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Dark Tower: High 1-A Content Revision

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No, what I mean is: is Udlmaster joining High 1-A+? Qawsedf234 already clearly stated that they are not joining High 1-A+, so I’m not referring to them.
@Udlmaster

Do you currently agree with Qawsedf234 and VeryGoofyToddler2 here? 🙏
 
Thank you for helping out to you as well. 🙏❤️
 
Will Ultima be making an appearance here soon?
Ultima has a backlog of stuff and splits their time. If you want to wait for them, you can, otherwise, to my understanding the proposal I give here:
High 1-B+ or Low 1-A | 1-A+ | High 1-A
Has been accepted by two other Admins, which would be enough for a revision to go through.
 
Ultima has a backlog of stuff and splits their time. If you want to wait for them, you can, otherwise, to my understanding the proposal I give here:

Has been accepted by two other Admins, which would be enough for a revision to go through.
Would you be open to a brief discussion regarding the "+" addition? I added some extra details to the cosmology page to help avoid any confusion. That said, if you don't think further input from me on this revision is necessary, I completely respect that. To be honest, I'm making a deliberate effort to avoid any kind of exaggeration when it comes to the layers. Perhaps the matter of High 1-A+ is something that can only be properly clarified through a thoughtful discussion.

“Otherwise, I guess I'll wait for Ultima.”
 
Would you be open to a brief discussion regarding the "+" addition? I added some extra details to the cosmology page to help avoid any confusion. That said, if you don't think further input from me on this revision is necessary, I completely respect that. To be honest, I'm making a deliberate effort to avoid any kind of exaggeration when it comes to the layers. Perhaps the matter of High 1-A+ is something that can only be properly clarified through a thoughtful discussion.

“Otherwise, I guess I'll wait for Ultima.”
I'm pretty sure that this was already discussed so I doubt you could gaslight the mods at this point. You’ll just have to wait for Ultima.
 
There's nothing funny about it. Its called knowing how to read and convey the room about what was said. Qaws stated his position very clearly, you've seem to miss the pages of talk you had with him about his position on High 1-A+.
I guess I'll just wait for Ultima.
(This doesn't mean I'm agreeing to anything, I'm just tired of repeating the same words.)
 
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Aren't hunk and you opened High 1-A order for DT?
Yes, this is what you mean:
To be honest, if you were to ask @Protector_Hunk the same thing, he would also say that almost the entire scale in this CRT belongs to Auren. Similarly, I remember that back when we talked about this scale on Discord, the topic of High 1-A+ was still an ongoing discussion. At that time, I didn't have a definite opinion about the High 1-A+ matter yet.
 
Ultima has a backlog of stuff and splits their time. If you want to wait for them, you can, otherwise, to my understanding the proposal I give here:

Has been accepted by two other Admins, which would be enough for a revision to go through.
So should we apply this now then? 🙏
 
I think it would be better to close this thread and accept the current rating for now. OP can always open another thread specifically for High 1-A+, it would be less complicated to evaluate, I feel like.
 
I think it would be better to close this thread and accept the current rating for now. OP can always open another thread specifically for High 1-A+, it would be less complicated to evaluate, I feel like.
I agree. In that case, it would be best to consider this content revision as High 1-A for now. I can open another CRT regarding the High 1-A+ topic soon, but for now, it seems better for High 1-A to be accepted. (At least, instead of explaining everything from the beginning again, we could just discuss the High 1-A+ topic.) In conclusion:
  • Short-Time Levels: High 1-B+ (The 1-A+ status has not been accepted yet.)
  • Long-Time Levels: 1-A+ (Because it is a hierarchy that exists in the End World, governed by an entirely separate algorithm.)
  • Beam Guardians: High 1-A (Because they are beings that hold everything within their minds.)
  • Macroverse Entities: High 1-A (An extra layer)
Since @Qawsedf234 does not consider it appropriate for High 1-A to have infinite layers, all 1-A+ beings are downgraded to High 1-B+, and the entire infinitely-layered High 1-A hierarchy is downgraded to 1-A+.

Do you see any problems here?
@VeryGoofyToddler2 @Udlmaster @Qawsedf234 @Antvasima @Firestorm808 @DarkDragonMedeus
 
I agree. In that case, it would be best to consider this content revision as High 1-A for now. I can open another CRT regarding the High 1-A+ topic soon, but for now, it seems better for High 1-A to be accepted. (At least, instead of explaining everything from the beginning again, we could just discuss the High 1-A+ topic.) In conclusion:
  • Short-Time Levels: High 1-B+ (The 1-A+ status has not been accepted yet.)
  • Long-Time Levels: 1-A+ (Because it is a hierarchy that exists in the End World, governed by an entirely separate algorithm.)
  • Beam Guardians: High 1-A (Because they are beings that hold everything within their minds.)
  • Macroverse Entities: High 1-A (An extra layer)
Since @Qawsedf234 does not consider it appropriate for High 1-A to have infinite layers, all 1-A+ beings are downgraded to High 1-B+, and the entire infinitely-layered High 1-A hierarchy is downgraded to 1-A+.

Do you see any problems here?
@VeryGoofyToddler2 @Udlmaster @Qawsedf234 @Antvasima @Firestorm808 @DarkDragonMedeus
Is High 1-B+ indicative of a quantative hierarchy? I remember the section about the universes but I think that max cap out at High 1-B since I don't think there's an uncountable(or higher) statement.
 
Is High 1-B+ indicative of a quantative hierarchy? I remember the section about the universes but I think that max cap out at High 1-B since I don't think there's an uncountable(or higher) statement.
The qualitative and quantitative status between hierarchies is a topic of debate. If you consider the mirage analogy suitable for 1-A, it would be qualitative, but if you treat this analogy as a weak context, it would be quantitative without additional context, including inaccessible terms and the transcendental states mentioned by Jack. The High 1-B+ situation was proposed by Qawsedf234. This is due to the fact that there are many macrocosmic hierarchies of High 1-B.
 
Is High 1-B+ indicative of a quantative hierarchy? I remember the section about the universes but I think that max cap out at High 1-B since I don't think there's an uncountable(or higher) statement.
Before I forget, the amount of macrocosms is described as "an infinite number of infinities."
 
The qualitative and quantitative status between hierarchies is a topic of debate. If you consider the mirage analogy suitable for 1-A, it would be qualitative, but if you treat this analogy as a weak context, it would be quantitative without additional context, including inaccessible terms and the transcendental states mentioned by Jack. The High 1-B+ situation was proposed by Qawsedf234. This is due to the fact that there are many macrocosmic hierarchies of High 1-B.
What I said during the very beginning was 2-A for the baseline level of existence so if it climbs up in a quantitative manner then structurally it's only High 1-B, there's a need to be a High 1-B place within that hierarchy for what you said to be true but I don't see that nor do I recollect any memories of it during our conversation.
 
Is there a scan?
The entire universe is compared to a single blade of grass. It is then implied that burning this blade is equivalent to burning an infinite number of infinities.
Might you look through and discover our entire universe is but of one atom on a blade of grass? Might you be forced to think that by burning a twig you incinerate an eternity of eternities? That existence rises not to one infinite but to an infinity of them? —Dark Tower I: The Gunslinger
 
The entire universe is compared to a single blade of grass. It is then implied that burning this blade is equivalent to burning an infinite number of infinities.
We've discussed this already as I recall saying it was 2-A. Though, I guess rereading it may be Low 1-C since it is an uncountable infinity above a Low 2-C structure. Unless the Universe in question is more than a 4-dimensional space.
 
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