All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

[Nullflowerblush]

The Japanese word for "Power Level" is 戦闘力 (Sentō Ryoku). The word used here is 強度 (kyōdo, "strength" or "intensity"), which is more closely connected to 引張強度 (hipparikyōdo, "tensile strength") than 力 (chikara or ryoku as an affix, "strength").

EDIT: To clarify, the word 強度 is a compound of the noun 強 (kyō), meaning "strength" or "potency", and 度 (-do), referring to a degree in scale; i.e., literally translated, the word refers to a measure of strength or potency. In this context, the word is a measurement of the body's performance, rather than comprehensive power (e.g., Ki, Battle Power, etc.).

 

[StarShooter80]

my fate is in your hands, it can either be for days, or weeks, or months, or permanent

Brother you can just leave yourself this isn’t court

 

[Banjo77]

Listen, in which episode does Goku shout that with a Senzu Beam he could take care of Zamasu Iz?

 

[StarShooter80]

Listen, in which episode does Goku shout that with a Senzu Beam he could take care of Zamasu Iz?

Episode 67

 

[Hasty12345]

I see you changed your pfp again Hasty. Are you trying to mimic the ruffister himself now

He copied me

 

[Huesito88]

He copied me

Asking the guy (aka me) that has kept track of your pfp changes since your Scorpion Mu days

 

[Hasty12345]

Asking the guy (aka me) that has kept track of your pfp changes since your Scorpion Mu days

No I am gaslighting

 

[SwordLegendz01]

Goku's Ultra Instinct Unreal

Stated by Gohan and Piccolo, Goku not just fast they can't even sense him moving to attack at all and when he dodges that implies they can tell when someone is about to attack. Even Vegeta says he saw it with his own eyes, yet his actions feel surreal. Looking into DBS: Super Hero, Vegeta has...

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[XXBenShapiroXx]

If I had a nickel for everytime a Brazilian who likes Sonic and downplays Dragon Ball made a downgrade CRT with atrocious arguements, I'd have a lot of nickels quite frankly but after today I have one more lol

 

[StarShooter80]

If I had a nickel for everytime a Brazilian who likes Sonic and downplays Dragon Ball made a downgrade CRT with atrocious arguements, I'd have a lot of nickels quite frankly but after today I have one more lol

Who's the other one?

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

Who's the other one?

Bruh

 

[Nullflowerblush]

I think Piccolo should have "Super Namekian" in his Classification from the Cell Saga and onward, and I'm going to be making a CRT to propose the idea.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

I also do not believe Frieza should scale to the destruction of Planet Vegeta. Neither expanded interpretation of the events suggest Frieza's energy is what ultimately destroyed the planet; in the light novel, Planet Vegeta's core is destroyed by Frieza's Supernova, and then the planet breaks down and explodes by itself; and in the junior novel, Planet Vegeta is engulfed by Frieza's Supernova, erasing the entirety of the planet, rather than even being scattered across space by an explosion. But I'll be saving that for when I finish up my scaling chain and when my calculations are finally evaluated.

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

Lmfao core busting in 2025 is genuinely funny

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

If I had a nickel for everytime a Brazilian who likes Sonic and downplays Dragon Ball made a downgrade CRT with atrocious arguements, I'd have a lot of nickels quite frankly but after today I have one more lol

Alexander is not Brazilian, he is Colombian, that's what he said, the only Brazilian who likes Sonic and downgrades is Omega, do i accept?

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I also do not believe Frieza should scale to the destruction of Planet Vegeta. Neither expanded interpretation of the events suggest Frieza's energy is what ultimately destroyed the planet; in the light novel, Planet Vegeta's core is destroyed by Frieza's Supernova, and then the planet breaks down and explodes by itself; and in the junior novel, Planet Vegeta is engulfed by Frieza's Supernova, erasing the entirety of the planet, rather than even being scattered across space by an explosion. But I'll be saving that for when I finish up my scaling chain and when my calculations are finally evaluated.

 

[Emerald]

I also do not believe Frieza should scale to the destruction of Planet Vegeta. Neither expanded interpretation of the events suggest Frieza's energy is what ultimately destroyed the planet; in the light novel, Planet Vegeta's core is destroyed by Frieza's Supernova, and then the planet breaks down and explodes by itself; and in the junior novel, Planet Vegeta is engulfed by Frieza's Supernova, erasing the entirety of the planet, rather than even being scattered across space by an explosion. But I'll be saving that for when I finish up my scaling chain and when my calculations are finally evaluated.

Dragon Ball Z: Planet Vegeta Destruction Potential Downgrade

Sorry in advance. I wanted this to be a Q&A but So I was digging through a bunch of sources trying to do research on the destruction of Planet Vegeta since the feat just got revised, and I was checking its validity until I came across something weird. So in the calc we have, it calculates the...

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[XXBenShapiroXx]

Alexander is not Brazilian, he is Colombian, that's what he said, the only Brazilian who likes Sonic and downgrades is Omega, do i accept?

He is vaguely south american, he still counts

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

Dragon Ball Z: Planet Vegeta Destruction Potential Downgrade

Sorry in advance. I wanted this to be a Q&A but So I was digging through a bunch of sources trying to do research on the destruction of Planet Vegeta since the feat just got revised, and I was checking its validity until I came across something weird. So in the calc we have, it calculates the...

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No wait I actually wanna see this so when it gets slapped it down we can make a discussion rule

 

[TiltedFN]

I also do not believe Frieza should scale to the destruction of Planet Vegeta. Neither expanded interpretation of the events suggest Frieza's energy is what ultimately destroyed the planet; in the light novel, Planet Vegeta's core is destroyed by Frieza's Supernova, and then the planet breaks down and explodes by itself; and in the junior novel, Planet Vegeta is engulfed by Frieza's Supernova, erasing the entirety of the planet, rather than even being scattered across space by an explosion. But I'll be saving that for when I finish up my scaling chain and when my calculations are finally evaluated.

You genuinely surprise me null, if you truly think that the planet exploding that violently was not caused by frieza. Funny how this got debunked on a thread a while ago. Frieza watched from atop his spaceship as Planet Vegeta was annihilated by the energy blast he had unleashed. This is literally put in the same scan you're trying to use to debunk frieza somehow not scaling to it lmao. Please just stop cooking, for all of our sakes, the planet losing its shape because of the core doesn't mean that it wasn't ultimately frieza who caused it to violently explode and have its mass expelled outwards, that doesn't happen with just the core being destroyed. I mean, it literally tells us that it is frieza. The attack has to overcome the planets GBE. Look at rof, frieza's energy is what caused the planet to literally explode so violently it looked like a supernova. Please stop with these bullshit arguments and repeated topics, its tiring, just focus on your scaling chains.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

He is vaguely south american, he still counts

It makes sense

 

[Nullflowerblush]

The attack has to overcome the planets GBE.

Duh. You read the second link, right?

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Hm. A page split post-Kami Fusion might be pretty cool.

 

[Spinoirr]

I'm not sure if we treat all charged Dragon Ball attacks as at least 2 times stronger

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

I also do not believe Frieza should scale to the destruction of Planet Vegeta. Neither expanded interpretation of the events suggest Frieza's energy is what ultimately destroyed the planet; in the light novel, Planet Vegeta's core is destroyed by Frieza's Supernova, and then the planet breaks down and explodes by itself; and in the junior novel, Planet Vegeta is engulfed by Frieza's Supernova, erasing the entirety of the planet, rather than even being scattered across space by an explosion. But I'll be saving that for when I finish up my scaling chain and when my calculations are finally evaluated.

Another step closer to 5-C regular humans, you love to see it.

 

[Infinite9Luck]

I find funny that in this wiki DBZ characters are rated at Infinite speed while DBS one at MTFL+ speed.

 

[Huesito88]

I find funny that in this wiki DBZ characters are rated at Infinite speed while DBS one at MTFL+ speed.

What a infinite size cosmology can do to a verse

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I find funny that in this wiki DBZ characters are rated at Infinite speed while DBS one at MTFL+ speed.

The only way to achieve infinite speed is through teleportation or an infinite universe.

 

[StekFence]

Yeah basically

 

[StarShooter80]

The only way to achieve infinite speed is through teleportation or an infinite universe.

Except teleportation has nothing to do with speed

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Except teleportation has nothing to do with speed

Well, we give ourselves immeasurable speed for teleportation, before there was Dante from DMC who achieved it through from that (he reacted to teleportation)

But due to a translation error it was downgraded.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Well, we give ourselves immeasurable speed for teleportation, before there was Dante from DMC who achieved it through from that (he reacted to teleportation)

But due to a translation error it was downgraded.

This is incorrect. He scaled to a character stated in a flowery way to bypass space and time. This was the translation that was incorrect, and instead it referred to its ability to teleport.

Immeasurable can never be achieved through teleportation*

Edit: *unless there's an extremely specific verse shenanigan in place where a character outpaces a teleportation attempt that simulates similar conditions to immeasurable speed (like teleporting into a higher temporal dimension which lets the character achieve immeasurable-like feats of bypassing linear time... Yes, this feat exists, its Flash's trans-time feat)

 

[Banjo77]

Hey, what if we scale Piccolo Orange to the original Kami-sama? From what we know, it was simply what Guru from Namek does, but on steroids. Piccolo shouldn't be Super, just the original Kami-sama, and his prime.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Lmfao core busting in 2025 is genuinely funny

It's actually diabolical. Might as well bring back Roshi Moon outlier too.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

original Kami-sama

The original Nameless Namekian is, at worst, stronger than Vegeta and, at best, as strong as Android 17.

From what we know, it was simply what Guru from Namek does

Yes, and the current Nameless Namekian is a separate entity from the original with completely different potential.

 

[Banjo77]

Piccolo assimilated an already old and weak kami admitted by the same kami so we do not know if he is actually what the original Namekian was in his prime or if Piccolo is.

The original Nameless Namekian is, at worst, stronger than Vegeta and, at best, as strong as Android 17.

Yes, and the current Nameless Namekian is a separate entity from the original with completely different potential.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Toei DBZ Upgrades (High Universal for Movies 7 and 8)

Super Android 13 Movie Translations Left side: "Infinite Power Super Warriors!! Introducing all characters!" Bottom: "Son Goku, the strongest man in the entire galaxy! And three artificial humans who relentlessly aim for his life!! Let's tell only you about all of the strongest warriors who...

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[AmonInChains]

Someone can tell me what THE HELL is that powered up form???

Frieza (Toei)

Frieza (フリーザ, Furīza?) is the leader of the Frieza Force and the son of King Cold and the younger brother of Cooler, who, unopposed, ruled the Universe for decades. Thanks to his mutant and hybrid status, Frieza was born with an abnormally high-power level. He never needed to train a day in his...

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[LuffyRuffy46307]

Someone can tell me what THE HELL is that powered up form???

Frieza (Toei)

Frieza (フリーザ, Furīza?) is the leader of the Frieza Force and the son of King Cold and the younger brother of Cooler, who, unopposed, ruled the Universe for decades. Thanks to his mutant and hybrid status, Frieza was born with an abnormally high-power level. He never needed to train a day in his...

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Rocker Freeza

 

[Nierre]

bro I'm dying LMFAOO
what is that

Someone can tell me what THE HELL is that powered up form???

Frieza (Toei)

Frieza (フリーザ, Furīza?) is the leader of the Frieza Force and the son of King Cold and the younger brother of Cooler, who, unopposed, ruled the Universe for decades. Thanks to his mutant and hybrid status, Frieza was born with an abnormally high-power level. He never needed to train a day in his...

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