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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

That fight hasn’t happened yet dude. That’s explicitly cour 4, which is why we’re waiting for the anime for Askin 🗿

This has been explained to you. It’s the same reason we’re going to wait for Jugram
So gerard's simple appearance was enough. I understand
 
Here’s why Askin doesn’t scale to Kisuke in the manga anyway.

Askin straight up states that Kisuke’s physicals are nerfed in the gift ball deluxe. Kisuke even agrees with that notion, he says despite being in his Bankai state he isn’t at full physical capacity. We see this to be true when he drops to his knees unable to move at the end of the fight. Furthermore, the entire reason Askin uses gift ring, as he says, is because Kisuke was too dangerous to fight in a physical contest. Not only is Kisuke too smart to be tricked, he’s too strong normally to be contested head on for Askin. So, no, Askin does not scale to Kisuke 🗿 Kisuke likens his nerf to being “barely able to crawl”. It’s just beyond self evident that he’s massively nerfed. You would have to prove that Kisuke is relative to his full power, or else we just have no grounds to arbitrarily say Vollstandig Askin is at that level.

Now the anime could change this, hence why we’re waiting on the anime.
 
Here’s why Askin doesn’t scale to Kisuke in the manga anyway.

Askin straight up states that Kisuke’s physicals are nerfed in the gift ball deluxe. Kisuke even agrees with that notion, he says despite being in his Bankai state he isn’t at full physical capacity. We see this to be true when he drops to his knees unable to move at the end of the fight. Furthermore, the entire reason Askin uses gift ring, as he says, is because Kisuke was too dangerous to fight in a physical contest. Not only is Kisuke too smart to be tricked, he’s too strong normally to be contested head on for Askin. So, no, Askin does not scale to Kisuke 🗿 Kisuke likens his nerf to being “barely able to crawl”. It’s just beyond self evident that he’s massively nerfed. You would have to prove that Kisuke is relative to his full power, or else we just have no grounds to arbitrarily say Vollstandig Askin is at that level.

Now the anime could change this, hence why we’re waiting on the anime.
Gottcha. I am guessing byakuya would be upgraded to 4A as well.
 

Just throwing this down for discussion. Ignore the fact that this was put together with duct tape and glue
 
 
Uryu vs Garou would have been the better match imo since that's literally the only person garou can fight in bleach that's on his level without getting oneshotted by soul crush or needing NPI to touch.
 
Hello this thread has basically just devolved into arguring if somthing kai has that one shots ghosts would do that here and if quinices would be treated like ghosts for this purpose. I'd appreciate if someone has the time who knows bleach unlike me to take a look see if me or anyone else just spouting bs.
 
Urahara's bankai is fundamentally different. It's not generic amp. It's very much power modification.
It provides a stat amp as we see several times when he uses that power modification in conjunction with his body. It just blitzed the fashionista.
 
Sure, but this key, Uryu was always in the Soul Society, so for our pages, this key is always a soul.
Anyone in the soul society is a soul tho, this doesn't make any sense. The argument for the others is that is there is no proof they had physical bodies and they were born in the soul society so I understand that but this doesn't apply to uryu.
 
Anyone in the soul society is a soul tho, this doesn't make any sense. The argument for the others is that is there is no proof they had physical bodies and they were born in the soul society so I understand that but this doesn't apply to uryu.
the OP can just clarify if it’s soul or human Uryu 🗿 edit it into the vs match, “Uryu (as a spirit) vs Blah” Yall far overcomplicate things
Fair enough.
 
Can we work on nimaiya's profile?
This guy negated gerard, pernida's regeneration. This shoild be taken into consideration.
 

Btw isn't Aizen's adaptation is a 4D smurf since it can effect the entire world?

Universal, possibly Universal+ to Interdimensional with the Hogyoku (The Hogyoku can affect the entire world through its ability to fulfill the desires of people)
 

Btw isn't Aizen's adaptation is a 4D smurf since it can effect the entire world?

Universal, possibly Universal+ to Interdimensional with the Hogyoku (The Hogyoku can affect the entire world through its ability to fulfill the desires of people)
 

Btw isn't Aizen's adaptation is a 4D smurf since it can effect the entire world?

Universal, possibly Universal+ to Interdimensional with the Hogyoku (The Hogyoku can affect the entire world through its ability to fulfill the desires of people)
Uh... that's a good question. It probably isn't right now since that's only range.
 
 
 
No, currently only Gerard in his stronger forms and Uryu are accepted to scale above Gremmy
Isn't it because of kenpachi being stronger than gremmy and gerard beat shikai kenpachi without eye patch? If that's the case, I can see why the elite squad aren't 4-A and most captains don't scale to toshiro, unohano and kenpachi then.
 
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