feats cuz we need to understand the true scale of every feat to understand why it’s as impressive as it is (or not as impressive) so the new post will definitely be significantly larger than this one. I want her combat intelligence to be upgraded from gifted to genius (for example, other two should be extraordinary genius) but I can’t just say: “Well, most of her fights in Railgun showed that she is an extremely intelligent fighter, so that’s it. Source: Railgun manga” can I now? I would need to provide examples from at least multiple fights and provide some context and explanation to them. Naturally this will make the new post larger than the current one. Will that be ok?
 
As long as it's sourced and mostly readable it's fine. This guy's intelligence section is very large but well sourced as an example
That’s good to hear. One final question and I’ll be off (thanks).

Is it ok if I just copy paste the text and after quotation marks I write from what volume or chapter it is? It just put a manga panel and quite what exact chapter it is? Cuz I really don’t know how to source another way. I will only copy paste the exact words and won’t add any additional things.

Also, this would mean a lot to me cuz it would save me a hole lot of time but if a scan is way too long (so copy pasting it would make the post way too long) can I just say what exactly she did and then next to put the volume it comes from? Using key words it’s easily checkable.

Also, can you pardon me from having to post scans that she is one of the two best hackers in Toaru and very frequently hacks Academy City systems and machines? Cuz she does that very frequently and it’s one of the most well known traits. I will still put in sources of what I consider to believe her most impressive hacking feats but finding sources for all instances would take way too much time and mental energy and I really have little to spare right now… I would gladly do it but Toaru is one of the most enormous franchises by far with millions and millions of words so hunting for every instance that I remember would be downright impossible. With something as common as her hacking I think it’s unnecessary. It’s like asking me to put in a source that she can fire a railgun.
 
Is it ok if I just copy paste the text and after quotation marks I write from what volume or chapter it is?
No. The wiki page isn't something like an English Essay or Respect Thread. You cant copy paste paragraphs or directly insert images into the page outside of certain areas. You can upload a screen shot of the relevant portion and link it to that, make a blog with the quotes and use that, or use a third party site to host the images/text for the page.
Also, can you pardon me from having to post scans that she is one of the two best hackers in Toaru and very frequently hacks Academy City systems and machines?

If you're writing a essay for a class about how the Earth's surface is made mostly of water, would you link one geographic source saying that or forty geographic sources? You need to show an example of something happening, but you don't need to show every example of it happening.
 
No. The wiki page isn't something like an English Essay or Respect Thread. You cant copy paste paragraphs or directly insert images into the page outside of certain areas. You can upload a screen shot of the relevant portion and link it to that, make a blog with the quotes and use that, or use a third party site to host the images/text for the page.
I meant for the new revision post. I don’t know in what way to put the sources in the post itself since I first will be making a new revision thread with all my arguments sourced. I don’t have an option to edit vs battle wiki pages so I can’t do that even if I wanted. I can only rely on someone else to edit her intelligence section after I present the evidence in the new content revision post. If you think I can edit her page, put in the feats and the sources and then make a post asking people if they agree (like FantaRin did) then please tell me how.

I have never done anything similar to this before and I am overwhelmed, I wish someone helped me… I am tackling by far the biggest franchise I know and the most prominent character in it as a newbie… this is really tough for me.

If anyone can spare some time to help me then please tell me, it would be greatly appreciated.
 
I can edit the profile, but you have to cite your claims with scans because I'm not familiar with all of these events and it's necessary for evaluation
 
I can edit the profile, but you have to cite your claims with scans because I'm not familiar with all of these events and it's necessary for evaluation
Thanks a lot, I really appreciate it.

Do you perhaps have discord by any chance? I would like to coordinate this with you. I have never done this and I’m a bit lost. Some help and feedback would really help me out a lot.
 
I do want to point. Doing a lot of calculations per second doesnt inherently mean intelligence.

A FTL character can calculate billions of things a second, but not be anything above average, simply due to speed. Frame of reference matters.

It also matters what said calculations even are, a bunch of grade 2 math isn't impressive, and if her computing power only applies to the specific properties she needs to excel to use her power, that's less "super smart" and more "is super good at this one set of things", like could she on the fly perform a billion calculations for things like rocket science, quantum mechanics, and more? Or is it just things she's already been ingrained to know and is just running with it?

Like, I get it, but there's nuance to some of these things. Context matters. And the wiki has gotten hyperanal with extraordinary genius lately, I've seen characters who can make tier 2-1 slop cap at that.
 
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